It should be an easy matter for the police to ask the bank tellers whether they saw, or were threatened with, a gun.
Perhaps they aren't disclosing that info because they don't want a bunch of middle school kids hunting around for a discarded weapon-- or worse, for a younger kid to find it and hurt himself.
Folsom Pd Near Target 5+ police cars,
Started by
5hannon
, Aug 14 2012 04:33 PM
89 replies to this topic
#46
bordercolliefan
-
- Premium Member
-
- 5,596 posts
Hopeless Addict
- Gender:Female
- Location:Natoma Station
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:35 PM
#47
Rich_T
-
- Premium Member
-
- 1,728 posts
Hall Of Famer
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:37 PM
I drove past Wells Fargo at 5:35 (Blue Ravine, left on E. Bidwell), and back again at 5:50 (E. Bidwell, right on Blue Ravine), after buying some ice cream cookies at Trader Joe, as an impulse buy, just to get out of the house. I was none the wiser to all that had just transpired.
It seems like the robber could have left the scene if he had parked a car in the Target lot, for example. Roaming the streets on foot was not a good strategy.
My first thought was "did they really have to shoot him, in order to apprehend him"? But once I read that a screaming family was barricaded in a bedroom, and he was in the vicinity of that room, I can't fault the police for firing on him. The family's safety had to be absolutely protected.
I wonder how the one officer sustained a leg injury. My guess is that he pulled a hamstring when sprinting after the robber - probably not used to that kind of thing. Oh, wait - the article said the leg injury was UNrelated to the apprehension of the suspect. I wonder what that was all about, then - I know it's not the important part of the story, but I always like the peripheral stuff.
It seems like the robber could have left the scene if he had parked a car in the Target lot, for example. Roaming the streets on foot was not a good strategy.
My first thought was "did they really have to shoot him, in order to apprehend him"? But once I read that a screaming family was barricaded in a bedroom, and he was in the vicinity of that room, I can't fault the police for firing on him. The family's safety had to be absolutely protected.
I wonder how the one officer sustained a leg injury. My guess is that he pulled a hamstring when sprinting after the robber - probably not used to that kind of thing. Oh, wait - the article said the leg injury was UNrelated to the apprehension of the suspect. I wonder what that was all about, then - I know it's not the important part of the story, but I always like the peripheral stuff.
#48
4thgenFolsomite
-
- Premium Member
-
- 5,979 posts
Hopeless Addict
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:37 PM
I have heard eye witness accounts from the neighbors where he was killed that he was shooting at the police as he ran.
Knowing the past helps deciphering the future.
#49
ducky
-
- Premium Member
-
- 9,115 posts
untitled
- Gender:Female
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:47 PM
I have heard eye witness accounts from the neighbors where he was killed that he was shooting at the police as he ran.
I haven't heard from eyewitnesses, but someone in the neighborhood said they did hear multiple shots.
#50
4thgenFolsomite
-
- Premium Member
-
- 5,979 posts
Hopeless Addict
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:53 PM
it's funny. what I heard was that the family was in the backyard in their pool when the guy hopped their fence and ran into their house through a backdoor. Most of those houses only have a door going into their garage, not into the back of the house. Anyway, he tried to run through into the front yard when he was confronted by the police and ran back into the house. If what I heard was correct, how did that family all get into the bedroom to lock themselves in?
Knowing the past helps deciphering the future.
#51
jello
-
- Registered Members
-
- 67 posts
Netizen
Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:33 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like the suspect was reaching for or showing something that looked like a gun tucked into his waistband in the third picture? https://i.nixle.com/...45055628-media3
#52
ducky
-
- Premium Member
-
- 9,115 posts
untitled
- Gender:Female
Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:38 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like the suspect was reaching for or showing something that looked like a gun tucked into his waistband in the third picture? https://i.nixle.com/...45055628-media3
It does look like that, but it's hard to tell.
#53
4thgenFolsomite
-
- Premium Member
-
- 5,979 posts
Hopeless Addict
Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:43 PM
why are his arms outstretched in the first one? like he's greeting everyone saying "Hello!"
Knowing the past helps deciphering the future.
#54
Folsom Reader
-
- Registered Members
-
- 28 posts
Netizen
Posted 15 August 2012 - 03:16 PM
The report from the Folsom Police Department does not mention that he was armed, it does say he was shot in the back....
The suspect was trying to get into a locked bedroom where the family had fled when the two officers engaged him in the hallway. As the suspect turned to flee into another bedroom, the Sheriff’s deputy shot the suspect once in the back.
The suspect was trying to get into a locked bedroom where the family had fled when the two officers engaged him in the hallway. As the suspect turned to flee into another bedroom, the Sheriff’s deputy shot the suspect once in the back.
#55
Deb aka Resume Lady
-
- No Politics!
-
- 8,361 posts
Hopeless Addict
- Gender:Female
- Location:Folsom
-
Interests:Sole proprietor: Tailored Resume Services
Volunteer: Court Appointed Special Advocate for a child in the foster care system
Posted 15 August 2012 - 03:20 PM
The report from the Folsom Police Department does not mention that he was armed, it does say he was shot in the back....
The suspect was trying to get into a locked bedroom where the family had fled when the two officers engaged him in the hallway. As the suspect turned to flee into another bedroom, the Sheriff’s deputy shot the suspect once in the back.
Exactly. The part that isn't clear is the line of sight from the officer to the suspect's hands. How "turned" was the suspect? Could the officer tell he wasn't armed or was it too difficult to tell from his angle? If he shot the suspect in the back it's likely the officer couldn't see the suspect's hands, but feared for the safety of family who might be in the other room.
Job Search Consultant
Tailored Resume Services
(916) 984-0855
Volunteer, Court Appointed Special Advocate for Sacramento CASA * I Am for the Child
Making a Difference in the Life of Abused and Neglected Children in Foster Care
http://www.sacramentocasa.org/
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~ Edward Everett Hale
"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." ~ Anne Frank
Tailored Resume Services
(916) 984-0855
Volunteer, Court Appointed Special Advocate for Sacramento CASA * I Am for the Child
Making a Difference in the Life of Abused and Neglected Children in Foster Care
http://www.sacramentocasa.org/
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~ Edward Everett Hale
"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." ~ Anne Frank
#56
folsom500
-
- Moderator
-
- 6,562 posts
Folsom Gardner
- Gender:Male
- Location:Folsom
Posted 15 August 2012 - 03:23 PM
Another great day in the adventure of exploration and sight.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has"
-Margaret Mead-
#57
Rich_T
-
- Premium Member
-
- 1,728 posts
Hall Of Famer
Posted 15 August 2012 - 03:42 PM
Another update
http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2012/08/update-folsom-bank-robbery-suspect-was-shot-by-sacramento-sheriffs-deputy.html#mi_rss=Folsom/El%20Dorado%20News
The story is coming together finally. Makes sense to me.
#58
(MaxineR)
(MaxineR)
-
- Visitors
Posted 15 August 2012 - 04:05 PM
I was wondering if this is some how nature’s way of thinning the herd.
I mean, really, what is there that these punks misunderstand about the command, “STOP!....POLICE!....PUT YOUR HANDS UP!”?
I’ve seen live footage of these thugs running from police, and wondering why they think they won’t get shot. A police officer is yelling, again and again for them to stop, yet they keep on running.
This time, the criminal was shot dead and no doubt, there will be those who say it was uncalled for. Must a criminal have a gun and be pointing it at an officer in order to justify being shot by said officer? Is there some law that says a police officer can not shoot you unless you are aiming a gun at him????? If so, there is little need for the police to yell, “STOP! OR I’LL SHOOT!”.
We seem to see these runners more and more often. The poor police, forced to try and out run these thugs, rather than just shoot them. And while they are running, they scare everybody to death, damage property and endanger more lives.
I say yell three times for them to stop, then shoot their arse. Done, and done.
I mean, really, what is there that these punks misunderstand about the command, “STOP!....POLICE!....PUT YOUR HANDS UP!”?
I’ve seen live footage of these thugs running from police, and wondering why they think they won’t get shot. A police officer is yelling, again and again for them to stop, yet they keep on running.
This time, the criminal was shot dead and no doubt, there will be those who say it was uncalled for. Must a criminal have a gun and be pointing it at an officer in order to justify being shot by said officer? Is there some law that says a police officer can not shoot you unless you are aiming a gun at him????? If so, there is little need for the police to yell, “STOP! OR I’LL SHOOT!”.
We seem to see these runners more and more often. The poor police, forced to try and out run these thugs, rather than just shoot them. And while they are running, they scare everybody to death, damage property and endanger more lives.
I say yell three times for them to stop, then shoot their arse. Done, and done.
#59
olivia
-
- Premium Member
-
- 581 posts
Superstar
- Gender:Male
- Location:folsom
Posted 15 August 2012 - 04:10 PM
At least it was just the idiot that bit the dust. Thank you FPD and I hope that this family gets any and all help and support needed.http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/08/14/officer-fires-at-suspect-during-attempted-bank-robbery-in-folsom/
FOLSOM (CBS13) – A suspect was eventually shot and killed after an attempted bank robbery in Folsom early Tuesday evening.
The robbery attempt occurred at 5:11 p.m. at the Wells Fargo Bank on 1113 East Bidwell St.
The suspect reportedly fled onto the roof of a Target store across the street from the bank and then tried to escape into neighborhood yards before ending up inside a home in the 1300 block of School Road occupied by two adults and two children.
Shots were reportedly fired inside the home. CBS13 Nick Janes reported that the suspect was killed.
Folsom Police Sgt. Jason Browning confirmed the officer-involved shooting but didn’t provide any other details.
#60
Carl G
-
- Premium Member
-
- 1,674 posts
Hall Of Famer
- Gender:Male
Posted 15 August 2012 - 04:24 PM
And a big thanks to Sacramento County Sheriff and Sacramento PD for responding too.At least it was just the idiot that bit the dust. Thank you FPD and I hope that this family gets any and all help and support needed.
While I feel for the criminal's family, I do believe this is a case of thinning of the gene pool.
0 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users
