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[ducky]

Don't tell my wife this, she's done it twice, both while 100% completely sober. Once was after a doctor visit, she put it in drive instead of reverse and ran into a brick wall (no major damage), the other was in our drive way one morning getting ready to go to work, bumped into my car (no major damage).

I'm with you, I've never ever done that in my 30 years of driving.

It happens. Not everyone is 100% perfect.

Or maybe guys are just better drivers then women? (ducking and running before I get beaten for that statement..)

What I don't understand is stomping on the gas to back out of a space. I've mistakenly had the car in drive, but instantly recognized it and stopped the car before it moved a couple inches forward.

[chris v]

For those that have forgotten to put it in drive instead of reverse and vice versa I ask this one question... Have you ever found yourself walking backwards for no apparent reason?

[ducky]

For those that have forgotten to put it in drive instead of reverse and vice versa I ask this one question... Have you ever found yourself walking backwards for no apparent reason?

Nope, can't say that's ever happened.

To those of you that are perfect, What's it like to walk on water?

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

What I don't understand is stomping on the gas to back out of a space. I've mistakenly had the car in drive, but instantly recognized it and stopped the car before it moved a couple inches forward.

I don't understand stomping on the gas to move out of a parking space no matter which direction you're supposed to be going. You ease out, watching all around you to make sure you're not going to hit someone or something. Gunning the gas to get out of a parking space is simply not safe. As you said, if you're easing out, it wouldn't take long to figure out if you're going the wrong way.

[ducky]

I don't understand stomping on the gas to move out of a parking space no matter which direction you're supposed to be going. You ease out, watching all around you to make sure you're not going to hit someone or something. Gunning the gas to get out of a parking space is simply not safe. As you said, if you're easing out, it wouldn't take long to figure out if you're going the wrong way.

Exactly.

For those wondering how us imperfect folk could find ourselves in drive when we should be in reverse, the last time it happened to me I had driven my husband's ginormous truck to pick up something at Lowe's. When I got back to the truck, someone had parked very close one one side and another large truck was parked directly behind. I know it's wrong, but I decided to take the easy way out and pull forward into the empty space in front of me and go out that way as soon as this guy in the car going down that lane passed by. "This guy" of course decides to park in front of me so now I'm just going to have to back out and probably do a couple three-point things. I forget it's in drive, but as soon as I let off the brake I realize it's wanting to go forward and put it into reverse and slowly ease out.

[nomad]

I don't understand stomping on the gas to move out of a parking space no matter which direction you're supposed to be going. You ease out, watching all around you to make sure you're not going to hit someone or something. Gunning the gas to get out of a parking space is simply not safe. As you said, if you're easing out, it wouldn't take long to figure out if you're going the wrong way.

Are we all forgetting that this woman was probably completely drunk and impaired at the time of this incident? I doubt she would have made the same mistake 8 hours earlier in the day.

[ducky]

Are we all forgetting that this woman was probably completely drunk and impaired at the time of this incident? I doubt she would have made the same mistake 8 hours earlier in the day.

Sorry. My fault for getting off topic. I was referring to other accidents where people run into storefronts and the like while being completely sober. I don't think any of us are defending her actions at all.

In fact, I'm not sure if it's a fact that this woman was parked directly in front of the patio, or if she traveled through the parking lot and made a turn too soon and traveled through the patio, or if she was angry because she was refused service, or if she passed out at the wheel while traveling out of the lot. I'm not sure how everyone came up with the "she thought she was in reverse" theory. Whatever happened, she was't in charge of her faculties at the time, and it's unfortunate for the people that were injured and FLB.

[mary56]

A few things after reading posts....Chris V, no I have NEVER been pulled over by FPD or any other law enforcement agency. Actually have never even had a speeding ticket.

I am not blaming FPD for the accident, but like any other PD they do petty things and do not really focus on the real things that are going on. Yeah, Folsom is getting a bad rap for the DUI problem or so where are Folsom's Finest anyway......They are on side streets trying to boost up revenue, with trivial, minute things.

I have seen a numerous speeders on Bidwell, and never see the PD!!!!!!!

I realize it is everyones OWN responsibility to drive and not drink or to drive cautiously, but if we know there are so many drunk drivers out there, why are there not more checkpoints, why are not the bars being checked. Believe me, Folsom has some big issues with this, for a small town.

Also, I watch KCRA 3 every night and they do not even mention Folsom, only barely. They focus on Stockton and Modesto....

As far as this accident the other night. A friend of mine knows an employee who works there and it was a WAR zone. That is as far as I will go with the descriptions, as it is pretty graphic. I am so sorry about that young woman, too. What a tragedy.

So this loser needs to be incarcerated and I still stand by if it had been a weekend night, there would have been fatalities.

More has to be done in Folsom, by someone, as it is really getting to be a unsafe place, with burglaries and drunk drivers and people all know this.

I have no hidden agenda, just want people to do their jobs properly.

[nomad]

So do you have any real solutions besides the "something should be done" remark?

Checkpoints every night at every intersection in Folsom?

Cops stationed at every watering hole checking every driver that leaves?

Should we have to show our papers at certain places?

I tell people that I work with they shouldn't complain unless they have solutions to problems. We see issues all the time (speeding, etc) but unless you have an idea how to fix the problem ranting about it does little good except maybe make you feel a little better.

[mary56]

So do you have any real solutions besides the "something should be done" remark?

Checkpoints every night at every intersection in Folsom?

Cops stationed at every watering hole checking every driver that leaves?

Should we have to show our papers at certain places?

I tell people that I work with they shouldn't complain unless they have solutions to problems. We see issues all the time (speeding, etc) but unless you have an idea how to fix the problem ranting about it does little good except maybe make you feel a little better.

I am not fighting with you or anyone else. You almost sound like a cop???? You are being ridiculous with your answers to the problem.

No the Commander in Chief needs to figure that out, I do not get paid the big bucks, do you????

Have a nice day done with this post......

[tony]

A few things after reading posts....Chris V, no I have NEVER been pulled over by FPD or any other law enforcement agency. Actually have never even had a speeding ticket.

I am not blaming FPD for the accident, but like any other PD they do petty things and do not really focus on the real things that are going on. Yeah, Folsom is getting a bad rap for the DUI problem or so where are Folsom's Finest anyway......They are on side streets trying to boost up revenue, with trivial, minute things.

They are on side streets because the people who live on those side streets complain about the rampant speeding on those streets because they are concerned about the safety of their children and neighbors. In my book, that's not petty or trivial.

I have seen a numerous speeders on Bidwell, and never see the PD!!!!!!!

I realize it is everyones OWN responsibility to drive and not drink or to drive cautiously, but if we know there are so many drunk drivers out there, why are there not more checkpoints, why are not the bars being checked. Believe me, Folsom has some big issues with this, for a small town.

Living in the HD and having a significant amount of bar traffic going by my house every night, I am aware that the FPD does, indeed, focus on people leaving the bars, particularly near closing when the heavy drinkers are forced to leave. And I'm glad they do.

Also, I watch KCRA 3 every night and they do not even mention Folsom, only barely. They focus on Stockton and Modesto....

As far as this accident the other night. A friend of mine knows an employee who works there and it was a WAR zone. That is as far as I will go with the descriptions, as it is pretty graphic. I am so sorry about that young woman, too. What a tragedy.

So this loser needs to be incarcerated and I still stand by if it had been a weekend night, there would have been fatalities.

More has to be done in Folsom, by someone, as it is really getting to be a unsafe place, with burglaries and drunk drivers and people all know this.

I have no hidden agenda, just want people to do their jobs properly.

As for this incident, the lady did not even get out of the parking lot. What was the FPD to do, have breathalizer checkpoints at every door of every establishment serving liquor in the city? Similarly, the incident on Folsom Blvd. was at 6:45 pm. This is hardly prime time for drunk drivers, even on a Saturday night. Is there more the FPD could do to crack down on drunk driving? Probably, but they sure don't seem to be lax to me, and I can't imagine what they could have done to prevent either of these, other than being lucky and being in the right place at the right time.

[nomad]

I am not fighting with you or anyone else. You almost sound like a cop???? You are being ridiculous with your answers to the problem.

No the Commander in Chief needs to figure that out, I do not get paid the big bucks, do you????

Have a nice day done with this post......

No I am not a cop and my answers were more like satire because they would seem like solutions that you would propose based on your opinions of what a poor job the FPD is doing.

And yeah I get paid pretty big bucks but not to solve DUI problems, I work in a different field. Sorry about that.

[Steve Heard]

I am not blaming FPD for the accident, but like any other PD they do petty things and do not really focus on the real things that are going on. Yeah, Folsom is getting a bad rap for the DUI problem or so where are Folsom's Finest anyway......They are on side streets trying to boost up revenue, with trivial, minute things.

I have seen a numerous speeders on Bidwell, and never see the PD!!!!!!!

I realize it is everyones OWN responsibility to drive and not drink or to drive cautiously, but if we know there are so many drunk drivers out there, why are there not more checkpoints, why are not the bars being checked. Believe me, Folsom has some big issues with this, for a small town.

As far as this accident the other night. A friend of mine knows an employee who works there and it was a WAR zone. That is as far as I will go with the descriptions, as it is pretty graphic. I am so sorry about that young woman, too. What a tragedy.

More has to be done in Folsom, by someone, as it is really getting to be a unsafe place, with burglaries and drunk drivers and people all know this.

I have no hidden agenda, just want people to do their jobs properly.

Mary, in your posts, you simultaneously accuse the cops of harrassing people and writing tickets while ignoring crimes that go on. Do you really think that cops don't want to take on criminals? It's what they live for!

I've had a number of contacts with the Folsom cops, from when my then 13-year old ran away, to when a home I had listed was vandalized, to working with them on parent forums on child drug abuse. They've always been responsive and diligent.

As for Folsom Lake Bowl being a war zone, maybe you should check it out for yourself. Maybe come to one of the myfolsom.com get-togethers there. We just had one a few weeks ago and we all had a great time. You'll find that it is a big sports bar with people generally well-behaved. Yes, where there is alcohol there is potential for alcohol abuse, but this place is no war zone. I'd stay away if it were.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

I understand the frustration when things happen, such as recent events in Folsom with DUIs. But to blame the FPD is just a case of misplaced frustration and blame. I frequently see them pulling over or having just pulled over drivers, but when I don't "see" it, it doesn't mean it isn't happening; I can't be everywhere at all times to see what they do.

The FPD doesn't have unlimited resources to have a patrol officer on every corner or in the parking lot of every bar. To my knowledge, and Irish can correct me if I'm wrong, officers also do not have ESP to anticipate where they should be to prevent crimes.

The big question is how to get people to behavior responsibly and safely, which is pretty difficult when someone already has impaired judgment due to alcohol and/or drug use. I commend Dan for his PAID FOR designated driver program; it's to bad this woman left the bar while FLB tried to arrange a ride for her.

[old soldier]

Dan's paid for drunken driver is a great idea, but I would be afraid the drunk would barf in my car..drunks do that a lot. it would be fun to drive around (sober) late on weekend and watch the cops lay in wait and pounce on the folks trying to get out of town after a night at the honkey tonks bars on sutter street
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One afternood I watched a motor cop stay in his hiding place and swoop out and nail folks floating through a stop sign. I was almost as much fun and watching them shoot deer on the outdoor channel