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[Eric]

If you're referring to a four-way stop on a street where bike lanes are present, those in the bike lane are required to stop just as if they are a vehicle. So, no, it's not common courtesy, it's the law that cyclists obey the rules of the road just as vehicles do.

I wasn't.

[petro]

Some problems with bicycles on trails can be solved with bicycles going the posted speed limit. Very few on the AR Parkway go the posted limit. Bike commuting and use is only going to grow so we need to learn how to peacefull coexist with these users. Some unique use of different intersections (Round-a-bouts) help sometimes with traffic. Other encounters with walkers and parents with strollers, well, you have to be on the alert when going around curves where most problems jump out at you.

[aztransplant]

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[s0479]

I haven't yet tried it out on the Natoma Lake trail. I'll have to try again when I go there and see if it works out any better. At least it seems as if the trail might be a bit wider there . . . or, that may be an optical illusion . . . who knows.

I walk/jog on the trail by Lake Natoma and most of the walkers and joggers are on the left (at least when I'm there!)

[TwoWheels]

Some problems with bicycles on trails can be solved with bicycles going the posted speed limit. Very few on the AR Parkway go the posted limit. Bike commuting and use is only going to grow so we need to learn how to peacefull coexist with these users. Some unique use of different intersections (Round-a-bouts) help sometimes with traffic. Other encounters with walkers and parents with strollers, well, you have to be on the alert when going around curves where most problems jump out at you.

The problem is that there are too many blind corners to even ride the posted
speed limit. Even worse, most of the curves seem to be on the hilly sections
where one is tempted to make up time!

The curves appear to have been designed to be an attractive recreational trail
and are therefore not conducive to transportation use. Being as there's not
really a good alternate route for cyclists who need to leave Folsom these users
with mutually exclusive needs collide {figuratively, I hope!}.

[aztransplant]

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[ducky]

So, it happened again last night - except I got the added treat of a man riding bikes with his kids YELLING at me to "get on the right side of the trail, you idiot!" Once again, I saw NOT ONE walker or jogger to the left of the trail and all bikers were on the right. I thought I was going to get myself killed. So, my theory is that until there are posted signs along the Parkway trails indicating who is supposed to be where, I'm going to go with the majority and jog on the right-hand side of the trail. Watch, next time I'll get yelled at by someone who thinks I should be on the left! Sigh . . . Maybe I should just stay away from the Parkway area. Anyone notice how unfriendly a lot of the people are on those trails anyway? Can't even nod and smile . . . I smile and say, "hi" and they look at me like I'm a freak show. Can't wait 'til it cools down during the day again so I can jog along the Natoma Lake trail on my lunch hour. Better experience all around over there.

I can't believe somebody yelled at you. That's terrible. I always jog on the right side and have never had a problem. I don't understand the dilemma for a bide rider. When they come up on a slower bide rider do they yell at them, too? No, you go around. What's the big deal?

I've also run into those people that won't say hi or good morning. I don't get it. Even if I'm at the end of my jog and really out of breath I at least get out a little wave or head nod.

[bishmasterb]

So, it happened again last night - except I got the added treat of a man riding bikes with his kids YELLING at me to "get on the right side of the trail, you idiot!" Once again, I saw NOT ONE walker or jogger to the left of the trail and all bikers were on the right. I thought I was going to get myself killed. So, my theory is that until there are posted signs along the Parkway trails indicating who is supposed to be where, I'm going to go with the majority and jog on the right-hand side of the trail. Watch, next time I'll get yelled at by someone who thinks I should be on the left! Sigh . . . Maybe I should just stay away from the Parkway area. Anyone notice how unfriendly a lot of the people are on those trails anyway? Can't even nod and smile . . . I smile and say, "hi" and they look at me like I'm a freak show. Can't wait 'til it cools down during the day again so I can jog along the Natoma Lake trail on my lunch hour. Better experience all around over there.

This is so inconsistent with my experience.

I've run hundreds of miles on the Parkway trails and never once had any sort of confrontation that I can recall. The overwhelming majority of people that I say "hi" to while running smile and say "hi" back.