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#46 supermom

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE(Parizienne @ Oct 8 2008, 10:20 PM) View Post
My daughter wasn't there because she is currently having her freedom curtailed due to a lapse in judgment. However, she did say her friend, (a self-described prep/nerd type), saw a used condom on the dance floor.

I've chaperoned 8th grade dances at the middle school. The kids do make a circle and try to shield their attempts at freaking from chaperones. When I saw that, I'd just bust into the circle nonchalantly and pry them apart by sticking my arms out in front of me and weaving myself between. They hated that, but it's not appropriate and they know it.

As a parent, I say no dances, period, unless these kids understand they will NOT engage in lewd conduct. If they do, all bets are off for Homecoming, Prom, all of it.

It's not a flippin' brothel. It's an educational institution. Dances are tradition and a privilege, not a right, a given, or a mandate. These kids need a cold, hard and rude slap in the face.

Drugs are everywhere at that school. Something needs to be done. It's so bad that even the non-stoner kids say it's common knowledge as to who sells and where various "products" can be purchased.

Terrifying.

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Pari--I'm glad you volunteer to chaperone at dances--you seem like a cool headed--mama protecting her child kind of teacher.

with that said..........


I never--ever did drugs. Never had. Never will. But I do clearly remember eknowing exactly who was the pot head and who was the seller. Sometimes they were were jocks and cheerleaders/ sometimes they were bangers/ but incredibly-sometimes you would see a few nerds out there hooking and selling dope. Or crack.

at around 8th grade is when these kids start to learn how to transform their personalities like chameleons depending on where they are at ( like school or home ).

My best friend went to a catholic school and wore a mini skirt there---at home she palled around cut off jeans. Her other catholic school friends wore regular length skirts to catholic school and were "doing the nasty" to the boys at Sacred Heart.

Sex in high school is not new. Its not suddenly prevalent. Its the parents not understanding that their kids are high schoolers now---and they need to be parents--not cool.

I know, I like being the cool parent and picking my kid up from school and taking her out to eat and watch a movie and go shopping and then help her cram for tests.

But I also show up early every now and then and check her back pack in front of her friends for make up and boys notes and...... whatever else.

What was it my mama said to me a long time ago? Sometimes it sucks to be cool, don't it?

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 01:11 PM

I get a kick out of a society that is hell bent on pushing sex on our kids, condoms in school, sex-instruction in class, free after-the-fact remedies, broadcasting the message that "Everyone is doing it anyway"



... and then gets upset when the kids do what they're told.


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Posted 09 October 2008 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(normajean @ Oct 8 2008, 02:53 PM) View Post
I can't seem to pick my jaw up off the floor! I also hear that this dance had more alcohol and drugs than others. Are any of you seeing this type of behavior? Is any of this accurate?? Please enlighten an old fogey.....


Pulling kids out of the line to check for dialated pupils and breathelizers at the door....a little differant story than what you heard. I doubted the story I heard too, until over half of the kids telling it to me showed me the tubes they had to breath in to for the test before being allowed in. Hmmmmmm

In the world of youtube and camera phones, there has to be some evidence of this if it was taking place.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE(Revolutionist @ Oct 9 2008, 02:11 PM) View Post
I get a kick out of a society that is hell bent on pushing sex on our kids, condoms in school, sex-instruction in class, free after-the-fact remedies, broadcasting the message that "Everyone is doing it anyway"
... and then gets upset when the kids do what they're told.


Try watching a MLB game on a Saturday afternoon. Prime time to watch something with your kid. Every commericial is either for viagra, cialis, levitra or my new personal favorite the movie, How to Make a Porn. WTF?????

Does no one care that kids are watching this stuff? This is a baseball game for pete's sake, this isn't a drama on at 10pm. Based on 95% of the stuff on tv, our kids don't stand a chance.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:40 PM

As a student at Folsom High School who attended the recent questionable Homecoming Dance, I would like to set a few things straight. Yes, there are students at Folsom High School who have had sex, abuse drugs, and have done other suggestive actions on a consistent basis; however, that is present at ALL high schools. Furthermore, Folsom High School has a student population of over 2,000 students. This blog suggests that all students are consistently engaging in these actions when in reality, few are.
The belief that students were having sex on the dance floor is rather absurd. Even if the students at Folsom High School were all as vile as it has been suggested by this blog, the supervision at the dances I believe has been rather decent; however many students are frusturated by it and believe it has been over the top. For the first "offense" students lose a wrist band and for the second they are asked to leave and their id cards are confiscated until monday at school. If a giant orgy was really taking place in the center of that circle I believe that the school would have cut a few more wristbands.
In relation to the dance, yes, breathalizer/sobriety tests were given randomly to students entering; however that happens at all school dances and has for some time.
The concerns about the dance are understandable; however, they are far from realistic. All too often when a few kids step out of line in this community, various parents believe that all of this community's youth are headed down a bad path. Look at the recent school rankings of Folsom High School in the Sacramento magazine. Look at the school's test scores. The school and students must be doing something right.


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Posted 09 October 2008 - 05:23 PM

i have also been told that there was in fact random breathalizer testing going on in line BEFORE kids could go in. unfortunately, there were no tests once inside. if there had been, then possibly the girls with the flask taped to her right side under her dress would have failed the test as she was very drunk.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 05:29 PM

Reality Check,
Thank you for posting and making those of us who are parents feel a little better.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 05:33 PM

realitycheck916, it sounds as though you have not been exposed to the behavior that is being reported. you are lucky and i am happy for you. it has not been said that folsom high is a terrible school. you are correct, there are many things that the majority of students are doing right.

unfortunately, there are some, many, a few, who knows, that are NOT doing things right. those are the ones this thread is discussing, not kids like you. so please don't take it as such.

i am convinced that there were students having sex at that dance, in the middle of the dance floor. IS it happening or not, is no longer the question...what can we, as a community, as parents, do about it from here on out is now the issue?

if nothing else, at least an awareness has been raised among us adults and obviously some good conversations between parents and teens are taking place.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE(ChefRaven @ Oct 9 2008, 03:34 PM) View Post
Try watching a MLB game on a Saturday afternoon. Prime time to watch something with your kid. Every commericial is either for viagra, cialis, levitra or my new personal favorite the movie, How to Make a Porn. WTF?????

Does no one care that kids are watching this stuff? This is a baseball game for pete's sake, this isn't a drama on at 10pm. Based on 95% of the stuff on tv, our kids don't stand a chance.


I know! What about HGTV's House Hunters and My House is Worth What, Buy Me. . . Lots of same sex couples referred to as "partner", our 10 year old boy whispers "are they gay?"

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 07:29 AM

QUOTE(realitycheck916 @ Oct 9 2008, 05:40 PM) View Post
As a student at Folsom High School who attended the recent questionable Homecoming Dance, I would like to set a few things straight. Yes, there are students at Folsom High School who have had sex, abuse drugs, and have done other suggestive actions on a consistent basis; however, that is present at ALL high schools. Furthermore, Folsom High School has a student population of over 2,000 students. This blog suggests that all students are consistently engaging in these actions when in reality, few are.
The belief that students were having sex on the dance floor is rather absurd. Even if the students at Folsom High School were all as vile as it has been suggested by this blog, the supervision at the dances I believe has been rather decent; however many students are frusturated by it and believe it has been over the top. For the first "offense" students lose a wrist band and for the second they are asked to leave and their id cards are confiscated until monday at school. If a giant orgy was really taking place in the center of that circle I believe that the school would have cut a few more wristbands.
In relation to the dance, yes, breathalizer/sobriety tests were given randomly to students entering; however that happens at all school dances and has for some time.
The concerns about the dance are understandable; however, they are far from realistic. All too often when a few kids step out of line in this community, various parents believe that all of this community's youth are headed down a bad path. Look at the recent school rankings of Folsom High School in the Sacramento magazine. Look at the school's test scores. The school and students must be doing something right.


No way this was written by a high school student. Grammar is way to good. laugh.gif


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Posted 10 October 2008 - 07:32 AM

QUOTE(nlove4ever @ Oct 10 2008, 08:29 AM) View Post
No way this was written by a high school student. Grammar is way to good. laugh.gif


Believe it or not, some of us were quite capable of writing that in high school.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 07:37 AM

QUOTE(nlove4ever @ Oct 10 2008, 08:29 AM) View Post
No way this was written by a high school student. Grammar is way too good. laugh.gif


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Posted 10 October 2008 - 08:31 AM

QUOTE(normajean @ Oct 8 2008, 02:53 PM) View Post
I have been told by numerous teenagers, of all different cliques and groups, that some very disturbing things are happening at school dances, in particular Folsom High's Homecoming Dance this past weekend. Is it really true?

It is being reported that MANY students are having sex in the middle of the dance floor!!! The girls are wearing short dresses (the kind with the thick elastic bottom at mid thigh) and nothing underneath. Some of the boys are lying on the floor on their backs, some are standing right there in the middle of the crowd! Others are having sex in the bathrooms, some with multiple partners!!

I can't seem to pick my jaw up off the floor! I also hear that this dance had more alcohol and drugs than others. Are any of you seeing this type of behavior? Is any of this accurate?? Please enlighten an old fogey.....



seriously?????????
Do you really think that we would go at it right in the middle of a dance floor with 2 thousand people crowding around us?

nahhh..... thanks, but that aint accurate. At all.
And you think we would go at it in the bathrooms? With multiple partners? Thanks, but i'm not into diseases.

We don't have sex at the dance.
Before and after, yeah.

but not during. Sorry guys.

And it's not like we're going around screwing anyone we see. If we have sex, it's with a girlfriend/boyfriend.

Come on.


Have some faith in us.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 08:37 AM

Glad to see some input from actual HS kids.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE(normajean @ Oct 9 2008, 06:33 PM) View Post
realitycheck916, it sounds as though you have not been exposed to the behavior that is being reported. you are lucky and i am happy for you. it has not been said that folsom high is a terrible school. you are correct, there are many things that the majority of students are doing right.

unfortunately, there are some, many, a few, who knows, that are NOT doing things right. those are the ones this thread is discussing, not kids like you. so please don't take it as such.

i am convinced that there were students having sex at that dance, in the middle of the dance floor. IS it happening or not, is no longer the question...what can we, as a community, as parents, do about it from here on out is now the issue?

if nothing else, at least an awareness has been raised among us adults and obviously some good conversations between parents and teens are taking place.


Sensationalism and rumor. Dare I suggest that most of the "info." provided by normajean is based on 1.) Rumor and suspicion from kids who weren't at the dance and 2.) Vista motivated sensationalism?

I know I am from the dark ages, but I can not imagine any of my early sexual experiences being witnessed by anyone! rolleyes.gif Let alone my entire HS! How many kids (and adults) have nightmares about showing up in school in their pajamas! To think that sex on a dance floor goes unnoticed by chaperones that were administering breathalizers at the door and is accepted as "cool" to form a circle and hide is ludicrous.

Believe what you like. Personally I think Elvis is dead, nobody had sex on the dance floor at Folsom and the Cubs just choked again. smile.gif tongue.gif




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