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[Dave Burrell]

Where do you guys like to go shooting best?

I've been to the Sacramento Shooting Center (run by the Folsom Gun Club)

to Rancho Cordova Shooting Center and to the Gun Room in Elk Grove


... of all the places, my favorite is the Sacto Shooting Center - I like being out in the country outdoors and that place is very nicely run and very clean and organized ... and safe. I was a member for the past 2 years, it's time to renew again.

The closest place to shoot is at Rancho but that place is kind of a dive and run down, but it's quick to get to

The Gun Room is really nice but I don't like shooting indoors as much as I do outdoors, but I do enjoy being able to move the target electronically, rather then walking out onto the range.

For practice, I like to shoot at 25 yards and 10 yards

[Bill Z]

Well, if you're really serious about HD...then you should try one of these. I call her The Persuader, cuz nothing helps change some bad guy's mind faster than the sound of racking a slide on a 12 gauge.

So true, The positives of shotguns for home defense are obvious when thought about.

1) in the moment of action, when careful attention to proper aim is not necessarily on the forefront of ones mind, shotguns are less likely to "miss" their target.

2) Regardless of a hit or a miss, a loved one in the next room is not likely to be in mortal danger. A shotgun blast will most likely lose it's lethal power after two layers of sheetrock. (The reason I say most likely is, once the shot have spread out enough, the sheet rock will stop the lethal force, but if shot at a wall at near point blank, I'm not sure the smaller punched hole will guarantee the shot entering the second room don't still carry enough force to be lethal)

3) No one outside of your home will accidently be injured by a stray bullet.

[Bill Z]

Where do you guys like to go shooting best?

I've been to the Sacramento Shooting Center (run by the Folsom Gun Club)

to Rancho Cordova Shooting Center and to the Gun Room in Elk Grove
... of all the places, my favorite is the Sacto Shooting Center - I like being out in the country outdoors and that place is very nicely run and very clean and organized ... and safe. I was a member for the past 2 years, it's time to renew again.

The closest place to shoot is at Rancho but that place is kind of a dive and run down, but it's quick to get to

The Gun Room is really nice but I don't like shooting indoors as much as I do outdoors, but I do enjoy being able to move the target electronically, rather then walking out onto the range.

For practice, I like to shoot at 25 yards and 10 yards

I occasionally go to ranges, but my real preference is the national forest. Targets are good when wanting to know exactly where you are hitting. Ranges are ideal when trying to adjust sights or a scope. But I enjoy it more watching cans get kicked into the air, pulling slugs out of old phonebooks to see what they look like after being stopped, watching plastic bottles filled with water virtually explode, and in general being able to do things you can't do at a range. Like being in charge of when you can go down range to check out your targets. That is the one thing I do like about indoor ranges, you shoot at your own timeline, not at the direction of the range master.

[Darth.Central]

+1 shotgun vs handgun, shotgun wins. Assuming no one else but the badguy is around....

Have you ever tried these? http://www.cci-ammun.../shotshell.aspx

They seem interesting but not sure if they are okay -- don't want to mess up my Sigs and I'm not sure if the range will let me use them in rentals (they usually require you to use their ammo).

true - use the P2000 to collect the family in one room - then blast away at BG with the 870

never tried those

been to all those shooting places

prefer dark indoors tight quarters to simulate HD

don't forget to practice single handed weak side rack/reload

[tsukiji]

I usually go to the Gun Room. I checked out the RC Shooting Center but didn't feel comfortable (though they have a skeet area). Never been to the Sacto Gun Club or the one they have up near Placerville.

I like the ease of the ranges like the Gun Room -- easy to change targets, easy to change distances, easy to clean up. The only thing I'm concerned about is the adequecy of the ventilation and the noise -- indoor ranges can be very loud, especially when you get someone w/ a large caliber next to you. I wish we had a nice, close range so I didn't have to trek out to EG each time. If only Folsom PD had a public range....

If anybody was looking to start a business, I'd be your customer....

[Bill Z]

I usually go to the Gun Room. I checked out the RC Shooting Center but didn't feel comfortable (though they have a skeet area). Never been to the Sacto Gun Club or the one they have up near Placerville.

I like the ease of the ranges like the Gun Room -- easy to change targets, easy to change distances, easy to clean up. The only thing I'm concerned about is the adequecy of the ventilation and the noise -- indoor ranges can be very loud, especially when you get someone w/ a large caliber next to you. I wish we had a nice, close range so I didn't have to trek out to EG each time. If only Folsom PD had a public range....

If anybody was looking to start a business, I'd be your customer....

That's another reason I like the National Forest, fresh air!!!

As for loud, I always go with double ear protection. I use the soft foam plugs and then put a headset on over them. It really does make a difference.

[tsukiji]

That's another reason I like the National Forest, fresh air!!!

As for loud, I always go with double ear protection. I use the soft foam plugs and then put a headset on over them. It really does make a difference.

Yup, I do the same thing. I have a Peltor U10 (30NRR) which is pretty good but it's still gets loud sometimes. Thinking about the electronic noise cancelling models but not sure if they'll work any better.

I wish we had a range like the training session in COD4.

[mylo]

Yup, I do the same thing. I have a Peltor U10 (30NRR) which is pretty good but it's still gets loud sometimes. Thinking about the electronic noise cancelling models but not sure if they'll work any better.

I wish we had a range like the training session in COD4.

I doubt electronic noise canceling would have much effect. They work mostly on predictive cancellation, and work best in repetitive noises like airplanes or road noise.

[tsukiji]

I doubt electronic noise canceling would have much effect. They work mostly on predictive cancellation, and work best in repetitive noises like airplanes or road noise.

There are some that seem pretty effective (NRR 30db or more with decent reviews) but they are expensive - about 10x the price of my Peltor Ultimate 10s. I can't justify the cost. I'm pretty happy with what I have but wouldn't mind trying a higher NRR -- just don' see any on the market that can beat my U10s and a comparable price.

This is what I use. Suggestions for anything better? http://www.midwayusa.../...&t=11082005

Example of electronic muffs but I wouldn't buy them....
http://www.midwayusa...leitemid=194878
http://www.topgunsup...EARS-c-385.html

[Bill Z]

There are some that seem pretty effective (NRR 30db or more with decent reviews) but they are expensive - about 10x the price of my Peltor Ultimate 10s. I can't justify the cost. I'm pretty happy with what I have but wouldn't mind trying a higher NRR -- just don' see any on the market that can beat my U10s and a comparable price.

This is what I use. Suggestions for anything better? http://www.midwayusa.../...&t=11082005

Example of electronic muffs but I wouldn't buy them....
http://www.midwayusa...leitemid=194878
http://www.topgunsup...EARS-c-385.html

I wasn't talking the elctronic cancelling kind, just the regular ear muffs over the foam plugs.
I agree, I don't think the noise cancelling can respond to the sharp impulse noise of a weapon.

[tsukiji]

I wasn't talking the elctronic cancelling kind, just the regular ear muffs over the foam plugs.
I agree, I don't think the noise cancelling can respond to the sharp impulse noise of a weapon.

Huh? I don't get it your comment..... Either you or I missed a thread.

Currently, I'm using plugs and non-electronic earmuffs: http://www.midwayusa.../...&t=11082005

This does a pretty good job but wouldn't mind something better.

I'd consider electronic as they allow you to hear someone talking and still are supposed to provide good protection. I know what ya'll are saying but the reviews are pretty good on these things -- they protect fairly well and let you hear people talking. But I'm not willing to spend the money on them ($300). So, I'd assume that they are fairly responsive in attenuating acute noise, not just white noise. But again, I don't know -- just what I read in reviews.

Just wondering if anybody has personal experience with them.

[Bill Z]

Huh? I don't get it your comment..... Either you or I missed a thread.

Currently, I'm using plugs and non-electronic earmuffs: http://www.midwayusa.../...&t=11082005

This does a pretty good job but wouldn't mind something better.

I'd consider electronic as they allow you to hear someone talking and still are supposed to provide good protection. I know what ya'll are saying but the reviews are pretty good on these things -- they protect fairly well and let you hear people talking. But I'm not willing to spend the money on them ($300). So, I'd assume that they are fairly responsive in attenuating acute noise, not just white noise. But again, I don't know -- just what I read in reviews.

Just wondering if anybody has personal experience with them.

Sorry, I mis-interpreted your reply and mixed it up with later replies when I replied.
BTW, your link doesn't work, at least it didn't for me.

Bill Z

[tsukiji]

Sorry, I mis-interpreted your reply and mixed it up with later replies when I replied.
BTW, your link doesn't work, at least it didn't for me.

Bill Z

NP -- I figured one of us missed a post.

Doesn't work -- the link pastes okay but then the posting process takes out some of the link and replaces it w/ "..."

Go here and search for "peltor ultimate 10": http://www.midwayusa.com/

These have been pretty good for me and reasonably priced. Wouldn't mind hearing about other things that might be better in this price range. It works pretty good but is just a little bulky for my range bag. And again, if i could cut the noise a little bit more.....

[Dave Burrell]

one of these days we should get together for a day at the range with lunch in town afterwords

[tsukiji]

one of these days we should get together for a day at the range with lunch in town afterwords

Sounds like a good idea -- what we usually do is range + Squeeze Inn burger. Manly stuff. Woof.

Good times