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[supermom]

I imagine the contract for that tower would not have allowed the proceeds to be used for anything other than a specified object. 

I do have to say it is nice to see the kids excited about school spirit and school pride. I like the tone the coaches are setting for the year. Unifying the teams under one color so to speak. I have no idea what the condition of the turf was like before the remodel but I imagine it was about time. Folsom HS has consistently churned out excellent players that are sought out around the US. Attracting more scouts will help more students get more scholarships. Therefore, I'm all for turning the field blue.

[Rich_T]

I think you have a misplaced decimal point Rich

 

Original Theater & Staudium Cost: $11.6 M

2013 Turf replacement: $1.2 M

 

 

Oops, right you are... I remembered "12", but indeed it's $1.2 million.  Still a hefty chunk of change, of course.

[Rich_T]

I'm all for turning the field blue.

 

It seemed fun to me at first glance, but knowing that it cost $1.2 million is still pretty sobering, especially given all the years of budget horror stories.

[nomad]

Turning the field blue will have no impact on attracting scouts or talent. It's a self indulgent waste of money plain and simple.

[dimeracer]

Why would a blue replacement surface cost more than a green one? Are we sure that this is the case? If it's not actually the case, than are we questioning whether the field was actually in need of replacement, and also whether we went with the cheapest bid? I'm guessing that when you decide to install a synthetic field or running track, that you also accept that there is a pre-determined lifespan to the surface, so you budget for a replacement at some point down the road. Maybe some are questioning whether or not we should have a football program with all of the budget cuts?

[Judge Smails]

Given the amount of waste at the district office and the bait and switch they pulled to get the new district office built, I question the districts decision making ability. Unfortunately, in the last election board members ran unoppsed. As with the city council incumbents always get reelected. Again, keep this in mind when the district tries to pass a bond measure next year.

[ducky]

Why would a blue replacement surface cost more than a green one? Are we sure that this is the case? If it's not actually the case, than are we questioning whether the field was actually in need of replacement, and also whether we went with the cheapest bid? I'm guessing that when you decide to install a synthetic field or running track, that you also accept that there is a pre-determined lifespan to the surface, so you budget for a replacement at some point down the road. Maybe some are questioning whether or not we should have a football program with all of the budget cuts?

 

I noticed the difference in costs between the school budgets.  I don't know what accounts for the difference so I merely posed the question if the color was the reason.  cw68 did a little research and found a different color does cost more, which would make sense because it seems you would sell more green turf and a custom color would be special order.

 

If the turf was scheduled to be replaced and there was no cost difference, then it just boils down to personal preference if you do or don't like the blue.  If there is that much of a price difference, I don't think that was being very responsible.  I'm sure they could have taken the difference and found more practical things to do even though that's how the funds were originally earmarked.  How much do bleachers cost?  I'm not saying this is the case, but what if they could have had both? 

 

School spirit should come from the inside.  I think Bulldogs were already doing fine in that department.

[AMETHYST PRODUCTIVITY]

My daughter is a student at FHS. Trust me, the kids couldn't care less about what color the field is. 

[dimeracer]

Turning the field blue will have no impact on attracting scouts or talent. It's a self indulgent waste of money plain and simple.

I did my own quick Google search, and found that there are A.) Several different grades of turf available, and B.) several different colors of turf available. The cost of the color within the same grade is the same regardless of color, including green. I also found that these turf materials have a lifespan of 10-15 years when used outside, and depending on useage and the harshness of the elements (weather). The sellers of this material claim cost to be the biggest advantage over real grass.

[supermom]

I was actually wondering if turf is cheaper in the long run. When you start talking about maintenance, seeding, watering, (draining in the winter), and repairing after each game (especially mud). 

 

What is the likelihood that during a skirmish a player will rip turf the way a player will rip up grass?

[dimeracer]

I remember the long run cost savings was given as the reason for converting the Livermore field to synthetic turf. I've watched a lot of football, and I don't think I've ever seen synthetic turf damaged or ripped as a result of play on the field. I did see a section being repaired once at Livermore. I don't know how it got damaged.

[asbestoshills]

I would like more transparency of the schools in general. For example, the track at FHS is suppose to be open to the public, yet is locked everyday after school even though I have called multiple times to have it opened. They oblige and then a few days later start locking it up. I pay for monthly mello roos and if I want to use that track I should be allowed to. In addition, if the blue turf was installed without proper approval, someone should be fired. Why aren't there bleachers at Vista? If developers are paying for the school, why weren't they included with the price? These developers get away with murder if you ask me. They promise XYZ and then deliver half the goods. This is why many neighborhoods in Prairie Oaks were subjected to an additional Mello Roos and now that they have the money they still don't install the necessities for the school. Look at FHS, the landscape is horrible and it already looks like the maintenance is lacking and this is a top rated school. Where is all the money? The poorer schools in Rancho have more money then they know what to do with it b/c of the Title one status. The reverse is happening in Folsom. The students pay through the nose for everything while their supposedly poorer neighbors in Rancho get the same things free. From free instruments, to field trips to different programs not offered in Folsom, but Rancho. The district should be fair in its spending.

[asbestoshills]

Btw, why is there a cell phone tower on campus? Isn't that a health issue or does no one care as long as the school gets money?

[ducky]

If I'm reading this right, it looks like maybe the Folsom HS field had more extensive work than the Cordova HS field.  I'm not sure why one requires this and the other doesn't, but it might explain the difference in price for the work.  They had something called CUSHdrain installed that is supposed to extend the life of the field.  

 

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[Judge Smails]

FHS is very possessive of their track. Sutter approached them about having their track meets there. FHS "allowed" it once and then said no.