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[melloguy]

QUOTE (tessieca @ Mar 31 2004, 08:40 PM)

It looks like only 33% of your fellow juniors were offered drugs within the past year.  I say "only" because it's less than you suggest, not because it's a small number.

tessieca - likely more than that, the stats quoted by Teresa were for being offered drugs ON A SCHOOL CAMPUS. I also remember students stretching the truth when we took these surveys, but mostly I rememer the ones doing drugs denying it on the survey in case there was a way to track whose survey it was.

I also remember seeing drugs exchanged in school from the time I was in Jr. High. Not involved, but was "cool" enough (i.e., knew the Code - DON'T TELL!) that many felt comfortable around me. Helped to follow the Code because I was never asked. And yes, it did seem to me that the ones most likely involved in sexual activity were the ones doing drugs or drinking.

More later.

[Teresa Stanley]

Good point, Melloguy. Those contacts were only related to the campus, which doesn't mean that kids aren't being offered alcohol and drugs at those parties Junior was talking about.

The self-reporting mechanism has several flaws: some underreporting by the suspicious, some overreporting by the braggadocio's, and some false reporting in an attempt to skew the results. However, this is as close as we're going to be able to get to "real" statistics. It's better than using Junior's 75-80% number because that reflects a certain group of friends. It's better than using statistics given by anyone who "used to be in high school and knows." It's better than using arrest figures or school suspensions and expulsions because we know that lots and lots of kids don't get caught.

[secondwind]

QUOTE (Teresa Stanley @ Apr 1 2004, 11:19 AM)

Good point, Melloguy. Those contacts were only related to the campus, which doesn't mean that kids aren't being offered alcohol and drugs at those parties Junior was talking about.

People-
IT dont matter if it is 25% or 75% - the problem is real and it is known well outside the FHS steps---
If I could come in as a parent with my daughter and find out that it was sooo prevalent back in 1998/99 - it surely has only gotten worse----
I see FolsomJr posting in this forum as another wake up call for help ....

So what are the "good' students , the parents and the HS doing to reduce this situation...


Cheers
Secondwind

[secondwind]

Question-
On the matter of Drinking and Driving ? has FHS had the 'Every 15 minutes" program ? and if so - is it still in place yearly ????
If not why ???
Talk about a sobering assembly of students and parents - writing and speaking of final notes about their kids after a drunken driving death...
Would like to know - as it has had good effects in other HS.

Cheers
Secondwind

[Ahnold]

yes the high school did have it, two years ago I think. They said they would do it again so that the kids that were frosh and soph at the time, who are now qualifying for their licenses, will get a chance to see it. how much effect it really has depends on the individual kid of course. hard for a teen to take in a graphic image, particularly a staged one, and equate it to their own existence. but hopefully a few from each peer group will get the message and help convince their friends.

[melloguy]

To continue -

How much has it really changed since we were in high school? There has always been substance abusers, just the drugs of choice tend to change. When I went to school (early 1980s), it was mostly alcohol (probably still is) with pot, the occasional mention of "KJ" (crystal meth?) and to a lesser degree, coke. Many of the abusers still do.

I do remember that there was a party to go to almost weekly (I probably went to 3-4 my Jr. & Sr. yrs in high school) and it usually happened when someone's parents were out of town, although there were occassions when the parents were drinking along with the kids. Drugs were more readily available at the parties than on campus.

Differences? More money available now, so kids can afford what they want. We had an open campus for lunch, so they probably don't see kids now returning from lunch with glassy eyes. We had a mix of pregnancies and abortions, probably heavier on the abortions now.

Solutions? You're not going to eliminate, but do your best to limit. Closed campus is a good one. Parent and student involvement - the elimination of some extra curricular activities does disturb me in this regard. As I said, parents did and still do allow parties, do our best to report these. we cannot plan on our kids to inform us of all.

[folsomjunior69]

folsomjunior00 speaks the truth, i as well am i folsom high school student and i see drugs and alchohol everywhere. It is almost hard to walk to your next class without hearing someone talk about what they did the night before or how stoned they got over the weekend. I try to stay away from all that jazz but even i have encountered it close up. So as he said just becareful and know what theyre doing that night, GO KINGS

[Sportsmanracer4]

Im sophmore in highschool and I have also noticed the high amounts of drug use too, however I dont attend Folsom Highschool I go to a different school. at my school they bring the drug dogs about 10 times a year randomly (the teachers arent even told when they are coming) and this is very effective in keeping the drugs out of school. I know a few people who smoke pot and they dont dare bring it to school. so maybe that would be a good first step, getting it out of the schools. then we can work from there.

[zach5]

[QUOTE]On the matter of Drinking and Driving ? has FHS had the 'Every 15 minutes" program ? and if so - is it still in place yearly ????
Yes the program so far is still in effect, and does occur every two years, this year being one of those years

[FolsomJunior00]

LOL ZACH LEE!!!!!!

I didnt even know you still went to Folsom High, havent seen ya around

[zach5]

yes i do

[zach5]

Going back to the drug issue, although I do admit that the drug problem is high at FHS i do do to Casa Robles High also and have been on Cordova High campus during the day and I see their drug problem a lot worse than at Folsom High, or that you just see it more.

[parklady]

I think one of the best tests would be to ask your own kids, assuming you have an honest and trusting relationship with them. I for one did when my son was there 2 years ago for his last two years of high school. He told me it was a lot worse than his high school in the bay area. He felt alienated because all the kids ever wanted to do or talk about was getting wasted. (Mostly pot and drinking) His words were "Mom, you just don't know how bad it is." "You can't even get guys interested in throwing a football around at lunchtime." He found the school terribly boring - "no decent clubs to join, no kids who wanted to do anything after school other than drinking and smoking pot and, according to his evaluation, half the kids aren't even interested in going on to college. "

[zach5]

yes, at FHS, when we had to go through accredidation, one of the topics was about how the moral at our school was so low. Many people dont even care enough about the school to even throw their trash away. And about clubs, next year due to budget cuts, most clubs may not be around anymore.

[FolsomJunior00]

Why go to college when you can wasted with your friends at post-Folsom High (aka Sierra Junior College)?


LMAO, Folsom high is a joke