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#61 Bill Z

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 10:45 AM

Question on definitions:

What is seafood?

Do you include freshwater fish in the above category?

If not, how about fresh water crustaceans?

I have found I like most fish, but typically prefer fresh water, with small stream trout my real favorite.

I also typically like most shellfish (aka crustaceans).

I like squid & octopii.

I do not in general like mussels, except clam chowder.

I had sea cucumber once, it was OK, and I think I had sea urchin innards once and it was gross. I actually don't know for sure what it was, but it was slimy and I had to fight the gag reflex. Some girl in South Korea wouldn't let me see it before she popped it in my mouth.

I rarely do raw fish at Japanese restaurants, I prefer most of my meat cooked.
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Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Mar 24 2009, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question on definitions:

What is seafood?

Do you include freshwater fish in the above category?

If not, how about fresh water crustaceans?

I have found I like most fish, but typically prefer fresh water, with small stream trout my real favorite.

I also typically like most shellfish (aka crustaceans).

I like squid & octopii.

I do not in general like mussels, except clam chowder.

I had sea cucumber once, it was OK, and I think I had sea urchin innards once and it was gross. I actually don't know for sure what it was, but it was slimy and I had to fight the gag reflex. Some girl in South Korea wouldn't let me see it before she popped it in my mouth.

I rarely do raw fish at Japanese restaurants, I prefer most of my meat cooked.


My simple answer is just animals that live in water, salt or fresh. Obviously, there are more scientific definitions but I think this discussion just calls for a simple one.

Fish, squid, octopus, clams, crustaceans, sea urchins, trout, crawfish, etc. Fish -- I prefer ones w/ big bones (ideally, boneless fillets). While I like the taste of fish like trout, I won't buy it or cook it myself -- too many bones (had a bad experience when I was younger). But I'll eat it if served. But I love rock cod. Steamed whole with ginger, soy sauce, sugar, scallions w/ hot oil poured over just before serving. Yummy!. Or crusted, deep fried and braised w/ any number of Chinese sauces. Drool. Lightly battered, crispy fried calamari -- Italian style -- a little aioli on the side. Too die for when done right.

I do get frozen prawns (jumbo) and scallops from Costco, as well as mussels/clams and the crab legs from the traveling seafood bar. I also get lox from Costco. I'd love to try the caviar but at $80, it's too expensive for me (probably still a good value just out of my price range).

I understand about the small stream trout. I absolutely love a Japanese river fish called Ayu. Hot summer day, broiled over a wood flame seasoned with sea salt or soy sauce. Mmmmm. Cold beer on the side. Ahhhhhhh. And of course, manageable bones. smile.gif

Sea urchin innards? As in Uni? Love that! I love to wrap up a sushi meal with a pair or two of those. And maybe some anago. Ah, those were the days.






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Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (tsukiji @ Mar 24 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While I like the taste of fish like trout, I won't buy it or cook it myself -- too many bones (had a bad experience when I was younger).

If cooked right, and carefully done right, after cooking you can de-bone a trout.

It is an art, but I've pretty much mastered it. I just have to watch for a few errant bones that I know occur right next to where I've cut the head off.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 06:48 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Mar 24 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If cooked right, and carefully done right, after cooking you can de-bone a trout.

It is an art, but I've pretty much mastered it. I just have to watch for a few errant bones that I know occur right next to where I've cut the head off.


Yea, I do like it -- coated with cornmeal and fried in bacon grease (a la Hemingway). But we all have our little Monk-ish quirks. smile.gif

But I've found that other fishies that are pre-boned do the trick just fine.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 07:04 AM

I don't like lots of bones in fish either. Somebody mentioned about Halibut and not liking bottomfeeding fish. I have to agree. After reading John Grisham's "A Painted House," I don't have much of an appetite for catfish, not that I liked it all that much before.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 07:34 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Mar 24 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If cooked right, and carefully done right, after cooking you can de-bone a trout.

It is an art, but I've pretty much mastered it. I just have to watch for a few errant bones that I know occur right next to where I've cut the head off.



Or you could just get yourself a wunder boner laugh.gif




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Posted 25 March 2009 - 08:35 AM

QUOTE (tsukiji @ Mar 25 2009, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea, I do like it -- coated with cornmeal and fried in bacon grease (a la Hemingway). But we all have our little Monk-ish quirks. smile.gif

But I've found that other fishies that are pre-boned do the trick just fine.

They don't come pre-boned out of the stream into the frying pan, just one of those things you have to rough it when backpacking. Eating the freshest fish possible.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE (Howdy @ Mar 25 2009, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or you could just get yourself a wunder boner laugh.gif



I won't buy that:

1st, I can already see it doesn't do anything with the fin bones.

2nd, it weighs more than it's worth when backpacking.

3rd, I bet it doesn't work as easy as they indicate, maybe something for "Call Kurtis on Buy it & Try it" to get proof of my hunch.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 08:41 AM

This thread is making me hungry... letseat.gif
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Mar 25 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I won't buy that:

1st, I can already see it doesn't do anything with the fin bones.

2nd, it weighs more than it's worth when backpacking.

3rd, I bet it doesn't work as easy as they indicate, maybe something for "Call Kurtis on Buy it & Try it" to get proof of my hunch.

4th, the name
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 09:38 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Mar 25 2009, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They don't come pre-boned out of the stream into the frying pan, just one of those things you have to rough it when backpacking. Eating the freshest fish possible.


Well, backpacking is a different story -- that's just survival. smile.gif

I'm mostly talking about what you find on ice at the store.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 09:39 AM

QUOTE (mylo @ Mar 25 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
4th, the name


Yeah, sounds like it could be the name of a very different type of product...

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Mar 25 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I won't buy that:

1st, I can already see it doesn't do anything with the fin bones.

2nd, it weighs more than it's worth when backpacking.

3rd, I bet it doesn't work as easy as they indicate, maybe something for "Call Kurtis on Buy it & Try it" to get proof of my hunch.


dude, people eat fish in town too - not just while out backpacking

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 02:02 PM

Sorry to crash the off-topic party, but I thought I'd mention that you can get weekly coupons from Raley's if you sign-up on their website. It's usually a "$20 off $100 purchase" coupon.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (SacKen @ Mar 25 2009, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to crash the off-topic party, but I thought I'd mention that you can get weekly coupons from Raley's if you sign-up on their website. It's usually a "$20 off $100 purchase" coupon.

I just signed up. Looks like they have separate wine specials, too.
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