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#61 Bill Z

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 08:32 AM

QUOTE (MrsTuffPaws @ Dec 21 2009, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was floored by Jurassic Park when it first came out. Now it looks so hokey, it's unwatchable to me. It's amazing how our tastes and technology change with age.

That is so sad to me. I can still watch the original Star Trek TV shows and enjoy them, but you wanna talk hokey, it doesn't get much hokier than that with the exception of the original Godzilla movies.

Is our society becoming so bad at imagining, that if it doesn't look "real", then it isn't worth watching. Maybe it's just me, I still enjoy the heck out of cartoons as well. If someone played a bugsbunny & road runner marathon, I would watch it.
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 09:42 AM

I have to say that I cannot recall the last time that I have actually spoken to so many people that were absolutely blown away by a film such as Avatar. Thisis one of those once every 5 years where we have to MAKE time to see this in the theatres with our hectic schedules.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 10:09 AM

I thought it was a very good film, definitely needs to be seen in the theater. But I wouldn't say it was a great film and it wasn't even the best movie I have seen in the last month (I enjoyed Fantastic Mr. Fox more, kind of ironic given it's low-tech nature).

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Dec 22 2009, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is so sad to me. I can still watch the original Star Trek TV shows and enjoy them, but you wanna talk hokey, it doesn't get much hokier than that with the exception of the original Godzilla movies.

Is our society becoming so bad at imagining, that if it doesn't look "real", then it isn't worth watching. Maybe it's just me, I still enjoy the heck out of cartoons as well. If someone played a bugsbunny & road runner marathon, I would watch it.

To me Jurassic Park was about the effects. The story was OK, bu the acting was terrible. Take away the good looking effects, and you have a bad movie. That's why I'm skeptical of "visual experiences" like Avatar, because when you take away all the smoke and mirrors, you end up watching a bad movie.

Hokey effects are fine, as long as you can back it up with exceptional storytelling. Maybe Avatar does this, but from the clips and trailers, I'm just not convinced. But I've been wrong before, and maybe I'm wrong again.



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Posted 22 December 2009 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE (MrsTuffPaws @ Dec 22 2009, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To me Jurassic Park was about the effects. The story was OK, bu the acting was terrible. Take away the good looking effects, and you have a bad movie. That's why I'm skeptical of "visual experiences" like Avatar, because when you take away all the smoke and mirrors, you end up watching a bad movie.

Hokey effects are fine, as long as you can back it up with exceptional storytelling. Maybe Avatar does this, but from the clips and trailers, I'm just not convinced. But I've been wrong before, and maybe I'm wrong again.

That doesn't really bother me. I'd gladly watch it on mute, if it weren't for all the sound effects that go along with the visual effects.

I'm expecting the story to be absolutely miserable, but at least it will look cool.

Unlike that stupid New Moon movie, which had both bad story, bad acting, and bad effects.
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (mylo @ Dec 22 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That doesn't really bother me. I'd gladly watch it on mute, if it weren't for all the sound effects that go along with the visual effects.

I'm expecting the story to be absolutely miserable, but at least it will look cool.

Unlike that stupid New Moon movie, which had both bad story, bad acting, and bad effects.


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Posted 22 December 2009 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (JLS @ Dec 21 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry. Only reason I wrote that is because it sounded like you did have doubts when you wrote this comment

Heck no, if you have zero interest in a movie then please don't go see it because your just gonna rain on everybody else's parade...LOL. What I said is true and you just can't outline this movie in a paragraph like that. ANY movie's sounds stupid when you shorten it to a simple few lines like that. I'd love to explain the movie deeper to you as you originally asked but it's just pointless. Words can't describe it well. Not meaning as in the phrase, "words can't describe it" the movie is perfect. But simply that I've failed to see anybody explain it or show a preview of it and it look interesting. It just doesn't. But when I went and seen it I was really satisfied.

Anyways Darth, I did understand you the first time. I was just trying to give a very simple overview of the technology for others.

Totally agree with you. The story was moving, and it takes a big technological leap that is worth seeing in the theater. I can't say that I've ever sat in a theater for over two and a half hours without once considering the time before the film/concert/musical/play/etc. was over...

Should we start talking Best Picture nomination potential (for a sci fi flick with a familiar sounding story)?

QUOTE (mylo @ Dec 22 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That doesn't really bother me. I'd gladly watch it on mute, if it weren't for all the sound effects that go along with the visual effects.

I'm expecting the story to be absolutely miserable, but at least it will look cool.

Unlike that stupid New Moon movie, which had both bad story, bad acting, and bad effects.

I made a calculated decision to let my wife go to this one with her sister, due to the number of shirtless guys in the tv trailers!

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (MrsTuffPaws @ Dec 21 2009, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've heard EDH is the smaller "fake" IMAX.


It's the IMAX Digital format, which uses a 28x58' screen instead of the 53x72' standard IMAX screen... 4K pixel projection. The new Palladio digital projection is probably at least comparable (IMHO).

http://en.wikipedia....ax#IMAX_Digital

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (stangage70 @ Dec 22 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's the IMAX Digital format, which uses a 28x58' screen instead of the 53x72' standard IMAX screen... 4K pixel projection. The new Palladio digital projection is probably at least comparable (IMHO).

http://en.wikipedia....ax#IMAX_Digital

4K pixel projection? Isn't Digital IMAX two 2K projectors?

DLP is 2K and that's what Palladio has...
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 07:17 AM

hmmm--what theatre mogul does the palladio fall under?

The light blue or the dark blue movie gift certificates at costco?

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 09:11 AM

I think Palladio is Cinema West. If Costco doesn't offer discount tix, I'm sure they will soon.


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Posted 23 December 2009 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (JLS @ Dec 22 2009, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
4K pixel projection? Isn't Digital IMAX two 2K projectors?
DLP is 2K and that's what Palladio has...


Yep - two 2K projectors. I guess the actually just overlap them for enough brightness. I originally thought they were going to side-by-side for 4K total (in width).
Sony has some 4K projection options...

Anyone remember 70mm film?



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Posted 23 December 2009 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE (stangage70 @ Dec 23 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sony has some 4K projection options...

If you can actually find them...
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:50 PM

Ugh. I broke down and saw the Avatar (in 3D at Palladio). I'm not sure why. I guess I thought maybe I was being stubborn, and I was really missing out on an opportunity to see a great feat of filmmaking as it was happening (so to speak) instead of years later.

And I hated it.

Well, hate might be a little harsh, I just thought it was boring, and painfully predictable. Sure, it was very pretty. But pretty doesn't make a movie. I had to stop my husband from walking out mid-way through.

I had never seen a 3D movie before (Jaws #D doesn't count), so that was kinda neat. They didn't poke at you like they did way back when, so I didn't think the 3D got in the way of the movie, but I also didn't think it added much. The 'wow' factor of being in 3D wore off in about 15-20 minutes, and I was left watching a exceedingly mediocre movie.

I generally like Sci-Fi and military movies (action not-so-much), but this had no suspense, very little 'wonder', and I eye-rolled and (silently) groaned at least a dozen times at the terrible script.

Other people liked it. 2 or 3 of them clapped at the end. I can understand the appeal, if I was 15 and hadn't seen so many movies just like it I may have loved it. But for me, now, it was a waste of money.

A solid C, C+ if I'm feeling generous.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 10:35 PM

Negative reviews are cool... some movies aren't for everybody and I could tell it wouldn't be for you a while ago which is why I was happy when you said you "weren't" going to see it.

But why does your review give me a feeling that you not only seen to the movie to be able to hate on it but you also give a vibe of putting others down who enjoyed the movie.

You have rated that movie a C stating that you were being "generous". That rating is down there about with "baby genius's", "shark boy and lava girl", "dumb and dumberer". So far the average out of 15,000 reviews on yahoo it is an "A". 14 Movie critics who would love nothing more but to tear this movie apart after all its claimed to be and their average is an "A-".

Not only that but you say you had to stop your husband half way through from walking out indicating that he felt the movie was such trash he couldn't bare it anymore.

If you would have rated it a B- I would have thought you gave it a fair try and just didn't enjoy it but you seem to have some sort of childish motivation behind disliking this movie and I feel sorry that you would waste $20 or so just to show that to everybody.
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