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[jafount]

Cbs 13 just stated that Folsom Police Officer Evan Fardanesh was really not arrested, he was just sited and realeased to his dad by Folsom officers and given a court date ! Is this total BS or what ! Anyone of us would have been rolled up and hauled off to jail if we were drinking and driving !

http://cbs13.com/bre....2.1003773.html

This is quite normal.

[jafount]

And why do you think that?

Jaflaunt gave a lambasting to everybody about how the poor guy lost his job and career and everybody who called for them to, you know, uphold the law was a douchebag because he didn't really steal anything, only transported it. Yep, details.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was back on the force though. Heck, he may have even been the guy on the call to drive the drunk cop home to his Mommy.

The Folsom PD is a mess. They have like 65 officers and all we ever hear is bad news. Why is that?

Hmmmm...no...

I said that I felt the theft charge was bogus because it's refuse. Should transporting used cooking grease even be an offense? You mean to tell me the brass at FPD doesn't have better ways to spend their time? This is typical of the politicians who end up as administrators in police departments. As a rule, they tend to be ready and willing to walk over everyone and anyone, so long as they keep their power.

Can you please post the quote where I "called everyone a douchebag"?

[Darthvader]

Hmmmm...no...

I said that I felt the theft charge was bogus because it's refuse. Should transporting used cooking grease even be an offense? You mean to tell me the brass at FPD doesn't have better ways to spend their time? This is typical of the politicians who end up as administrators in police departments. As a rule, they tend to be ready and willing to walk over everyone and anyone, so long as they keep their power.

Can you please post the quote where I "called everyone a douchebag"?

Your quote from the thread about the kid killed by Folsom PD:

Awful lot of douchebaggery here. Actually, officers are trained to respond with the next higher level of force within the escalation of force continuum. You resist, I go hands on or pepper spray or taser. You raise your fists in a fighting stance, I go to the stick and break your hands. You brandish a knife, I go to the gun. (snip).........

[irish1]

When a person is arrested for D.U.I. and cooperates, as is the law (Implied Consent etc.), the arresting officer can elect to release the subject to a responsible adult, who is willing to take custody - and - responsibility for that person, and insure that they do not drive a vehicle for a determined amount of time (until sober). The person taking custody of the DUI, must sign legal forms stating they are now responsible for the subjects actions during that time.

The DUI subject is, and has been arrested for the crime. They sign arrest forms and are provided copies. It is referred to as a cite-and-release. A citation is an arrest for all intents and purposes. By using this process, it accomplishes a few things.... 1. The ofc. is back on the street in a more timely manner.... 2. By releasing the subj to a responsible adult, we save 'booking fees' charged to the City by the County Jail (Sheriff).

Sure, it looks like preferential treatment when applied to this scenario, however, it was just how (DUI) business is done - under cooperative circumstances.

[Clay]

I don't want to get into a war of words with anyone, but just wanted to say that I've met Officer Fardanesh on multiple occasions at my work over the last quite a few years and he has always been very professional and polite. Clearly a bad decision on his part and I don't think anyone is suggesting leniency, but just keep in mind, law enforcement and firefighters are humans too. They have families to support just like everyone else does and most people don't have to worry about losing their job over a DUI. I do hope the judgment is fair by all standards.

[Clay]

How is it that no one showed this type of compassion for the woman arrested in February 2009 for a felony DUI with a .15 not a .19 alcohol level - no battery, only a very minor injury, who worked for the school district, was taken to jail, had to post bond - not driven home home to his family. Where is the equality? Are some of us more privileged than others?

[Clay]

The rest of the population who are convicted of DUI are able to keep it from their employers, family, friends... Maybe that's the problem, maybe it shouldn't be so easy for everyone else, but to lose your career when no one else does, doesn't sound like being let off the hook easy to me. Not to mention, I don't think everyone else has their name broadcasted all over the news for a DUI. Maybe they all should though... Just a thought

[Clay]

I'm sure everyone is sorry that this incident happened, but society demands that all its citizens are treated equally.

That is nice in theory, but I'm not sure if it's really true...that all citizens are treated equally.

[Clay]

Absolutely true -- if anything, Public officials should be held at a higher standard.

[Clay]

Actually, this is very common (cite and release to responsible party) in Folsom because transporting arrestees to Sacramento County Jail (downtown Sacramento) takes officers off Folsom streets for a minimum of two hours. Folsom PD has a jail in its basement but there was never any funding for its staffing so choices have to be made and that choice is to cite and release unless there's an overriding reason to transport to Sac. Check out the Folsom Police logs - the majority of dui arrests are cite and release.

Actually, the arrested person that is transported to County Jail is billed by the City of Folsom for all services associated with the arrest - officers, paramedics, fire department - anyone that responds to the call. Everyone should be treated in the same manner, including police officers

[hopeanelli]

How is it that no one showed this type of compassion for the woman arrested in February 2009 for a felony DUI with a .15 not a .19 alcohol level - no battery, only a very minor injury, who worked for the school district, was taken to jail, had to post bond - not driven home home to his family. Where is the equality? Are some of us more privileged than others?

Actually the person she hit (a cop) ended up with a broken hip or fractured hip so that is a little more than a minor injury.


Another note in response to why was he released and are some privileged, I am not an expert but I don't think they put cops in the drunk tank due to the fact that they are cops most times they are released on there own recognizance which is not uncommon for the public either not all drunks are taken to the tank they can be cited and released if they are border line, someone can come get them and they aren't be arses' to the cops... I'm just saying...

[Sue]

Generally speaking, law enforcement is "above the law", so to speak. Is that fair?

[Sue]

Hmmmm...no...

I said that I felt the theft charge was bogus because it's refuse. Should transporting used cooking grease even be an offense? You mean to tell me the brass at FPD doesn't have better ways to spend their time? This is typical of the politicians who end up as administrators in police departments. As a rule, they tend to be ready and willing to walk over everyone and anyone, so long as they keep their power.

Can you please post the quote where I "called everyone a douchebag"?

Taking something that is not yours that you plan on using or benefiting from is not right.

[irish1]

How is it that no one showed this type of compassion for the woman arrested in February 2009 for a felony DUI with a .15 not a .19 alcohol level - no battery, only a very minor injury, who worked for the school district, was taken to jail, had to post bond - not driven home home to his family. Where is the equality? Are some of us more privileged than others?

Clay... excuse me sir, but you answered your own question in your post. FELONY vs. MISDEMEANOR... The BAC (.15 or .19) has no bearing. Both are over .08 BAC (Blood Alcohol Content) which is presumed under the influence.

Difference between the incidents you list, is one incident involved a DUI collision with injury = FELONY DUI And the other involves straight DUI, with no collision, no injuries = MISDEMEANOR. All felony charged crimes are booked at the county jail.

Sir, I ask you to show the priviledge(s) that were extended in the situation of the officer being arrested. Anyone, please show me the priviledges extended in this situation. The off-duty officer was taken into custody - BY HIS ON-DUTY CO-WORKERS - in the same manner that anyone else would have been, with the given circumstances known at the time.

Oh, wait... 'driven home to his mommy...' was one I recall from someone on this topic. Wrong. Released to a family member, same as anyone else, with the same circumstances. And they drove to the P.D. - again, like everyone else, to pick him up.

[The Average Joe]

Sure the police force is a fraternity, but if you don't go "Adam Henry," you stand a pretty good chance of being treated well.
While I have never felt the cold steel bracelets, I have had many "opportunities" to interact with police. In those many instances, I always got back exactly what I gave them. Fortunately, my courtesy and respect not only kept me out of a lot of trouble, it was also reciprocated by them.

Almost everyone I knew that had a chip on their shoulder about some negative police action against them brought it all on themselves.

Just sayin...