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#46 TruthSeeker

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 04:38 PM

 

One problem with that is that many of our historic assets are hours of operation.

 

The Powerhouse visitor center website says to contact the park for hours.  I made the mistake of dropping by and found it closed. 

 

Pioneer Village is only open 4 hours a day. I remember taking visitors there a couple of years ago and it was locked when it was supposed to be open. 

 

Folsom History Museum, open 5 hours a day. 

 

The Wells Fargo Assay building has a beautiful granite and iron storefront, but it is apparently permanently closed.

 

The antique rail car is only open Saturdays and Sundays.

 

Although some of the antique stores are gone, it was not unusual to go to Sutter and find them closed, because the owner felt like it.

 

How do you promote that? "Come to Historic Folsom, and hope we're open!"

 

That is something the city council should address and resolve.


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Posted 17 April 2015 - 08:53 AM

typically when I am going somewhere to visit a museum or historic site, I check their website for hours.  promotion means to plant the seed, not provide all the details.  if more people come, I can guarantee those venues would be open more.  on the flip side, museums don't need to keep restaurant or store hours.  they are an attraction.  you plan a visit around them.  so you see when they are open, you visit and then you shop and eat at restaurants nearby. 

 

we are planning a Heritage Lollapolooza on May 2, Saturday, 10 am to 2 pm, where all venues have something special going on and are either free or reduced price to get in. 

 

by the way, Steve, when was the last time you were in the museum?  you say the wells fargo assay building is always closed, but its really open whenever the museum is open.  its a part of it.  They have to control entry, so people come in through the museum front doors and the changing exhibits are inside the assay building. 

 

I appreciate that input, but the website(s) and hours don't match or don't exist. As I said, the Powerhouse tells you to contact the park for hours, and I've showed up at other venues that were supposed to be open and weren't. 

 

Will the museums be open more often and for longer hours if people show up, or will more people show up if the museum is open more often? 

 

I spoke with Mary Mast, and she added that the Historical Society, which runs some of these venues is a non-profit and gets no city funds, and is largely staffed by volunteers. Many of the volunteers are retirees, and if they aren't feeling well or have other things going on, they won't make it and they may not have replacements.

 

I don't criticize them for what they are doing. I value it tremendously. I am just pointing out that it is difficult to market and promote it when we can't always know or rely on their schedules. 

 

I'm aware of the May 2 event and will be promoting it next week on myfolsom and on our Facebook page. 

 

As for the Assay office, I know they use the building, I'm talking about opening the storefront. It would be so inviting.

 

There's no sign indicating that it is open as part of the museum. Again, speaking with Mary, she said that when they put up signs, they get stolen, and for security and other reasons, they can't use those doors. I now get that.   

 

 

That is something the city council should address and resolve.

 

I wish they could. There really isn't much funding for arts and culture in our town. We had proposed imposing a fee on developers, or increasing transient occupancy tax (hotel tax) as funding sources, but any increases are frowned upon. 


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:27 AM

I'm all for imposing more fees on developers to get funds for our city's art and culture programs.

The city council needs to stop cutting deals and giving so many breaks and concessions to their developer buddies.

That 300 mil for pipe repairs should not have been discounted to 90 for the good ol boy deal.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:36 AM

 

We do have a tourism bureau.  I believe they are funded by the hotel tax.

 

pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2014_06_EO/68-0451036_990O_201306.pdf

 

and

faqs.org/tax-exempt/CA/Folsom-Tourism-Bureau.html

 

 

 

 

Ducky,   interesting documentation you linked.

 

Especially interesting are the articles of incorporation which are NEITHER signed nor dated properly.

 

Gagliardi signed a 2012 tax document, but that is solely for the HD BID -- which is NOT city's  Hotel Tax which collects over $2.1 million per year.     The use of "hotel tax" is generally thought to refer to the CA-permitted tax which the city began collecting in late 1980's.     The BID is a questionable document, to put it mildly.     (HD BID is a crock.)    But focus on the certifications when you see these documents:   check dates, signatures, and seals of Public Filing of Documents.

 

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Sometimes people don't even realize what they have located --   and what it pretends to be --  and what it it NOT!

 

 

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:56 AM

 

 

 

 

Ducky,   interesting documentation you linked.

 

Especially interesting are the articles of incorporation which are NEITHER signed nor dated properly.

 

Gagliardi signed a 2012 tax document, but that is solely for the HD BID -- which is NOT city's  Hotel Tax which collects over $2.1 million per year.     The use of "hotel tax" is generally thought to refer to the CA-permitted tax which the city began collecting in late 1980's.     The BID is a questionable document, to put it mildly.     (HD BID is a crock.)    But focus on the certifications when you see these documents:   check dates, signatures, and seals of Public Filing of Documents.

 

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Sometimes people don't even realize what they have located --   and what it pretends to be --  and what it it NOT!

 

 

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The figures I found for the TOT (Transient Occupancy Tax) is 8 % of gross receipts.  For FY12 they collected $1,235.646 - FY13 was $1,200,000, and FY14 was estimated at $1,273,119.

I don't know where that money goes, nor why the numbers went down instead of up considering we have more hotel rooms now.

 

The FTBID began in 2002 and was 2% to start and then was raised to 4% at some later time.  It was formed solely to promote tourism and couldn't be used for general fund purposes.  FY13 budget was around $350,000 and proposed for FY14 was $655,000.



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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:08 AM

what is the FTBID?  is that the tourism BID?  that is different from the HD PBID


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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:21 AM

typically when I am going somewhere to visit a museum or historic site, I check their website for hours.  promotion means to plant the seed, not provide all the details.  if more people come, I can guarantee those venues would be open more.  on the flip side, museums don't need to keep restaurant or store hours.  they are an attraction.  you plan a visit around them.  so you see when they are open, you visit and then you shop and eat at restaurants nearby. 

 

we recently organized a small group called Folsom Area Museums (FAM) because we have some great resources here.  This includes the powerhouse, the prison, the historic railroad, the history museum, pioneer village and the Murer House.  we are planning a Heritage Lollapolooza on May 2, Saturday, 10 am to 2 pm, where all venues have something special going on and are either free or reduced price to get in. 

 

by the way, Steve, when was the last time you were in the museum?  you say the wells fargo assay building is always closed, but its really open whenever the museum is open.  its a part of it.  They have to control entry, so people come in through the museum front doors and the changing exhibits are inside the assay building. 

Well- I dont know about that--

I was recently down at one of the museums on sutter. 

They announced they were closing more than an hour early (they are only open four hours!)

I politely stated that the sign says the museum hours are posted

and the person politely told me that they are closing-it is up to them to make the hours-and they have paying people coming to take a class.

yeah. 

People in another group that were ushered out were from canada. I dont think they are gonna get another opportunity any time soon to come back when the museum may or may not be open.



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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:21 AM

what is the FTBID?  is that the tourism BID?  that is different from the HD PBID

 

Sorry.  It's the Folsom Tourism Business Improvement District.  I don't know what the HD PBID is.

 

Edit:  I looked it up and it looks like the HD PBID is something the HD businesses are assessed and contribute to.  It adds up to about $126,000 per year.



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Posted 21 April 2015 - 12:25 PM

I miss Doug Udel. I wish he'd have won a council seat. He argued that we meet the state's low income / high density housing requirement at Folsom prison.

 

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 05:53 PM

I miss Doug Udel. I wish he'd have won a council seat. He argued that we meet the state's low income / high density housing requirement at Folsom prison.

 

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I miss Doug too.  Nice guy. 


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