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[Steve Heard]

I could see it now, big lights, big signs, big campaign office... Stevethedad for Mayor.

I am looking forward to getting chewed out in person on Nov 5th for all my posts here 

I come in peace.

[anonymous]

Help Stop a Porn Shop in Folsom! - Please Forward

If you've ever been to Sutter Street, in Old Town Folsom, you've probably enjoyed the nostalgia of California's gold rush days. You've probably also appreciated the down-to-earth family values of Folsom. Sutter Street is the type of place that families like to take their children for an outing. It's a street lined with dollhouses and ice cream shops.

Well, pretty soon the ambiance of Sutter Street is going to change – unless the citizens of Folsom rally to make a difference. An adult shop is opening, smack dab in the middle of Sutter Street, called "Ms. Teaz." The owners of Ms. Teaz would like you to think that it's simply an "upscale lingerie shop." This is not the case, however. The owners of Ms. Teaz plan to sell a wide array of adult paraphernalia, including pornographic books and videos. The shop wants to stay open until 1 a.m.

Concerned citizens and business owners are starting to come out and express their opposition to a porn shop moving into family-friendly Folsom. Will you join them? Folsom needs your help! If you either live or shop in Folsom, it's important for you to let your voice be heard. There is an initial City Council meeting tomorrow night. If you are able to make it, your attendance will make a difference.

What: Folsom City Council Meeting on Porn Shop
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2004
Time: 6:30 PM
Location: Folsom City Hall, 50 Natoma Street, Folsom, California

When an adult business moves into a community, there's a host of other things that move in with it. Adult businesses bring a completely different type of crowd to a town. Incidences of loitering and indecent exposure, for instance, are known to drastically rise when these types of businesses move in. Aside from these practical considerations, children should simply not be exposed to these types of shops. Period. Even if certain paraphernalia is kept in a back room, behind a curtain, these items will still be brought out to purchase.

The message we want to convey to the Folsom City Council is this: "We're not so concerned with what people do in their bedroom, but we are concerned with what they do on Sutter Street."

If you live in Folsom, or shop in Folsom, please take a moment to visit this Web site recently constructed to combat the Ms. Teaz shop: www.folsomfamilyvalues.org.

Updates and more information will be placed on this Web site within a few weeks. So please check back with us! We hope to put printable flyers on this Web site and post a petition for people to sign and circulate asking the City Council to change their ordinance allowing for this type of adult shop.

Capitol Resource Institute is working closely with members of the Folsom Chamber of Commerce to help keep Ms. Teaz, or any other business establishment like it, from coming to Folsom. Thank you for your help! Voter Information
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[Steve Heard]

Help Stop a Porn Shop in Folsom! - Please Forward

If you've ever been to Sutter Street, in Old Town Folsom, you've probably enjoyed the nostalgia of California's gold rush days. You've probably also appreciated the down-to-earth family values of Folsom. Sutter Street is the type of place that families like to take their children for an outing. It's a street lined with dollhouses and ice cream shops.

Well, pretty soon the ambiance of Sutter Street is going to change – unless the citizens of Folsom rally to make a difference. An adult shop is opening, smack dab in the middle of Sutter Street, called "Ms. Teaz." The owners of Ms. Teaz would like you to think that it's simply an "upscale lingerie shop." This is not the case, however. The owners of Ms. Teaz plan to sell a wide array of adult paraphernalia, including pornographic books and videos. The shop wants to stay open until 1 a.m.

Concerned citizens and business owners are starting to come out and express their opposition to a porn shop moving into family-friendly Folsom. Will you join them? Folsom needs your help! If you either live or shop in Folsom, it's important for you to let your voice be heard. There is an initial City Council meeting tomorrow night. If you are able to make it, your attendance will make a difference.

What: Folsom City Council Meeting on Porn Shop
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2004
Time: 6:30 PM
Location: Folsom City Hall, 50 Natoma Street, Folsom, California

When an adult business moves into a community, there's a host of other things that move in with it. Adult businesses bring a completely different type of crowd to a town. Incidences of loitering and indecent exposure, for instance, are known to drastically rise when these types of businesses move in. Aside from these practical considerations, children should simply not be exposed to these types of shops. Period. Even if certain paraphernalia is kept in a back room, behind a curtain, these items will still be brought out to purchase.

The message we want to convey to the Folsom City Council is this: "We're not so concerned with what people do in their bedroom, but we are concerned with what they do on Sutter Street."

If you live in Folsom, or shop in Folsom, please take a moment to visit this Web site recently constructed to combat the Ms. Teaz shop: www.folsomfamilyvalues.org.

Updates and more information will be placed on this Web site within a few weeks. So please check back with us! We hope to put printable flyers on this Web site and post a petition for people to sign and circulate asking the City Council to change their ordinance allowing for this type of adult shop.

Capitol Resource Institute is working closely with members of the Folsom Chamber of Commerce to help keep Ms. Teaz, or any other business establishment like it, from coming to Folsom. Thank you for your help! Voter Information
Visit our online Voter Information page for important information about the coming elections.
Make a Donation
We rely on your financial support to continue our work. Please help us by making a donation today.
Capitol Resource Institute 1414 K Street Suite 200 Sacramento, CA 95814
  http://www.capitolresource.org

Hello Anonymous

Thanks for your concern here. I can tell you that most of the citizens of Folsom do indeed support family values. I know I do. I think this is just a big misunderstanding. Ms. Teaz is not a porn shop. It is a high-end lingerie shop that will indeed sell adult items, to adults. There is, however, pornography for sale (or so I am told) at the 2 liquor stores located near Sutter Middle School. I am told that bookstores such as Borders sells material that some may find objectionable as well.

Although I'd love to see more family oriented businesses open on Sutter, and that may happen in the future, there really aren't many. I imagine economics and the lack of foot traffic may be to blame. There is 1 ice cream shop, and a tea party place. It seems the most popular and prosperous businesses on Sutter are bars.

I don't think the family atmosphere of Folsom is threatened by the presence of this shop. I have a wife and 2 beautiful daughters, and if I felt a threat, I'd fight like a tiger to protect them. No, I think this is much ado about nothing. What we have here is 2 hard working people who saved their money and invested in our community.

The kind of people the owners, Mr. and Mrs. Dufour, are trying to attract are upscale shoppers from Folsom and El Dorado Hills. I don't think there'll be much loitering or indecent exposure to worry about. I think you'd be more likely to find that sort of thing in seedy downtown areas of larger cities, or poorer neighborhoods, not here in Folsom. We wouldn't stand for it.

I feel your passion. I am passionate about this community, too. I have a suggestion on how we can work together and really change things. Tonight, right next door to the City Council meeting, we'll be holding something I really think you'll be interested in; the Folsom Healthy Families Forum. The Forum will address a much greater threat to our families, an issue that affects far more people than the lingerie shop, and that is the rampant drug and alcohol abuse by Folsom kids.

Hosted by News10's Cristina Mendonsa, the Forum will feature presentations by Folsom police, drug counselors, people in recovery, and a panel discussion with questions from the audience. We hope to raise awareness of the problem, provide information on recognition, and offer practical suggestions for prevention, and solutions for treatment, if it's already happening in your family.

I am excited about this opportunity. We've had several Forums over the last year or so, and some were poorly attended, despite our efforts to publicize and to get people out there. We expect great results this year, and hope that you and your group will join us in addressing this very serious issue.

No amount of sexual paraphernalia can affect a kid like a drug overdose. Please join us tonight at the Folsom Healthy Families Forum, 7 to 9pm at the Folsom Community Center.

Please encourage your members to attend.

Steve Heard

PS. I have no stake in the lingerie shop, but I do believe this store should be given a chance to operate and see if in fact they do help revitalize an area that has been dying, with more businesses closing all the time. In fact, Jitter's Coffee Shop just closed down, as did the store the lingerie shop is replacing.

[camay2327]

Steve, even though you say it is not a porn shop, once they open it doesn't mean that they cant move the stuff in and they more than likely will. That is their money maker.....

[Steve Heard]

Cal

Porn is already available at the liquor stores, and although I am sure it makes money, or the liquor store wouldn't sell them. The lingerie shop owner's are going after big ticket items. What does a porno mag or tape cost $5? $10?

Instead, this place intends to make more money selling $300 custom made corsets.

By the way, the books are aimed at couples, to enhance their relationships. One of them is entitled, "How to have a great sex life while raising your kids".

How many people would object to that?

[tessieca]

It seems the most popular and prosperous businesses on Sutter are bars.

Now you're spinning. The most popular and prosperous businesses on Sutter Street are actually restaurants, some of which I like very much, including Yagers which has a kids menu and contributes to my kids' UPromise accounts.

Cal is 100% correct. Obviously, the back room items are the money-makers or the DuFours would be backing off and just doing the lingerie. Their main sell, then, is the porn stuff.

Some of you keep insisting these items are not porn. We are all familiar with the quote about the definition of pornography "I'll know it when I see it." Thus, while pornography has tended to describe written materials, it's a common usage to describe other things as "pornographic." Definition: material that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement. So while magazines at liquor stores or erotic books at Borders are not suitable for children, certainly that doesn't justify placing dildos on Sutter Street. It's not really logical to say that just because porn is already sold in town, it makes it okay to add more.

[cybertrano]

yes tessie. this is my main point. why add more questionable shops, products, business to Folsom because we already had some here.

thanks tessie

So while magazines at liquor stores or erotic books at Borders are not suitable for children, certainly that doesn't justify placing dildos on Sutter Street.  It's not really logical to say that just because porn is already sold in town, it makes it okay to add more.

[camay2327]

If they need this store, then why don't they set it up on some strip mall, out away from the main stream. Keep it out of Old Town.

Yes, I will be at the meeting tonight and I suggest anyone that wants to say something about this be there too. Talking here is fine, but go to the meeting and talk in front of the city council and the TV cameras. It is filmed and shown locally.

Be there or don't complain one way or the other...

[bordercolliefan]

For many who oppose the X-rated portion of this store, it's not an issue about what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms. I personally don't care if couples want to use sex toys or novelties to enhance their intimacy (as long as we are talking about consenting adults and no one is hurting anyone else, physically or emotionally).

This is an issue of what belongs in a main shopping area of our community. A sex-oriented shop sets the stage for other kinds of seedy, low-end businesses such as massage parlors, topless bars, tatoo parlors, a porn-oriented video store, etc. This is not the identity we want our town to have. To enhance our own quality of life and property values and to increase tourism, we should be going for upscale shops, not sleaze.

It is also an issue of what you want your families and children to encounter when they walk down Sutter St. I personally don't want to have to field the "What's that?" and "Why can't we go in there?" and "What's that man buying?" questions from my little girls.

Even if we think people should have access to something, we don't have to have it on Sutter St. -- just like we would not want a car repair shop or dog kennel on Sutter Street. For people who want that stuff... they can get it off the internet or from some town that's not as nice and family-oriented as Folsom.

[cybertrano]

very good bcfan!!!! 2 for you

.... which was my very very first post "what next" .

from some town that's not as nice and family-oriented as Folsom.

[pampChefLady]

I'm sorry that I can't attend due to class at Sac State tonight... doesn't mean I won't complain though ;-) Anyway, I hope that many others will be there representing the point of view I've shared here...

Do we get the local channel via DISH to be able to view the telecast?

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Be there or don't complain one way or the other...
       

[camay2327]

I don't know if it is on the dish or not, it is on Comcast cable channel 14 on Friday and Saturday at 9:00 AM and at least once in the evening but I don't remember when it is. If I find out I will post it here.

I think that the library normally has a few copies of the meeting a few days after.

[Steve Heard]

I am sure that most of you have your hearts in the right place, but I fear you are misguided. This shop means you no harm. It's not a question of whether we have enough of this stuff already. We don't have ANY of it in Folsom. There is porn for sale, but it's not sold at this store, and won't be.

There is porn being sold near the middle school, but no one seems to care. This is about something else, and I'm not sure what it is.

I haven't had but one or two people tell me they will show up at the Healthy Families Forum. But many are coming out to ban a lingerie and novelty shop.

Where are our priorities? We'd rather risk our kids lives to drugs and alcohol than to have them walk past a lingerie shop that sells adult items in the back.

How many of you have taken the time to go to the shop and find out for yourselves just what is going on their. By the way, a well known pastor did go out there and found a book he might like for himself.

[Orangetj]

Hey Steve,

Just a thought and a little "pop psychology" - perhaps people are more willing to fight and complain about Ms. Teaz because they feel they have the power to impact the outcome, whereas they may feel helpless to deal with the much more serious (IMO) issues of drug and alcohol abuse in our community.

[slowthegrowth]

OR>>>> They feel like they have a much better chance to control drug/alcohol use by their children in their own homes..... while the only way to oppose Ms. Teaz is to do it in person with the rest of the community.