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[Barb J]

Boy do I feel old reading that Facebook page. And so glad to be old!!!

My guess is that Folsom has not changed much, it likely has always been this way. I grew up in a small town not unlike Folsom and knew people (cough cough) who hung out at parks and did things that parents wouldn't approve of. We just didn't have FB and other social media outlets on which to publicize it (thank the lord).

The sad part is that the parents probably don't care if the kids don't care enough to hide it.

Barb J

[Rich_T]

Just received this news release from the Folsom PD:

An investigation into the stabbing death of a 19 year old Folsom man revealed he may have been involved in a drug deal gone badly. Although the murder of Minor Leon was solved within minutes of his death, the investigation into Saturday night’s murder lasted well into the following day.

Joshua Atkins attracted a passing officer’s attention when he sprinted in front of the officer’s marked patrol car on East Bidwell Street. The officer eventually detained him as he dodged into a nearby alleyway.

Two officers responding to assist to first officer caught the glimpse of a man lying facedown on the sidewalk in front of 616 East Bidwell Street. When they stopped to check of the welfare of the man, they discovered he had been stabbed. The man was non-responsive and had no pulse when paramedics arrived on scene. Despite their life saving efforts, Minor Leon was pronounced dead at Mercy Hospital of Folsom. Officers quickly connected the two incidents.

Good police work on behalf of the officers involved resulted in the immediate capture of Atkins. He was booked into the Sacramento County Jail where he is being held ineligible for bail.

Somehow, that doesn't seem to tell the full story, does it?

[Steve Heard]

I am also horrified that Folsom is being infiltrated by the "gangsta" culture, as I hoped it never would be.

Folsom used to have a real gang problem back in the 80's.

I am not surprised at all in these kids. The gangsta culture is glorified by celebrities in music, fashion, by and the dreaded 'reality' shows.

Nope, not just you. I can't believe what they call each other.

I'm with you on that one. I once had to pass a crowded bar to get to my where I'd parked my car. There was a group of young white kids outside, and they were trying to restrain one of them from fighting someone inside the bar who was out of my view. All I could hear as I approached was, 'f____ you n____!', 'I'll kick yo arse, n___!'

As I passed them, I see that inside the bar, another group of white kids was restraining another white guy who was yelling back at his nemesis, 'f____ you n___!' 'I'll f____ you up, n___!'

I wanted to discuss the use of the word with them, but thought I'd better just let them play.

As for the parents, I don't know what level of involvement or guidance they offered, but the two young men in question were adults, so the parents may have had little control.

The 'kids will be kids' excuse has been used since the beginning of parental excuse-making.

[brown]

So why was he not in jail if he was sentenced to 90 days in early September?

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Somehow, that doesn't seem to tell the full story, does it?

Absolutely not. Just sharing.

[ducky]

Folsom used to have a real gang problem back in the 80's.

It did? I've lived here since '83 and don't remember that at all. I know every time I've seen a problem developing in the past, the PD has been right on top of it. I'm just worried that may no longer be the case.

I am not surprised at all in these kids. The gangsta culture is glorified by celebrities in music, fashion, by and the dreaded 'reality' shows.



I'm with you on that one. I once had to pass a crowded bar to get to my where I'd parked my car. There was a group of young white kids outside, and they were trying to restrain one of them from fighting someone inside the bar who was out of my view. All I could hear as I approached was, 'f____ you n____!', 'I'll kick yo arse, n___!'

As I passed them, I see that inside the bar, another group of white kids was restraining another white guy who was yelling back at his nemesis, 'f____ you n___!' 'I'll f____ you up, n___!'

I wanted to discuss the use of the word with them, but thought I'd better just let them play.

I heard a young white girl call her two African-American male friends that same name as they all were laughing and joking around walking up Dean Way. I just don't get it.

As for the parents, I don't know what level of involvement or guidance they offered, but the two young men in question were adults, so the parents may have had little control.

I don't know the level of involvement either and I'm trying to be mindful of the fact that, no matter the circumstances, some parents have just lost their child and are heartbroken.

The 'kids will be kids' excuse has been used since the beginning of parental excuse-making.

I know it's probably naive, but I'd like to see something good come out of this like some lives taking a different turn instead of excuses being made.

[Redone]

I know it's probably naive, but I'd like to see something good come out of this like some lives taking a different turn instead of excuses being made.

Good call... clean up gangs, drugs, and homeless to turn some around.

Maybe we can also get some to never start. Drug use starts in elementary and junior high. Even last week Vista closed the bathrooms due to pot use.

[Carl G]

Does anyone know the family background of the parties involved? Are they long time Folsom residents?

[Lisa in Folsom]

Is it me or is anyone else blown away by the language and lack of basic writing skills from those who posted on the Telegraph? Is this the result of the Folsom schools because it is horrifying!

I am feeling the need to go home an bubble wrap my children for the next ten years!

[Terry]

So why was he not in jail if he was sentenced to 90 days in early September?

Jail overcrowding I would guess...

[Steve Heard]

Is it me or is anyone else blown away by the language and lack of basic writing skills from those who posted on the Telegraph? Is this the result of the Folsom schools because it is horrifying!

I am feeling the need to go home an bubble wrap my children for the next ten years!

This is how many kids talk. When I see my daughters and neices and nephews write each other online, I am no longer shocked by what they say or how they say it. Speling n grammer aint impotent no mo.

[ducky]

Is it me or is anyone else blown away by the language and lack of basic writing skills from those who posted on the Telegraph? Is this the result of the Folsom schools because it is horrifying!

I am feeling the need to go home an bubble wrap my children for the next ten years!

I understand your sentiment about the language and writing skills, but it's not the result of going to school in Folsom for children who have parents that pay attention to their children's education.

[1joelgomz]

I know this young man by the name of joshua atkins well. i went to high school with him. i had many classs with him. i also played sports with him. he struggled in highschool but was a great kid. his home life wasnt the greatest. however he usually maintained a great attitude. this is very heart wrenching to see in the news. im am very upset to see this happen to both of them. im now in north carolina and havent seen him in months. before i moved in june he was taking a jog on the american river bike trail and was his usual goofy joshua atkins self. keep both in your prayers. prayers for the family who lost a son and prayers for josh that he may get what is deserve but may be a witness and some how he can impact the city of folsom and sacramento in some way. Even if he is guilty i will be in his corner for support no matter the outcome. god bless

Edited by 1joelgomz, 05 October 2011 - 04:14 PM.

[momof1]

"My son once told me that living in my house was like living in a prison. I replied, better to live in one now, with a chance to get out at age eighteen, than live in one for life, later."

I agree with your entire post, but thought the above is a gem of a quote. I hope I can remember it if my child ever says our home is like a prison. Excellent comeback!