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#46 james1

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (davburr @ Jan 4 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
quick note, cvanderveen is actually a good person, and a new parent, and he's a thinker... we may not always agree, but I respect him.

chipshot is another story, he likes to be very negative all the time, I can only assume he's that way because it's his hobby (?) Nobody can really figure out what his deal is.


please understand that I do not think chip or cvand are bad people...just tired of the negativity. Somebody died! Why in the world are these people telling me its wrong to feel sad

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 05:29 PM

Just ignore them and eventually they'll go away. Making comments like they do is the modern day crank call. They are sad indivuduals with not much else to do but try to get a rise out of people by slinging pooh online.

It happens on all forums and message boards.

#48 ChipShot

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (james1 @ Jan 4 2009, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
someone try explainig that to chip and cvanderveen..sometimes the people on this board make me sick

What brand of violin is that ???... boohoo.gif

Chad and I don't mourn complete strangers like some of you celebrity-lovers do.

It's as simple as that. Quit the whining.

Save-up your energy for when Anna Nicole Smith dies of a drug overdose.

Oh, wait..... laugh.gif
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#49 Chad Vander Veen

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 09:25 PM

QUOTE (davburr @ Jan 4 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
quick note, cvanderveen is actually a good person, and a new parent, and he's a thinker... we may not always agree, but I respect him.

chipshot is another story, he likes to be very negative all the time, I can only assume he's that way because it's his hobby (?) Nobody can really figure out what his deal is.


Thanks Dave, as you no doubt can tell this "sympathy for strangers" phenomenon really intrigues me. I imagine it's one of the things humans do that will confound scientists in the future.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 08:27 AM

QUOTE (james1 @ Jan 4 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
please understand that I do not think chip or cvand are bad people...just tired of the negativity. Somebody died! Why in the world are these people telling me its wrong to feel sad

I think there is a perception problem from reading peoples posts and then others take it to some limit in interpretation.

I posted I feel sorry for John & his wife and get blasted for being all teary and weepy.
Well, i can tell you I didn't shed a tear, and as far as mourning goes, when I read about the tragedy, I felt bad for the Travoltas, I reply to the topic stating as much, I hit "post reply",, and move on to the next topic and I'm now thinking about whatever it is. So just because I show some compassion for those who suffered a tragedy, doesn't mean I'm some emotional wreck that can't deal with it.
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#51 Dave Burrell

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 08:47 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Jan 5 2009, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think there is a perception problem from reading peoples posts and then others take it to some limit in interpretation.

I posted I feel sorry for John & his wife and get blasted for being all teary and weepy.
Well, i can tell you I didn't shed a tear, and as far as mourning goes, when I read about the tragedy, I felt bad for the Travoltas, I reply to the topic stating as much, I hit "post reply",, and move on to the next topic and I'm now thinking about whatever it is. So just because I show some compassion for those who suffered a tragedy, doesn't mean I'm some emotional wreck that can't deal with it.


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Posted 05 January 2009 - 08:59 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Jan 5 2009, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I posted I feel sorry for John & his wife

I feel badly for anyone who has to bury their child. That's not the issue.

I don't have a fixation on celebrities like many in our society (and some in this forum). Most people who are famous aren't important, and most people who are important aren't famous. laugh.gif
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (ChipShot @ Jan 3 2009, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
None of us are being "cold-hearted".

To accuse us of that is dumb, but feel-free to take shots at us.

But be warned: We shoot back !! ohmy.gif


I am not offended by the posts that Chip or Chad? (CVander?), made. There are different things/new items that move each of us personally, we all have our soft spots, Chip and Cvander have theirs and we have ours. . .I never thought they were being cold hearted, just stating their thoughts, like we have done. . . Chip was 2nd to post and said it was tragic, he even pulled/posted the story, since I didnt. Im done now. Happy 2009

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:15 AM

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I feel bad for the Travolta's. I feel bad for parents of sick children everywhere. I don't think this is about celebrity worship. It's just yet another reminder of how fragile life is and how we should all cherish the moments we have in our own lives. Whether 'tragedy' happens in your family or friends, in local news, or celebrities with 8 nannies it still hits a nail home that this sort of thing could happen to any of us.

I do know, however, that if my son was sick and prone to seizures I wouldn't trust some whacko with vitamins and a tomato to 'heal' him.
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:37 AM

QUOTE (ChipShot @ Jan 5 2009, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel badly for anyone who has to bury their child. That's not the issue.

I don't have a fixation on celebrities like many in our society (and some in this forum). Most people who are famous aren't important, and most people who are important aren't famous. laugh.gif

Hey Chippy does have a heart. Your first sentence is likely what everyone on here is thinking - no more, no less. No one is holding a candle vigil or skipping work to mourn, just simply saying they are sad to hear a child died. And the only reason for saying so at this time and this particular case is because the news reports on his famous parents.

In my career, I have worked for celebrities and influential people and their
"status" never impressed me beyond seeing them as another human who with either a ton of luck or nose to the grindstone hard work accomplished more than others.

Cheers to a Happy New Year ChipShot biggrin.gif

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:38 AM

QUOTE (mylo @ Jan 5 2009, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another day, another year, on MyFolsom.com

I feel bad for the Travolta's. I feel bad for parents of sick children everywhere. I don't think this is about celebrity worship. It's just yet another reminder of how fragile life is and how we should all cherish the moments we have in our own lives. Whether 'tragedy' happens in your family or friends, in local news, or celebrities with 8 nannies it still hits a nail home that this sort of thing could happen to any of us.

I do know, however, that if my son was sick and prone to seizures I wouldn't trust some whacko with vitamins and a tomato to 'heal' him.


Mylo, serious question. Do you actually FEEL anything regarding the Travoltas? I ask because maybe I'm the weird one for not feeling anything at all.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE (ChipShot @ Jan 5 2009, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel badly for anyone who has to bury their child. That's not the issue.

I don't have a fixation on celebrities like many in our society (and some in this forum). Most people who are famous aren't important, and most people who are important aren't famous. laugh.gif


Get over yourself and stop making stuff up about posters to whine about.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (c_vanderveen @ Jan 5 2009, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mylo, serious question. Do you actually FEEL anything regarding the Travoltas? I ask because maybe I'm the weird one for not feeling anything at all.

Yes, I feel empathy. I turn the situation inward (perhaps selfishly) and think "Gosh dang, that would suck if that happened to my son! I would feel like crap, my wife would be a mess, I can only imagine how they're feeling." I don't like anyone feeling bad, and the thought that someone, anyone (and everyone everywhere), is going through that makes me 'feel' things.

I try not to let every death bring me down, or I'd be upset every 3.6 seconds, but high profile stories like this (or local news) are sharp reminders of how lucky I am that my family is healthy and alive.
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#59 ChipShot

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:50 AM

QUOTE (eVader @ Jan 5 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Chippy does have a heart....

Cheers to a Happy New Year ChipShot biggrin.gif

Of course I do...I just don't get weepy over complete strangers like many seem to do. It's a phenomenon that is semi-odd, in a weird kind of way.

Happy New Year to you, too.... smile.gif
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (mylo @ Jan 5 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I feel empathy. I turn the situation inward (perhaps selfishly) and think "Gosh dang, that would suck if that happened to my son! I would feel like crap, my wife would be a mess, I can only imagine how they're feeling." I don't like anyone feeling bad, and the thought that someone, anyone (and everyone everywhere), is going through that makes me 'feel' things.

I try not to let every death bring me down, or I'd be upset every 3.6 seconds, but high profile stories like this (or local news) are sharp reminders of how lucky I am that my family is healthy and alive.

well said, although you forgot about the part, where you move on and you aren't laboring on the disaster like so many on here are implying.

Now I do know a person that is an emotional basket case that does go on & on. This person was an emotional wreck for a whole day when a certain professional sports team traded away a certain team member (who was no relation to this person). But I haven't read anything on here that would lead me to believe that anyone here is that much of a wack-job. Although there seem to be 2-3 posters on here that think we all are.
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