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[mylo]

How much affordable housing is there in ARC?

A good question. Probably not very much. ARC South appears to have more condo's, but I'm not sure many are classified as affordable.

[mylo]

All,

I need info on when, where and what we can do to protest this. It is time to get organized. Please post if you know.

January 17th it goes to the Planning Comission for proposed rezoning.

From there, it will likely go (unapproved) to City Council for final decision.

According to one city council member, it is likely impossible to block this proposed development due to legal obligations. Once a site is picked, there's NIMBY laws that ignore neighbours complaints.

But calling or writing your city council members may be usefull.

[old soldier]

the way they could get around the not in my back yard problem would be make a tent city for the low income folks like that old sheriff did for his jail in arizona. you could have a rule that the tent low income city would stay in one place for a couple of years and then move to another zoned area. that way folks would just have to have tight securtty for awhile and folks who wanted to sell their houses but worried about property values would just have to wait for the tents to move.

soldiers have lived in tents for years and have gone on to better things.

[Robert Giacometti]

January 17th it goes to the Planning Comission for proposed rezoning.

From there, it will likely go (unapproved) to City Council for final decision.

According to one city council member, it is likely impossible to block this proposed development due to legal obligations. Once a site is picked, there's NIMBY laws that ignore neighbours complaints.

But calling or writing your city council members may be usefull.

Mylo,

I'm NOT aware of any law that requires any agency ( City of Folsom) to rezone any property. If the rezone is denied as being inconsistent with the general plan, the applicant would have to find a new site.

Historically, in this community, rezones are usually approved and the general plan is then compromised.

If the property is rezoned and the applicant is proposing something that is permitted under that zoning....it is indeed difficult to deny a permit and rightfully so becasue land owners have rights too!

[mylo]

I believe the proposed rezone is in line with the general plan, but don't quote me on that.

I understand that the rezone will occur, but even if planning is swayed by residents to deny the project, it will likely still proceed.

[Robert Giacometti]

Mylo, there is no legal requirement to grant a rezone. If there was it would be done administratively without requiring a vote of that agency.

If an elected or appointed official reviews the application and decides it is in the best interests of the community and votes to approve the rezone....you may or may not agree with that official...but I feel we should give them respect for accepting responsibility of their position.

When we hear elected or appointed officials say, I'm not supportive of this application....but my hands are tied so I have to support it....that is plain BS. It was that very attitude that put the city in the noncompliance position regarding affordable housing to begin with!

They CAN deny the rezone!

[Redone]

From what I understand, EDH is pretty behind on their legal responsibilities, too.

Folsom just got sued about it, so it's a hot topic here.

Remember EDH is NOT a city and they go into the whole pool called El Dorado Co. on stuff like this.

[booboo]

This goes up in Folsom at such a concentration, what a DUMP that'll make outta the Historic District. Investors will look twice before signing leases and/or purchasing property. Forget investors even...how is this going to encourage families to move to the area?

Seriously, where do you think the occupants of the homeless facility will go hang out? I'll tell you where, the flashy new Sutter street everyone is raving about and the Circle K. Actually Circle K is already a pit stop for 40 year old burn outs with revoked drivers licenses on bicycles, so we can look foreward to that getting worse.

Only a small percentage of the people that will occupy these facilities will make this a truely transitional stepping stone and/or keep themselves in check like the rest of us struggle to do. I've seen it happen in San Jose and up here in downtown Sacramento near the Medic Ambulance office. No matter how nice the building is, the crap majority that don't have it together and/or take advantage will destroy the place within 6 months. Drug activity?...oh, I'm sure not a single person in the whole homeless facility will partake in a lick of that either.

Where to put it? I don't know, but putting both of those facilities in an area that's trying to rise up is NOT a plus.

[Lud.R]

I find this idea to be a wonderful compliment to the revitalization of Sutter street. Only a screwed up town like Folsom can take one step forward and two steps back.

[Chad Vander Veen]

Folsom planning council rejects psychiatric housing project
By Walt Yost - Bee Staff Writer

Last Updated 11:52 am PST Friday, January 19, 2007

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A controversial proposal to build a psychiatric housing complex along the border of Historic Folsom will land in the lap of the City Council, after the planning commission recommended denial of the project.

The council, which has final say on the project, is scheduled to hear the issue at its Feb. 13 meeting.

A packed house turned out for the Tuesday night planning commission meeting, with the vast majority speaking in opposition to a request to rezone a site on Bidwell Street allowing for construction of a 19-unit apartment complex for people with mental illnesses.

During several hours of testimony, residents and business owners said the Historic District already has more than its share of low-income housing.

Backers of the project say the proposed Bidwell Street project isn't a psychiatric facility -- but rather "decent, safe, affordable housing" for people with major depression, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.

There also are plans for a transitional housing program for up to 20 homeless people within five blocks of the proposed psychiatric housing, which has drawn strong neighborhood protest.

[mylo]

Link to article, above: http://www.sacbee.co...ory/110460.html

[Orangetj]

That's great news! Hopefully the Council will agree with the recommendation.

[mylo]

That's great news! Hopefully the Council will agree with the recommendation.

They likely will agree, but approve the project anyway. Broadstone has bigger wallets and voices than the Historic District, so it all goes here.

[Duke]

They likely will agree, but approve the project anyway. Broadstone has bigger wallets and voices than the Historic District, so it all goes here.

It's simply the most appropriate area for the project. That's the bottom line...

[EDF]

Why do you dehumanize people so much to the point that you can't even stand for a lower income person to be living by you? Most of you are in debt over your eyeballs and can barely afford to live here yourself.....By the way, most of the jobs in Folsom are low, working service sector jobs with the exception of the prison and INtel and a few software companies and Kaiser....Who do you think you are that you are so better than someone trying to get decent housing in a nice area??? Would u rather them sleep under a bridge or see mentally ill people not getting the help they need? Many of the mentally ill were in the military before and do we not owe it to the most vulnerable populations to help them? I mean the homeless/mentally ill people should be served if they are from this community....I'm not saying take all of the homeless and mentally ill people from all over, but certainly helping people in our own community seems like a positive.....And on another note, why do you want all of the retail growth like malls and chain restaurants here, if u didn't want low income people to visit here? Most poor people spend more of their disposable income on retail and restaurants than the rich...Where do u think these poor service workers were going to live, in Rancho????

I"m a little late to this thread...

but...

I don't mind one bit saying that I don't want any stinking homeless shelter... now called a "transitional center"... and no Psycho housing either...

You libs out there are responsible for this... We used to have "mental" hospitals in this state but the libs back in the 60's thought they could "mainstream" these schizo's, druggies... or chronic alcoholics, because they didn't harm anybody... so they closed them down... blamed Ronal Reagan but it was their doing....

and now we have the same goo-goo's that want them in the midst of a prosperous city because they think we are "obligated"... which we are not...

put it next to your stinking house and let your kids watch some dude take a leak in the street... because he doesn't know better... or take a drive by this proposed facility and watch the "porch monkeys" sit around like zombies because they are on medication...

Go look at some neighborhoods in Sacramento like 12th street by D, E and F and check out the surrounding areas that are littered with trash and what homes and apartments that are there have lots of "iron bars" on the windows and doors... Just my kind of pretty neighborhood.... ain't it neat that we get to have this in Folsom too... just so cool...

That Circle K on the corner of Natoma and Riley will get even "cheezier" than it is now...

I'm plannning on being at the City Council meeting...

However... I'll bet you a cheap burger lunch there some stinking law that requires we have to do something like this....

Bring back the "Mental Hospitals"....