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#61 zach5

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Posted 04 April 2004 - 05:48 PM

I personally think your veiw of Folsom High is worse than it truely is, it may be because of the people you hang out with, but most of my friends dont do drugs or drink and don't plan to go to Sierra College nor another JC


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Posted 04 April 2004 - 10:57 PM

To start with regardless of whether the post is sincere or not, the issue is. I graduated from Folsom last year and can verify that drugs are a very real problem. Almost everybody I knew had at least tried cigarettes or marijuana and many of them were habitual users.

As far as what to do about it? I don't think the answer to the drug problem is more sever punishments or stricer guidelines. That will never dissuade people from doing drugs. The people that want to are going to find a way to and the people that have chosen not to aren't. Whether or not highschool students do drugs has nothing to do with the punishments or fear of getting caught.

The way to stop students is to educate them. All the efforts to make the information about drugs known are helping. There are a lot of students who are responsible enough to make their own decisions if they have enough information to understand what is going on. There is no way to reach all the students with this tactic but it is far more effective than any guideline or penalty would be.

As far as parenting: I think that what parent do and say on this issue doesn't really matter. I certainly didn't listen to mine and I know none of my friends did either. The best thing u can do is make sure your kids know all the information and know how to make their own choices and hope they make the right one.

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Posted 04 April 2004 - 11:00 PM

Well I have only lived here for about almost 10 years but i have always noticed folsom was a great place to live til i got into high school. Thats when i noticed Drugs and sex and drinking were in i went to alot of parties when i was in highschool and never drank or smoked or anything like that but alot of the kids then did and still do i think that someone needs to do something about it cuz kids are getting hurt and dying from the drinking and most kids are smoking themselfs stupid and with the whole sex thing i have noticed alot of people are getting preg and that can be probhibited if kids waited til there married and find someone who is there right person but i mean i really think smoking is becoming a problem these dayz because kids just wanna do it to look cool and try to fit in when they should just be themselfs and not worry about if smoking is gonna make them look cool or not cuz thats really not needed to be cool just you being urself is wat makes u most cool so hopefully i have put some input in this if not sorry but this is how i feel.

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Posted 04 April 2004 - 11:03 PM

Who ever said 75-80% is exaggerating. More like 60% is the honest amount. I know plenty of people who do bad things, but the most common thing is getting drunk. At school, I hear stories all day long about how people went to a party, got drunk, and then had sex. It's all a chain reaction. But don't forget... there are some good people (such as my self) who don't do any of those things... so don't say folsom as a whole does drugs, get drunk and have sex![FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 12:10 AM

Im a senior at Laguna Creek, so i dont go to Folsom and dont really know anything about the situation there, but i do know from other highschools. For the comment about 75%-80% of the kids do drugs, have sex and go to wild parties and that "mostly all the kids are doing it" and "all the popular kids are". Now keep in mind while this may be from a point of a view from someone that goes there, its not always an accurate and unbiased way to tell facts. Ever heard of that saying "well everyones doing it". Most of us know when someone says that its not true. Just as true as the jerk guy trying to get a girl to have sex with him. But heres my point. We did a test at one of my schools on the students about drugs and how many have used it. And the results remind me alot of what you're saying. A huge majority of students believed that almost everyone was doing drugs or had done them, when in reality, when asked who had done drugs the percentage was alot lower. Basically, a kids perception of "what everyone is doing" isnt always right. Im not saying that the highschool doesnt have a problem with drugs, i couldnt be the one to tell you that. But i think theres better ways to find out.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 03:03 PM

i dont know where to start but, there is a drug problem whether big or small EVERYWHERE. maybe it is out of boredom, or peer pressure. most adults will never know. kids arent going to sit there and tell their parents they do drugs, who wants to get in trouble?

folsomjunior...75-80%? maybe in your circle of friends. people have different opinions about it. a lot of the people i know say it is because of who they hang out with. although, when there is a drug problem they look for all the misfits. not the popular ones who get the expensive drugs and have huge parties with all of their friends. im sure some people do it because they are bored but look around EVERYONE IS BORED and some people believe it or not dont do drugs

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 04:25 PM

I think i stated that 75-80% do EITHER drugs or drink, and mostly drink. Ive done it, no question, i wont deny it, and so have many of my friends (though it isnt something we do often). But, if you could go through life as a student at Folsom High for one day, you would hear a lot about it. Its a simple as that

Its gone so far as if you say you have never drank, most people would look at you kinda funny
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 04:34 PM

While you are at FHS, could you please spend a little more time paying attetntion in your English class. Your sentence structure, punctuation, and subject verb agreement are terrible. Drink, drank, and have never drunk.!!

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 04:34 PM

Let me rephrase the statistic i posted: 75-80% of the school has tried alcohol or drugs AT LEAST ONCE in their highschool experience. Still alarming all the same


Id say the number of active users, meaning people still doing it over and over, would be 60%, as one poster stated above
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Farley @ Apr 5 2004, 04:34 PM)
While you are at FHS, could you please spend a little more time paying attetntion in your English class. Your sentence structure, punctuation, and subject verb agreement are terrible. Drink, drank, and have never drunk.!!

Farley, please stay to the topic at hand, no one cares about your opinion if you want to criticize whether its "drank" or "drunk"


WHO CARES????? This is an important issue, and no one should care what use of the verb "Drink" i or anyone else uses
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 06:55 PM

I think it's pretty shameful that when a teenager (FolsomJunior00) speaks up and wants to talk or "warn" US PARENTS about issues that should be a concern to us all, the first thing some people do (Dave, etc.) is to be condescending towards him and label him a "troll".

Does it make some of you feel good to belittle someone because they don't offer an elaborate analysis when they share an opinion on this forum?

Give me a break! He's a teenager and doesn't realize that some of you require a factual summation of an issue before bringing it up on this board.

Let me speak from experience as a parent, FolsomJunior00 is speaking the truth!

There is a SERIOUS - EXTREMELY SERIOUS- problem with drinking and drugs at the school. There is also a very serious problem with fighting after school on Friday afternoons when the school gets out at 1:20 p.m.

So for those parents who think their kid is at lunch with friends, make sure he/she is really at lunch and not watching a boxing match at Safeway, Lembi or Livermore Park. Keep a very close tab on your kids.

I'm sorry that I do not have specific analysis or percentages to share with those of you who demand them but TRUST ME - as a parent of Folsom Teens, you have to be blind not to see it. I also spoke with Folsom PD about the situation and they are doing what they can to be proactive about the situation but it's tough. They can't be everywhere all the time.

My fact that I can share is that I almost dropped my son off at a "sleepover" at a friend's house that turned out to be a party of probably 60 kids in one house. The parents of the host were on a business trip and trusted their college son to watch over his siblings and their house. BIG MISTAKE! We promptly turned around when I saw what was going on and now my son is NOT allowed to go to his friends house unless a parent is in sight. I also speak with the parents to make sure they are going to be there all night.

I also knew a lot of the kids at this party and I was shocked to see them there. I sat outside the house for maybe 5 minutes watching more and more kids arrive. I also saw a parent drop off his daughter at this house - which really surprised me because you have to be really blind to not see what was going on in there.

A lot of these kids are considered the "good kids, athletic, driven, smart and both popular and unpopular". Alcohol, drugs, sex and cigarettes do not discriminate. Don't turn a blind eye just because you think your kid would "never" do something like that. Peer pressure is a very very tough thing to fight off.

The problem is that many parents have alchohol or cigarettes at their house which is easily accessible to kids. Some parents also use drugs - so what kids see - kids do. It's a very very sad thing these days.

Another fact, I was a teenager too and, would estimate that out of 500 students in my school, 85 - 90% of the kids in my high school had problems with drinking, sex, drugs, etc.

So for those of you who jump easily to label FolsomJunior a "troll" or a know nothing kid and not worth listening to, WAKE UP. Don't just tune out a kid because YOU consider him to be on a lower level of inteliigence than you. If you listen, you may learn something from FolsomJunior. I think he has every right just as anyone on this forum to speak out about issues that concern him.

I certainly appreciate his unique perspective on issues that are very important to me - my own teenagers.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 07:05 PM

Well spoken, but i dont think of myself as "of lower intelligence" to some of these adults. Most have proven to me that they are the ones of lower intelliegnce by continuing to ignore the problem right under their noses
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 07:28 PM

FolsomJunior, I'm glad that you are able to brush off from your shoulders the degrading things some people say. I agree that some parents turn a blind eye because they don't want to believe their "baby" would do anything wrong. I know. I thought the same way once until I got that call every parent dreads in the middle of the night. I'm more proactive with my kids and definitely LISTEN a lot more intently when they speak.

I know some parents are tired at night when they get home from work. However, it is extremely important to make sure you listen to your kids when they try to communicate with you. At the very least, pay more attention to them and if you notice even the slightest bit of change in their behavior or personality, speak to them. Do it before it's too late!
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 07:38 PM

One thing in general I heard in this thread is that boredom caused these kids to do drug. That is sad and is not a good reason to do drug. Kids can get hook on drugs and ruin their lives!!!!!! You have to be extremely careful. Where are the parents? May be they don't care or don't know either.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 08:23 PM

FolsomBlondie, a lot of the parents are "busy" with their own lives, making a living, trying to provide for their kids as best they can. I've said this before and truly believe that some parent's priorities have degraded. Buying the 6 bedrom 6 bath house and hummer are more important than monitoring their kids.

I've seen a lot of kids driving around town who shouldn't be behind the wheels but they have a brand new car that mommy and daddy bought them, so that they don't have to drive them around anymore.

I know several parents who have done this to ease their schedules and appease their kids.

Unfortunately, they can't monitor their kids when they take off in their cars and say they are going to a friends house for the evening or night.

As for some of us parents, like me for example, I thought I was doing a good job talking to my kids about the dangers of alcohol and drugs. I trusted my kids to make the right choice. I thought I was doing everything possible to make sure my kids were safe. What I learned this past year is that I can't protect my kids from every bad thing out there. I just have to set more boundaries, positive restrictions or punishments, listen more intently, watch more intently, smell more intently, and pray for the best.

Once kids turn 15 yo or 16 yo, you have to find alternatives to preventing your kids from doing these bad things. Keep them so busy they don't have time to do these things. MAKE THEM GO TO WORK!

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