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[stacycam]

That is EXACTLY what I was trying to say.

haa! Maybe I should PM stacy, and tell her what I MEAN, and let her type it all out for me!
PS Welcome 72o

[ngilbert]

Stacey & John,

Dumm question about the interweb and the bandwidth thing:

If a poster has, either in their signature or in a post itself, an image tag that's bringing in an image from *another* site, are you paying for that bandwidth? In other words, say I had a picture on my own website and I'm using the img command to put it in a post or a signature - am *I* the only one paying for that bandwidth, or are you as well?

Thx

[stacycam]

Stacey & John,

Dumm question about the interweb and the bandwidth thing:

If a poster has, either in their signature or in a post itself, an image tag that's bringing in an image from *another* site, are you paying for that bandwidth? In other words, say I had a picture on my own website and I'm using the img command to put it in a post or a signature - am *I* the only one paying for that bandwidth, or are you as well?

Thx

I hope I'm not the Stacy you are referring to. I'd hate to think I ever gave the impression I know ANYTHING about this stuff.

[john]

72o, welcome... I realize it may seem intimidating to join a forum with so many regulars, but believe me, they all started out with a post count of zero! There are very few of us who have been here since the beginning.

I wish I could put a limit on signatures in my control panel. This issue would work itself out rather easily. ngilbert, you are technically correct that if the image is on your own server or whatever, it's not my bandwidth here... but it's only half the issue here. if you put up some rediculously huge image it would be an issue. The original sig that was in question was taking up practically an entire screen, and the image (the pouty face kid) was a tad disturbing. It's shorter now, and the image is much better. Let's just call it even, I'm tired of bickering over it.

I've had to tell a number of "regulars" around here to remove or change their sig, you are not the only one. Chad and Bish will tell you I've asked them.

For everyone that has defended me, I appreciate it. It's sometimes a thankless job to be an admin.

[72o]

My handle is for my 72 Olds Cutlass.

I am not an old poster, I recently moved to Chico from South Carolina, and have been looking for a new local forum.

Thanks for the welcomes, and I hope that we can continue to have meaningful discussions regardless of our opinions.

As for the signature discussion, if no one else is forced to remove or alter his/her signature, I think dcm is justified in keeping his signature as is. There should either be a fixed limit globally across the board, or none at all. If the bandwidth is a problem, the limitation should nip that in the bud. You could probably fit a few hundred lines of text in the same chunk of data it takes for one image. If you don't like having to scroll, turn off the sigs.

[ngilbert]

ngilbert, you are technically correct that if the image is on your own server or whatever, it's not my bandwidth here... but it's only half the issue here. if you put up some rediculously huge image it would be an issue. The original sig that was in question was taking up practically an entire screen, and the image (the pouty face kid) was a tad disturbing. It's shorter now, and the image is much better. Let's just call it even, I'm tired of bickering over it.

Thanks - yeah - I wasn't talking about the issue of having to scroll through a long signature, or that a long signature increases the page count for one topic (less posts per page). I just wanted to make sure you weren't getting socked with the cost of outside pictures (aside from the ones we post under our own CP here).

Sorry if that was a sidetrack - I'm easily confused by how these newfangled reasoning machines work.

[Bill Z]

My handle is for my 72 Olds Cutlass.

I am not an old poster, I recently moved to Chico from South Carolina, and have been looking for a new local forum.

Thanks for the welcomes, and I hope that we can continue to have meaningful discussions regardless of our opinions.

As for the signature discussion, if no one else is forced to remove or alter his/her signature, I think dcm is justified in keeping his signature as is. There should either be a fixed limit globally across the board, or none at all. If the bandwidth is a problem, the limitation should nip that in the bud. You could probably fit a few hundred lines of text in the same chunk of data it takes for one image. If you don't like having to scroll, turn off the sigs.

but if you like reading the short sigs, you can't turn off the sigs to get rid of the ones that take up more than the screen. Fundamentally, a signature should typically be smaller than the average post, dmcss's sig was so big it nearly was always 5 to 10 X the size of his/her post.

another comment on sigs, I find it interesting that sigs aren't permanent. i.e. all of my old posts have my new sig, not the original one when I made the post.

[Dave Burrell]

Hey gang, the best thing to do is just use common sense - try and figure out what people would really find acceptable to read - not only the content but the quantity.

I never saw anything really wrong with that big sig, I honestly never read any of it because it was so huge and it took up an entire page. Everyone should have the freedom to choose their own message, its just how much of a message really needs to be sent?

and everyone should really thank John and all the mods for the great job they do here. We're not exactly the easiest people to please but they've manged to do pretty darn well all these years so they must be doing something right.

Here's to the new year and good times for all

Cheers

[_john_doe_]

I wish I could put a limit on signatures in my control panel.

You have the ability to configure it, however you choose not to. (apparently)
Interesting that the discussion runs it's path and all the while you claim you have no control over it.

ACP> Settings - User Profile> Maximum Length for User Signatures>
This section allows you to adjust your member's global permissions and other
options that affect their accounts and usage of your forum.

It's discussed in page 131 of the manual
http://www.invisionp...s/ipb23docs.pdf

[Steve Heard]

As for the signature discussion, if no one else is forced to remove or alter his/her signature, I think dcm is justified in keeping his signature as is. There should either be a fixed limit globally across the board, or none at all. If the bandwidth is a problem, the limitation should nip that in the bud. You could probably fit a few hundred lines of text in the same chunk of data it takes for one image. If you don't like having to scroll, turn off the sigs.

dc wasn't forced to remove his/her signature, but others have.

In the past signatures have been edited or removed for content that was controversial, offensive or inflamatory.

There have been sigs addressing sexual, religious and political issues. There sigs with large photos or rambling messages. There was even one about aliens from outer space.

A line has to be drawn somewhere.

I imagine if a member had a signature stating views that were directly opposite of dc's or were otherwise offensive, John would be accused of supporting these views if he didn't take a stand.

A signature, by nature, should be short and sweet, not a thesis, position paper, diatribe or speech.

[_john_doe_]

A signature, by nature, should be short and sweet, not a thesis, position paper, diatribe or speech.

Then the admin should fix the problem within the configuration of the forum rather than everyone taking shots at one another.

[cw68]

OMG, are we just going to see six thousand long signatures now? Enough. Short and sweet, my friends.

[stacycam]

I'm sorry, but it's John's forum, and he can do what he wants. Let's leave it alone.

[john]

_john_doe_ - by golly, you're right... it was there this whole time. I will change it.

I believe the way it works is any new sigs from this point forward will have a limit; any existing can stay, but when you edit it, if it's over, you have to make it smaller.

Can we put this thing to bed now?

[_john_doe_]

I slay me.