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Ms. Teaz: Lingerie Shop on Sutter Street


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#691 Steve Heard

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Posted 18 November 2004 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE(nomoser @ Nov 18 2004, 09:00 AM)
Why would you post something like this?  What do you know about tessieca, or about anyone on this forum for that matter?  I see that you oppose drug dealing.  I suppose, then, that drug dealers would be justified in calling you a never happy person who wishes to impose your unhappiness on others.  Or do you oppose driving while under the influence?  Then you must be a "no drinks" never happy person ...  Ridiculous, right?  How about sexually explicit programming and nudity on network television during prime time when kids are watching?  I guess anyone who opposes that would have to be another of your "no sex" never happy people. 

I happen to be one of the people who did not want Ms. Teaz to open and who felt comfortable expressing my constitutionally protected opinion about it on this forum.  Now that it is open, you won't see me down there throwing rocks through the window or using threats or anything else to try and drive them out.  But you won't see me shopping there, either.  And yet (gasp), I am a happily married man who is still very much in love with my wife, and am very happy to boot.  Go figure!

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You are correct in one respect (hey, that rhymes), by calling out DK on the personal attack. DK, we try to disagree without getting personal. Tessieca is a concerned citizen who puts a lot of time in the community. I happen to disagree with her on this subject.

Where I disagree with you is that while drug abusers do think that those of us who oppose it are uptight, have no fun, and don't want anyone else to, either, unlike drug abuse and drunk driving, corsets, lingerie, body paints, books on what women really want, and gag gifts are all legal.

I've said it before, but one of the higher ups in the city (no, not the mayor) said that the Dufours mistake was to be up front and honest about their business. Since they aren't doing anything illegal, they should not have revealed the fact that they had a back room for adult novelties and such. That way, instead of a protest to keep them from opening, a few people would be saying, "Have you been to that new place on Sutter? They've got this back room..." A few might contact the city to see if they were legally allowed to sell such products, and would be assured that it was.

Instead, they were up front and wanted to show everyone that they weren't selling anything harmful, and a few people started accusing them of the opposite.


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Posted 18 November 2004 - 09:56 AM

QUOTE(stevethedad @ Nov 18 2004, 09:53 AM)
Where I disagree with you is that while drug abusers do think that those of us who oppose it are uptight, have no fun, and don't want anyone else to, either, unlike drug abuse and drunk driving, corsets, lingerie, body paints, books on what women really want, and gag gifts are all legal.

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Actually, no disagreement here. I threw in the example of explicit programming on television because the first two examples are about illegal behavior. Fair catch.



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Posted 18 November 2004 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE(mylo @ Nov 17 2004, 04:10 PM)
tessieca,

I live in Folsom, and last I heard that makes me a resident.  Please be sure to clarify when stating the opinion of Folsom residents that you really just mean "you and your friends"

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I don't have any friends. I would say it's just me; however, there must be several others since Ms. Teaz keeps calling us names.

QUOTE(Dkmarkum @ Nov 17 2004, 10:08 PM)
It does appear that people such as "tessieca" do fall into what the talk show defined as "no sex" never happy people who wish to impose their unhappiness on others. 

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Okay, now you're trying to make it personal. I refuse to start discussing my personal sex life on a forum, but I will say I am FAR from unhappy, and I do not wish unhappiness on anyone.

I do have a right to state my opinion (and I fully believe I should be able to without being personally attacked). I have a right to fight for or against things that I see as a benefit or detriment to the community. So, back off!
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Posted 18 November 2004 - 12:27 PM

RE: Name calling.... She is "Ms tease" after all...

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Posted 18 November 2004 - 01:35 PM

You're 100% right, tessieca. And, from what I know about you, you're far from unhappy.

Some people seem to think that partaking of all the sleaze, trash, and just stupid stuff that marketers and Hollywood throw at us is the key to happiness. I think that people who lap this stuff up are the ones who are most unhappy in the end -- because they are never satisfied, they are always looking for the next thing. True happiness is to be found in enjoyment of family, other people, and the beauty of the earth.

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Posted 18 November 2004 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE(nomoser @ Nov 18 2004, 09:00 AM)
I happen to be one of the people who did not want Ms. Teaz to open and who felt comfortable expressing my constitutionally protected opinion about it on this forum.  Now that it is open, you won't see me down there throwing rocks through the window or using threats or anything else to try and drive them out.  But you won't see me shopping there, either.  And yet (gasp), I am a happily married man who is still very much in love with my wife, and am very happy to boot.  Go figure!

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Posted 18 November 2004 - 03:14 PM

Don't believe we've called anyone names (on the contrary - we've been called names from day one); hence, if someone does feel we have - our most sincere appologies. Everyone is most definately welcome to their opinions. However, there are many (and people continue to think we're pointing at "Folsom" rather then the "bad apples") who continue to forcably impose their beliefs and values upon others. We would never have considered, shared or opened our dream up to Folsom if we felt that "Folsom" was not deserving of us.

Our best wishes

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Posted 18 November 2004 - 03:45 PM

Whew! I feel so much better now that I know that I/this town were deemed worthy and deserving of Ms Teaz's establishment.

And we thought we were worried about accepting her....

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Posted 18 November 2004 - 09:25 PM

QUOTE(Dkmarkum @ Nov 17 2004, 10:08 PM)
It does appear that people such as "tessieca" do fall into what the talk show defined as "no sex" never happy people who wish to impose their unhappiness on others.

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From what I hear, Tessieca has plenty of "high quality sex" and is very happy. tongue.gif

I appreciate the opportunity to alleviate your concerns, Dkmarkum.

Thanks, I'll be here all week. joker.gif

I stopped looking at this topic weeks ago. Get a life, people! You can start by going to this great new store on Sutter Street I just heard about..........

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 11:47 AM

We've gotta keep this thing going. I want to see if the Forum can handle 50 pages in 1 thread smile.gif
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Posted 19 November 2004 - 11:57 AM

I think it's the most popular thread we've ever had. The library snafu was pretty big but this appears to have beat that some time ago.


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Posted 19 November 2004 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE(dave @ Nov 18 2004, 09:25 PM)

I stopped looking at this topic weeks ago. 



Apparently not!

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 03:16 PM

QUOTE(dave @ Nov 18 2004, 09:25 PM)
I stopped looking at this topic weeks ago.  Get a life, people!  You can start by going to this great new store on Sutter Street I just heard about..........

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I'm afraid I'm gonna have to agree. The store is open now get over it!

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE(bordercolliefan @ Oct 12 2004, 09:23 AM)
The Bee reports that there are plans for a lingerie shop to open on Sutter Street.  Apparently the front of the shop will have corsets, lingerie, and the like.  The back of the shop will have "adult novelty" items (this is the term the paper used). 

A number of Sutter Street merchants are upset because they feel this will detract from the family atmosphere of Sutter Street. 

What do you think? 

Personally I am having trouble understanding exactly what kind of shop this will be.  After all, there is a Victoria's Secret in every mall -- no one seems to complain about that.  Evidently this is more racy than V.S...  I'm also not sure if kids will be banned from the back of the shop, or what.  I think the most important thing is that the shop windows and advertising be discreet and tasteful -- i.e., no signs advertising their "novelty items."

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 05:23 PM

What's the purpose of just quoting someone else?
"Sometimes on purpose and sometimes by accident, teachers' unions have a long history of working against the interests of children in the name of job security for adults. And Democrats in particular have a history of facilitating this obstructionism in exchange for campaign donations and votes." . . .Amanda Ripley re "Waiting for Superman" movie.




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