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[john]

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Goodfellas wasn't good and it was dirty and kids ran the place. It was like eating spaghetti at home for three xs and Express Gourmet wasn't gourmet and was really a hamburger/sandwich place at best. The food is lacking at all of these places. Lots of places have bad locations but still stay open-Mr. Pickles, Emperor's Garden, Chilis, Mel's , Dos Coyotes, etc. It's the food. Most people I know would love to get off work and go through a healthy drive-thru. Think lean meat, an organic veggie, rice and organic fruit cup. Trust me if it was fast, clean and even moderately priced I think people would pay for it. Also, family dinners would do well, Fajitas tacos for four with the fixins organic meat and beans, etc.

I disagree, I was a frequent patron of Goodfellas and Express Gourmet. Not sure about Emperors Garden but all the others are chains. Chains you can't compare because they simply have different operating costs. It's easy to get better prices when you are buying for 300 restaurants.

[asbestoshills]

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Word girlie word. That was one bizarre comparison. Chilis is bad bar food period, blech!.

Goodfellas was great, I still miss them!
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OKAY OKAY, I didn't mean CCFACTORY OR CHILI's is good food, but it WiLL DO AND DOES do well in Folsom. People here love chain food and u can tell b/c all of the chains are still open. I KNOW CCF AND CHILI's are the most sodium enriched processed foods u can get. MY POINT was that they well do well here and location has no effect on attendance! GET OFF MY back and try to infer okay. If u read my previous posts u can see what I was trying to say. Just get over yourselves and quit trying to slam me all of the time. Especially that jerk off Dude-get a life.
AND for the people that loved Goodfella's so much, you must like the owner but the food sucked. YOU say that was a bad location-across the street from the thousands that work at INTEL and a high school and Prairie OAKS, get real, it wasn't the location!

[cw68]

OKAY OKAY, I didn't mean CCFACTORY OR CHILI's is good food, but it WiLL DO AND DOES do well in Folsom. People here love chain food and u can tell b/c all of the chains are still open. I KNOW CCF AND CHILI's are the most sodium enriched processed foods u can get. MY POINT was that they well do well here and location has no effect on attendance! GET OFF MY back and try to infer okay. If u read my previous posts u can see what I was trying to say. Just get over yourselves and quit trying to slam me all of the time. Especially that jerk off Dude-get a life.
AND for the people that loved Goodfella's so much, you must like the owner but the food sucked. YOU say that was a bad location-across the street from the thousands that work at INTEL and a high school and Prairie OAKS, get real, it wasn't the location!
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Omg, like get off everyone else's back, like okay?

I know Italian food, I grew up in an Italian neighborhood in Chicago. The food wasn't the problem. The location wasn't the problem. The overhead costs combined with the economy and Folsom's love affair with chains and subdivisions (things safely consistently mediocre) was the problem. Understand now?

[Robert Giacometti]

These food topics are better than the politics section!

Can somebody explain to me, why anyone would think they have the right to determine what someone else SHOULD like as far as food goes? I can't believe there are people out there who think they know better than someoen else ewhat that person should like or places they should prefer.

I think this is the most arrogant and pompous example of thinking I've ever witnessed! If Joe likes the food at BJ's and Sam hates it, can't they BOTH be right because its their own tastes?

One would think that adults, who think as themselevs as being open minded and tolerant of others would at a minimum, allow others the right to choose what food they like or dislike!

[GoodFellas]

These food topics are better than the politics section!

Can somebody explain to me, why anyone would think they have the right to determine what someone else SHOULD like as far as food goes? I can't believe there are people out there who think they know better than someoen else ewhat that person should like or places they should prefer.

I think this is the most arrogant and pompous example of thinking I've ever witnessed! If Joe likes the food at BJ's and Sam hates it, can't they BOTH be right because its their own tastes?

One would think that adults, who think as themselevs as being open minded and tolerant of others would at a minimum, allow others the right to choose what food they like or dislike!

Amen!

[momof1]

Goodfellas wasn't good and it was dirty and kids ran the place. It was like eating spaghetti at home for three xs and Express Gourmet wasn't gourmet and was really a hamburger/sandwich place at best. The food is lacking at all of these places. Lots of places have bad locations but still stay open-Mr. Pickles, Emperor's Garden, Chilis, Mel's , Dos Coyotes, etc. It's the food. Most people I know would love to get off work and go through a healthy drive-thru. Think lean meat, an organic veggie, rice and organic fruit cup. Trust me if it was fast, clean and even moderately priced I think people would pay for it. Also, family dinners would do well, Fajitas tacos for four with the fixins organic meat and beans, etc.

You're right, Goodfellas wasn't good, it was GREAT!!!!

[chris v]

You know what the real problem is. Fat, lazy, stupid Americans want an easy fix. Let's go to the drive thru and get some $hit in a wrapper. Does anyone remember when going out to eat was for a special occasion or once every couple weeks? Most people these days think eating out is the way it's supposed to be.

[cw68]

You know what the real problem is. Fat, lazy, stupid Americans want an easy fix. Let's go to the drive thru and get some $hit in a wrapper. Does anyone remember when going out to eat was for a special occasion or once every couple weeks? Most people these days think eating out is the way it's supposed to be.

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[asbestoshills]

True, to each his own, but the fact is Americans are fat and they got that way b/c of fast food and chain restaurants. Also, if you want a shocker, chain restaurants such as Chili's and CCF have more sodium than Mc Donald's on many items. So to make things crystal clear, it doesn't matter about location for Folsom peeps generally speaking, they keep the chains alive. They crave the sugar, salt and like the consistency of it. Now, for the mom and pops out there, the food has to be good and the place has to be consistent with servers and cleanliness etc. before it will be successful. Look at the Taqueria, (I personally don't like it) but it is very successful for the same reasons the chains are successful.

Folsom people who aren't 200 plus pounds would love a La Bou typer dinner joint that offered organic veggies instead of fries and a low sodium tasty meal. However, it has to be done right. It can't be just wraps and salads. Think asian/indian influences with lots of spices and hold the oil.

BTW, no harm to Goodfellas, but honestly if you think your location was the only issue, please re open somewhere else b/c it seems everyone on this board seem to think your food was impressive. I totally disagree, b/c you have a captive audience from Intel, your off the freeway, your location was in a new shopping center and your next to several neighborhoods and UC Davis medical bldgs. To me, it's the food and the atmosphere that doomed your place. It was too fast food, but not done correctly. For example, I remember the salad was like the one you would make at home, nothing special. I don't want to bash your former restaurant, but trust me, you didn't close just b/c location. Dos has stayed in business b/c the food is good and their location isn't the best. The salads use quality ingredients and the portions are good value. The atmosphere is kinda loud, but it makes up for the fast service and food. Location is important, but it's not the only driver of success in this biz.

[Harold]

Amen to that my brother from another mother!
Just look at the line of cars in the Starbucks drive thru every morning as an example...

we are becoming a serve me now and throw away society. $5 in coffee grounds gets me far more than a single cup of coffee at work and at home, sure, I have to put forth the effort to make it myself. But the norm for many is pay someone else to make it for them in a cheap cup, that they can throw away when they're done, instead of making it for yourself and serving it in a mug you have to wash afterwards.

[4thgenFolsomite]

its all about convenience. we work like crazy, rush from one scheduled event to another, and then have little time to prepare things at home. or at least we think we don't have time. I do make my drip coffee, quite good, at home in the morning, because its actually faster for me than going through Starbucks and paying 1000% more than home-made, but there are times after work when I'm just too tired to go by the grocery store and then go home and cook dinner. I just want to pick up something to eat at home and relax. those are nights later in the week, of course, when the left-overs have already been tapped dry.

ah well, modern life.

oh, by the way, wasn't this a thread about Dickey's BBQ?