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[SacKen]

I like Kirkland's too, but also avoid it due to the smell.
I'd like Palladio a lot more if it had the cozy, neighborhoody feel like The Fountains. Palladio seems sterile. The Fountains draws you in & makes you want to hang out. I drive up there nearly every weekend to meet a friend, and that's exactly what we do. Drink Peets, do a little shopping & hang out.

 

I agree about the sterile thing. I've sent emails to Palladio management about things like that. One big complaint was that there's pretty much no seating anywhere. Even at the little park with the fountain or around the other fountain near the frozen yogurt place. It's as if they purposefully designed it for you to pass through, shop and get out, and not loiter while eating some gelato after dinner, which is what we often do at Fountains.

 

I understand wanting high shopper turnover, but I don't think that type of shopper is the target for a "lifestyle center". You need to make people want to come here and hang out to catch that moment when they remember the birthday coming up that they forgot about and might as well shop for while they are here. Or see something interesting in the window of a shop they would never have thought to visit just because they stopped to sit on the bench for a few minutes and just happened to be facing that window. Retail 101: attract them and don't let them go until you've exhausted all opportunities to liberate their dollars from them.

[caligirlz]

Did you get any response from Palladio management? 

 

I hope the E Bidwell Streets Corridor Plan doesn't turn out to be a dud too. 

[SacKen]

Did you get any response from Palladio management? 

 

I hope the E Bidwell Streets Corridor Plan doesn't turn out to be a dud too. 

 

Yep. An underwhelming "no plans to add any seating" and a mention that a couple restaurants have put seating outside.

[nomad]

 

Yep. An underwhelming "no plans to add any seating" and a mention that a couple restaurants have put seating outside.

 

Just the other day i saw a guy get into his car and I waited and waited behind him to back out but he never did. I'm guessing he just wanted a place to sit down as decided to do it in his car!

[ericm2031]

I'm not sure why Palladio is so adamantly against adding more seating. Like someone mentioned before, the Fountains has seating everywhere and encourages people to hang around a while. The Galleria has couch areas throughout the mall and spent a fortune on the kids area outside with the lounge chairs and more seating. When the Galleria built the expansion, they actually purposefully built more than the required parking requirement because they did research and found out that people were spending much more time at the Galleria than the national average...those parking garages added tens of millions of dollars to the cost but they knew it was needed even though just adding more stores doesn't necessarily it'll bring in that many more customers. If Palladio doesn't put in more seating and encourage people to stay longer, you're just going to have people pull up, run into the one place they need to go, and leave. That's not much of a community gathering place and people will continue to drive to Roseville.

 

It's amazing walking around the Fountains and you have people sitting around drinking coffee and enjoying the weather and music. They got benches surrounding the Fountain and there are ALWAYS people sitting down enjoying it. 

 

You have the Fountains finalizing it's plans for phase 2 and the Galleria just picked up Build-a-Bear Workshop and Lululemon. I know they have a huge distance between Folsom and Roseville, but they need to pay attention to what their customers and the community wants if they want to succeed. Inwardly facing outdoor retail like Fountains and Palladio can easily become ghost towns if they don't do it right.

[Barb J]

In addition to seating I wish they would put in some play areas for kids. I drive to Roseville to let my son play, we get lunch and do some shopping. Would love to stay in town to do this! I thinknitvwould draw a lot of stay at home moms during the weekdays, which seems to be a particularly slow time judging on the lack of cars I've seen at the Palladio. But if they are against seating I doubt they will put in a play area!

[TruthSeeker]

Palladio is mainly for the uppity wealthy people up the hill, it's not for Folsom families and hanging out.

[ducky]

Palladio is mainly for the uppity wealthy people up the hill, it's not for Folsom families and hanging out.

 

Then who is El Dorado Hills Town Center for?

 

I agree there should be seating.  So far I've only parked in front of the places I plan to go and don't shop around.   The only clothing place that really interests me is Sports Authority.

[Homer]

Palladio is mainly for the uppity wealthy people up the hill, it's not for Folsom families and hanging out.

 

 

I'm sure all those "uppity wealthy people" go to the Pallado to buy their jewelry from Charming Charlies and to eat at Johnny Rockets.

[TruthSeeker]

Then who is El Dorado Hills Town Center for?

For the high maintenance women up there.
 

I'm sure all those "uppity wealthy people" go to the Pallado to buy their jewelry from Charming Charlies and to eat at Johnny Rockets.

Are those the only 2 places you've been to there so far?

[SacKen]

In addition to seating I wish they would put in some play areas for kids. I drive to Roseville to let my son play, we get lunch and do some shopping. Would love to stay in town to do this! I thinknitvwould draw a lot of stay at home moms during the weekdays, which seems to be a particularly slow time judging on the lack of cars I've seen at the Palladio. But if they are against seating I doubt they will put in a play area!

 

I noticed last week that they put in a couple benches near the central fountain. Not as many as should be there, but there's 3 or 4 there now. It's a start!

 

Considering how low the Palladio occupancy is (a lot more empty shops than filled ones, still), it actually gets pretty busy starting around lunch and on into the evening. There's just not enough shopping options yet. But that's typically what you want/see early on in a slow build-out like this. Get the anchors that draw people in daily, as the restaurants do, then you have numbers to convince others to open shops that may not have the pull on their own to get people to go there.

[ktsb]

As one of the "uppidity" "high maintenance" people from up the hill and as I've said before I have no use for Palladio.  Town Center doesn't thrill me much either.  Also us uppidity, high maintenance people spend a lot of time dining and shopping in Folsom paying tax along the way.  Pretty sure all the merchants making the decision to enter the Folsom market consider EDH a big part of the market.

 

Uppidity high maintenance people like to sit and hang out with their families too.

[SacKen]

Palladio is mainly for the uppity wealthy people up the hill, it's not for Folsom families and hanging out.

 

 

For the high maintenance women up there.
 

Are those the only 2 places you've been to there so far?

 

Please take your asshatery elsewhere and let the grown-ups talk. Maybe go somewhere that you can learn some real truth and not whatever this ignorant nonsense is.

[Deanna H]

that's the plan, but I've seen no evidence of it yet. I heard about the Easter time frame too....

It's (See's) definitely being modified. Subcontractor bids are due 6/5/13, so I would think the work would start sometime in June.

[4thgenFolsomite]

It's (See's) definitely being modified. Subcontractor bids are due 6/5/13, so I would think the work would start sometime in June.

GREAT news!