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#46 UncleVinnys

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 06:32 AM

Like I've said, and it's obvious in recent posts . . .

The underlying motivation in gun buying is that the buyer feels weak, vulnerable, and powerless.

Why else would they purchase hardware to help "level the playing field?"

 

Note all the references to the "bad guys" - the rapists, the invaders.   :grrr:

Ohhh! They must deserve to be shot!                                                               :BNANADANCE:    :shoot:

Now you have a "good reason to kill," aye!??         :CHARLIEBROWNCLOUD:

These weaklings shudder at the thought that someone is gonna "take my guns away."

How pathetic!              :boohoo: 

Meanwhile, their thousands of dollars invested in hardware sits on a shelf.

Simply Stupid. Unless of course you can dream up a way to use it.

 

Let's see - maybe the Revenuers are a-comin!                                                     :blush:         :shoot:

Maybe the libs are trying to take my guns away!                                                  :peaceman:        :shoot: 

Maybe the world economy is going to collapse and I have to protect myself.  :huhwhat:            :shoot: 

 

See the fear?

 

 


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:22 AM

It blows me away that when a lib goes on a mass killing spree, it's the dems who cry for more and more and more and more gun control.  That shrill Hillary was a major c word for instantly blaming the NRA and Trump for the Vegas killer and so are all libs who blame them as well. What is wrong with you people? Seriously!

 

 

Well said, Dave, but we're not going to change the minds of brainwashed, ideological, hardcore Commie Leftists. They have been indoctrinated for so long, they don't know which end is up. They have a circular argument that is almost childlike. For all intents and purposes, the Vegas killer was a normal man with no criminal background. If people like that suddenly want to do something heinous, not much you can do about it. If he didn't use guns, he'd have used another method. We have come to find out he was another one of those deranged, unhinged anti-Trump Libtards like we have here on this forum. The mere mention of *Trump* sends them spinning like a top. It's a bizarre childishness like we've never seen before, and if you ask me, if this is where American politics is headed, then HELL YES we need guns. And we won't be afraid to use 'em if our lives, freedoms, and rights are threatened. And as for the foaming-at-the-mouth anti-2A clowns on this forum like UncleBernie and his side-kick 'asshat' :

 

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:53 AM

Like I've said, and it's obvious in recent posts . . .

The underlying motivation in gun buying is that the buyer feels weak, vulnerable, and powerless.

  

These weaklings shudder at the thought that someone is gonna "take my guns away."

How pathetic!             

 

Well Tio Vinny, count the "weaklings" here in the list below......  Yes they were weak, vulnerable, and powerless because they were disarmed by their governments before they were put into camps, prisons, tortured, starved, raped, and murdered.  My God, human history is lost on the left....!  Chris

 

Table 1: The 20th Century Collectivist Death Toll

 

Collectivist Regime, Religion, Millions Murdered, Period

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Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] Atheist 61.911 Millions Murdered, 1917-1987
Chinese Communists [PRC] Atheist 35.236 Millions Murdered, 1949-1987
German (National) Socialists [Nazis] Pagan 20.946 Millions Murdered, 1933-1945
China (Mao Soviets) Atheist 3.466 Millions Murdered, 1923-1949
Cambodian Communists Atheist 2.035 Millions Murdered, 1975-1979
Vietnamese Communists Atheist 1.670 
Millions Murdered,1945-1987

Polish Communists Atheist 1.585 Millions Murdered,1945-1948

Yugoslavian Socialists Atheist 1.072 Millions Murdered,1944-1987

North Korean Communists Atheist 1.663 Millions Murdered1948-1987

 

Grand Total 129.6 Millions Murdered.....!

 

Notes
A. Figures do not include war dead.

 

http://www.savagelef...m/poli/mbc.html

 


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#49 ghost35me

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:25 AM

Would the liberals have the USA completely eliminate its military?  Let's get rid of the military, the bombs, the guns. Why not? Let's just show ISIS love and I'm sure we'll all live peacefully together.

 

No?  You don't want to be attacked by them? Not convinced that love will conquer?  

 

Guess what snowflake, same with us against you.  I will not subject myself to your misguided, idiotic beliefs.  If you had power, I have no doubt you would do me harm.  The left is already raping me with taxes and fees.  Try to take my rights and you have a fight.



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 02:22 PM

 

Read my words carefully.  I didn't say you were lying.  I said I didn't believe you.  There IS a difference.   If I say you're lying, the burden is on you.  If I say I don't believe you, the burden is on me.

 

And lose the epithets.  they're not characteristic of you.

 

Call me old school, but where I'm from, if you ask someone a question about themselves and they reply thoughtfully and you then insult their integrity, it is worthy of an epithet... at a minimum

 

 

The underlying motivation in gun buying is that the buyer feels weak, vulnerable, and powerless.

Why else would they purchase hardware to help "level the playing field?"

 

Maybe that is why female gun ownership is skyrocketing. Would you deny them something to equalize the playing field?  BTW, YOU do not get to decide what each person feels is appropriate to defend themselves.

 

You whole supposition is off base. I purchased my guns as tools. Just as I would an alarm system, or an insurance policy.  The difference is that I do not rely on the government for my perceived safety. I rely upon myself. That is not "weak, vulnerable and powerless," that is true inner strength. People like you would disarm women on campuses and instead tell them to do this when being raped (actual list from U of Colorado). Note that nowhere is the idea of defending yourself addressed. Instead, it reads like a "how to be a better victim" message...

 

What To Do If You Are Attacked

These tips are designed to help you protect yourself on campus, in town, at your home, or while you travel. These are preventative tips and are designed to instruct you in crime prevention tactics.

Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.
 

Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.
 

OK, I'm on board with this. Pepper spray or a personal alarm would be better.

 

Kick off your shoes if you have time and can’t run in them.
 

Seriously?

 

Don’t take time to look back; just get away.

 

Somebody has been watching too many horror movies. Situational awareness is key.
 

If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.

 

WTF? That may work with bears, but wow, just wow. How about if your life is in danger, try to maim or kill the attacker? Preferably with your concealed weapon of choice.
 

Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating

 

Yeah, that will deter a rapist. Maybe he'll go away until next week. Good freaking grief.
 

Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.

 

Yeah, that's the strategy I'm going with. About as effective as "loving your neighbor." Good chance of pissing him off as well
 

Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!

 

OK! Now we're talking. Lay some hurt on that MF-er!
 

Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm.

 

And non action on your part might lead to more harm as well. Seriously, don't accept the role of victim.
 

Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.

 

How about you get rid of gun free zones on campus so that they can protect themselves how they feel most appropriate?


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis

 

If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous

 

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)

 


#51 Who_Do_You_Trust

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:03 PM

 

Call me old school, but where I'm from, if you ask someone a question about themselves and they reply thoughtfully and you then insult their integrity, it is worthy of an epithet... at a minimum

 

 

 

 

Call me older school, but where I'm from, launching the epithet is the insult to your integrity.  

 

Look, you don't believe a lot of what I say.  I'm not offended by it.  In fact, I applaud your right to believe what you wish.  Not only that, I will defend your right to believe what you wish.  Not only that, I swore to defend your right to believe what you wish with my life.  It happened when I joined the Navy a zillion years ago and swore to defend the constitution.  So, don't give me that "You insulted my integrity and I'm offended" BS.  Makes you sound like a liberal.



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:05 PM

*Yawn*. When Joe labeled you as our forum's *Asshat*, he was spot-on. And wise-up... you and UncleBernie need to be consistent... If Trump is so dangerous, as you old paranoid fools allege, then we need to allow ALL people to arm themselves with a bunch of guns to at least TRY to protect themselves from an "Oppressive Trump Totalitarian Govt Regime", right?   Oh... I hear crickets..

 

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:10 PM

 It happened when I joined the Navy a zillion years ago and swore to defend the constitution.

 

Yeah, right.   " I don't believe you ".   See how that works?  If you had *any* class, you'd apologize to Joe for calling him a liar.  Are you man enough?   Doubtful. 



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:08 PM

Once again, since you on the left ignore facts.   Some facts.  Who_Dem and Tio Vinny, still ignore this data, not see it, not agree with it....?    Ignoring it does not make it not true.  Any counter facts to these numbers.....?    If you have them please let us know...!   Is this not the truth....?   Are the numbers off....?   Please enlighten us, or just grace us with your opinion....   Chris

 

Table 1: The 20th Century Collectivist Death Toll

Collectivist Regime, Religion, Millions Murdered, Period
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] Atheist 61.911 Millions Murdered, 1917-1987
Chinese Communists [PRC] Atheist 35.236 Millions Murdered, 1949-1987
German (National) Socialists [Nazis] Pagan 20.946 Millions Murdered, 1933-1945
China (Mao Soviets) Atheist 3.466 Millions Murdered, 1923-1949
Cambodian Communists Atheist 2.035 Millions Murdered, 1975-1979
Vietnamese Communists Atheist 1.670 Millions Murdered,1945-1987
Polish Communists Atheist 1.585 Millions Murdered,1945-1948
Yugoslavian Socialists Atheist 1.072 Millions Murdered,1944-1987
North Korean Communists Atheist 1.663 Millions Murdered, 1948-1987

Grand Total 129.6 Millions Murdered.....!

Notes
A. Figures do not include war dead.

http://www.savagelef...m/poli/mbc.html


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 08:54 AM

 

Look, you don't believe a lot of what I say.  I'm not offended by it.  In fact, I applaud your right to believe what you wish.  Not only that, I will defend your right to believe what you wish.  Not only that, I swore to defend your right to believe what you wish with my life.  It happened when I joined the Navy a zillion years ago and swore to defend the constitution.  So, don't give me that "You insulted my integrity and I'm offended" BS.  Makes you sound like a liberal.

 

1) Don't want you to defend my rights. I can defend them myself just fine.  What you want is to remove my ability to defend my rights.  That's not acceptable and not wanted

2) I don't need you to defend my ability to believe in something.  Screw that, thank you very much.  I want to exercise my beliefs and my rights, not just have a belief.  What the hell does it mean to believe in my rights but not be able to exercise them?  Is that some screwy liberal logic that is an acceptable outcome for you guys?

 

If you are for gun control, you are no longer defending the constitution.  The 2A was not a grant but an affirmation.  Forget laws and countries and social / political constructs. If you believe in gun control, you're basically saying that we shouldn't have arms to protect against bears or cougars if I want to take a walk in the woods.  You want to remove the ability for self defense; you want to forgo life and liberty.  Fine for you. Not fine for me.



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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:59 AM

 

1) Don't want you to defend my rights. I can defend them myself just fine.  What you want is to remove my ability to defend my rights.  That's not acceptable and not wanted

2) I don't need you to defend my ability to believe in something.  Screw that, thank you very much.  I want to exercise my beliefs and my rights, not just have a belief.  What the hell does it mean to believe in my rights but not be able to exercise them?  Is that some screwy liberal logic that is an acceptable outcome for you guys?

 

If you are for gun control, you are no longer defending the constitution.  The 2A was not a grant but an affirmation.  Forget laws and countries and social / political constructs. If you believe in gun control, you're basically saying that we shouldn't have arms to protect against bears or cougars if I want to take a walk in the woods.  You want to remove the ability for self defense; you want to forgo life and liberty.  Fine for you. Not fine for me.

 

Ghost - Sorry, I will carry out my sworn duty whether you like it or not.  Were you ever in the military?  Have you ever sworn to carry out a task?  I was in the Navy during Vietnam and I have already defended your constitutional rights.  What are you going to do now?  Hunt me down and punch me in the face?

 

BTW - in case you missed it, I own a firearm.  But I challenge the idea that you can purchase a semi-auto, and then for another $50 turn it into a full auto.  If you think that's part of the 2A, then you better check the news.  The NRA doesn't even agree with you.



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Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:12 AM

Phony soldier. Also, the bump stocks will be banned soon, so quit whining. Also, they went on the market under a Dem administration. Hypocrites, just like you. Follow The Money !!

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:18 PM

 

Ghost - Sorry, I will carry out my sworn duty whether you like it or not.  Were you ever in the military?  Have you ever sworn to carry out a task?  I was in the Navy during Vietnam and I have already defended your constitutional rights.  What are you going to do now?  Hunt me down and punch me in the face?

 

BTW - in case you missed it, I own a firearm.  But I challenge the idea that you can purchase a semi-auto, and then for another $50 turn it into a full auto.  If you think that's part of the 2A, then you better check the news.  The NRA doesn't even agree with you.

Who_dem, Thanks for serving during Vietnam.  I honor you guys who went.  I missed it by a good 8 years or so.

 

And I think bump stocks are stupid and should be banned because they essentially make a semi auto a full auto, a very inaccurate full auto I might say.

If you want a full auto, pay the tax, get ok'd by the BATF, buy the weapon (a good $15K at least to maybe $25K for a Thompson, which I have always wanted...) and knock yourself out.  

 

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 02:15 PM

 

Ghost - Sorry, I will carry out my sworn duty whether you like it or not.  Were you ever in the military?  Have you ever sworn to carry out a task?  I was in the Navy during Vietnam and I have already defended your constitutional rights.  What are you going to do now?  Hunt me down and punch me in the face?

 

BTW - in case you missed it, I own a firearm.  But I challenge the idea that you can purchase a semi-auto, and then for another $50 turn it into a full auto.  If you think that's part of the 2A, then you better check the news.  The NRA doesn't even agree with you.

 

You may have served.  That gives you no right to limit my rights.  You have may have defended the constitution at one point in your life.  But it seems you don't defend it today.

 

Yea, your second statement really shows you understand the 2A and want to defend it and my rights.   Why would I want to hunt you down and punch you? Where did that come from? I only indicated I have no desire for you to pretend to defend my rights when your actual intent is to limit it.  Liberals -- always looking to fight and turn to violence at the first disagreement. Typical.

 

Sorry, you may be a vet and that affords you some respect and benefit of doubt.  However, you've abused that benefit and seem no different from the rest of the Left. You own a firearm? That's what should make me believe you support the 2A? Sorry. Not enough.



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Posted 07 October 2017 - 02:49 PM

 

You may have served.  That gives you no right to limit my rights.  You have may have defended the constitution at one point in your life.  But it seems you don't defend it today.

 

Yea, your second statement really shows you understand the 2A and want to defend it and my rights.   Why would I want to hunt you down and punch you? Where did that come from? I only indicated I have no desire for you to pretend to defend my rights when your actual intent is to limit it.  Liberals -- always looking to fight and turn to violence at the first disagreement. Typical.

 

Sorry, you may be a vet and that affords you some respect and benefit of doubt.  However, you've abused that benefit and seem no different from the rest of the Left. You own a firearm? That's what should make me believe you support the 2A? Sorry. Not enough.

 

I respect your right to believe what you wish.  It's what I fought for.







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