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[mylo]

Local PD and even CHP or State Police are not federal officers and thereby are not bound ( and may not be able ) to use the Feds statute in this case. In many cases like this - they are unwilling to do so and have every right in that respect.

That's what I'm trying to get educated. Can he take it? Does he? Is he supposed to call Federal authorities? etc.

[Dave Burrell]

Is he supposed to call Federal authorities? etc.

We are just talking about weed here right? (not meth, PCP, tar heroin or hand guns or bombs or the like)?

It's seriously stupid that so many millions of dollars annually and billions over the decades are and have been spent fighting against something that grows naturally like a uh, weed... yet alcohol, that is entirely man made and 100x's worse (on the body and the mind), is legal ~ and the real funny part is how people think booze is perfectly a-ok but weed is the work of the devil booga! booga!

How many people in the world have had liver transplants because they soaked it for years with booze (Larry Hagman for starters) versus how many people had to have lung transplants because they smoked pot? I bet its 1000 to 0

I'd much rather deal with stoners any day then drunks who are always out of control and turn into alternative angry personalities when they've had too much.

Gotta luv weak minded ignorance and the tobacco and alcohol lobbyists that do a fine job of keeping marijuana illegal by padding the pockets of politicians to ensure it stays that way.

Wake up people, legalize it and tax it!

Plus the longer its kept illegal the longer the drug cartels will be making billions, killing people and smuggling it in.... nothing is ever going to stop it, to think otherwise is seriously naive.

Anyone ever remember a guy named Al Capone and something called Prohibition? How well did that work out?

[Steve Heard]

We are just talking about weed here right? (not meth, PCP, tar heroin or hand guns or bombs or the like)?

It's seriously stupid that so many millions of dollars annually and billions over the decades are and have been spent fighting against something that grows naturally like a uh, weed... yet alcohol, that is entirely man made and 100x's worse (on the body and the mind), is legal ~ and the real funny part is how people think booze is perfectly a-ok but weed is the work of the devil booga! booga!

How many people in the world have had liver transplants because they soaked it for years with booze (Larry Hagman for starters) versus how many people had to have lung transplants because they smoked pot? I bet its 1000 to 0

I'd much rather deal with stoners any day then drunks who are always out of control and turn into alternative angry personalities when they've had too much.

Gotta luv weak minded ignorance and the tobacco and alcohol lobbyists that do a fine job of keeping marijuana illegal by padding the pockets of politicians to ensure it stays that way.

Wake up people, legalize it and tax it!

Plus the longer its kept illegal the longer the drug cartels will be making billions, killing people and smuggling it in.... nothing is ever going to stop it, to think otherwise is seriously naive.

Anyone ever remember a guy named Al Capone and something called Prohibition? How well did that work out?

The arguments against legalization don't make a lot of sense, except in the 'slippery slope' theory.

Among the best arguments for legalization is that it can only hurt the person smoking it, and that we don't have a right to tell people what they can or can't do with their own bodies.

The problem with that argument is that we may then find the mushroom advocates, peyote, meth, ecstacy and heroin users saying the same thing.

I do think it is a tiresome waste of time, money and energy trying to eradicate something that millions of peolple find harmless and socially acceptable.

Legalize it. Don't require a prescription. License the sellers and pay a tax on it. You raise tax revenue and eliminate the illegal weed trade and all that goes with it at the same time.

[irish1]

Thats a great cover up. Thanks for your take on it, though.
I respect Police, dont get me wrong. But I do think there is lag time in your job just like everyone elses. Have too many friends that are cops and I am sure you know the stories.

Wow, Wreathlady.... Why do you come at me like that..? Why are you insinuating that I posted a lie for everyone to read...? You say ...'Don't get me wrong'? There is no other way to take it. A poster (you, for one..) made mention, in a questioning way, as to the guy telling me all this during a vehicle stop. I then took the time to explain why we had the opportunity - and time - to discuss how he obtained his M.M.C.

If you do not want to accept my explanation - as if it matters - that would be your problem. But then to post that you think I was laying down a 'cover up,' and that I was being untruthful, that's just cruel.

Check your local papers Police Log this week... 1000 block of Blue Ravine Rd.... Out of State warrant arrest. But really, perhaps you'll think they're lying too.

Be safe......

[Dave Burrell]

Wow, Wreathlady.... Why do you come at me like that..? Why are you insinuating that I posted a lie for everyone to read...? You say ...'Don't get me wrong'? There is no other way to take it. A poster (you, for one..) made mention, in a questioning way, as to the guy telling me all this during a vehicle stop. I then took the time to explain why we had the opportunity - and time - to discuss how he obtained his M.M.C.

If you do not want to accept my explanation - as if it matters - that would be your problem. But then to post that you think I was laying down a 'cover up,' and that I was being untruthful, that's just cruel.

Check your local papers Police Log this week... 1000 block of Blue Ravine Rd.... Out of State warrant arrest. But really, perhaps you'll think they're lying too.

Be safe......

I thought that was an odd thing to say to you too since you were just trying to help give perspective on the subject by telling about this particular situation...

I also found supermom's disparaging comment extremely odd that was against the poster who gave his experienced perspective about the legitimacy of the licenses.. and I'm still trying to figure out what she was expecting the mods to do about the backlash she received for it? - hate to say, but it was deserved, if the mods did anything, her comment should have been deleted.... it was uncalled for.

It's really strange how some folks are lashing out so angrily about this subject...

do they work as lobbyists for the alcohol and tobacco industries?

[wreathlady]

I thought that was an odd thing to say to you too since you were just trying to help give perspective on the subject by telling about this particular situation...

I also found supermom's disparaging comment extremely odd that was against the poster who gave his experienced perspective about the legitimacy of the licenses.. and I'm still trying to figure out what she was expecting the mods to do about the backlash she received for it? - hate to say, but it was deserved, if the mods did anything, her comment should have been deleted.... it was uncalled for.

It's really strange how some folks are lashing out so angrily about this subject...

do they work as lobbyists for the alcohol and tobacco industries?

Wow, did not mean to cause such a controversy. I apologize. Seems like you are both too defensive on this subject. Have a good day.

Wow, Wreathlady.... Why do you come at me like that..? Why are you insinuating that I posted a lie for everyone to read...? You say ...'Don't get me wrong'? There is no other way to take it. A poster (you, for one..) made mention, in a questioning way, as to the guy telling me all this during a vehicle stop. I then took the time to explain why we had the opportunity - and time - to discuss how he obtained his M.M.C.

If you do not want to accept my explanation - as if it matters - that would be your problem. But then to post that you think I was laying down a 'cover up,' and that I was being untruthful, that's just cruel.

Check your local papers Police Log this week... 1000 block of Blue Ravine Rd.... Out of State warrant arrest. But really, perhaps you'll think they're lying too.

Be safe......

Sorry you took it so personally. I was not saying you were not doing your job either, that is the way you took it. I apologize, but you are way too defensive about this. You be safe.

[Dave Burrell]

Wow, did not mean to cause such a controversy. I apologize. Seems like you are both too defensive on this subject. Have a good day.

wait a minute... We're just trying to understand why you said that, why did you assume it was bs and say he's lying? - you got this same reaction and controversy in the cancer thread and people giving you a hard time saying you and AH didn't have your facts right just a week or so ago - then you went and did the same thing to Irish - I don't get that...

It's not being defensive on the subject, he just doesn't like being called a liar - who does? Personally I'm just trying to understand why you would assume he made that up? what would be gained by that? he wasn't supporting weed, he was just telling about a relate-able scenario he encountered.

[doj_gal]

Legalize it. Don't require a prescription. License the sellers and pay a tax on it. You raise tax revenue and eliminate the illegal weed trade and all that goes with it at the same time.

The only problem I see with this is that the illegal black market will never go away. My experience with people who smoke MJ is that the MJ stores do not sell quality and truely organic products. Therefore, there will still be the predominant amount of users not buying from a store even after the legalization. Plus, even though the store claims that they test what they sell, I doubt they do in every occasion. So, most MJ smokers go to the grower they trust.

Another fear is that big tobacco companies are gonna get the rights and add a bunch of junk into the product to make it addictive and deadly...aka cigarettes.

I do not see the revunue that has been projected. Time will only tell.

The only benefit from legalization is taking these cases out of the criminal justice system.
We were once was told by a group of sheriff's, "That it doesn't matter if someone has a pot plant growing out of their hat, there is nothing they can do." They were specifically told to not arrest or even cite people growing, it's a waste of time/resources.

And as far as slippery slope...blah blah blah...I am so sick of that B.S....these are the same people stating gay's should not marry because that would lead to people marrying their animals...really come on people.

IMHO you should only correct people's behavior that causes harm to you or you family. If my hubby is smoking in our detached garage which is locked with the windows blocked and a air filtration system, then what right is he infringing on of anyone else's? Funny thing though some drunk could be out and about, driving, showing their body parts and smoking like a chimney(normal night in Roseville)...but Marijuana is bad. Slippery slope or not people who consume alcohol, tend to do so in abundance and make many poor decisions, in comparison to their "stoner" counterparts.

We have to let people make choices until their choices have been proven to be a burden on society.

[doj_gal]

Wow, Wreathlady.... Why do you come at me like that..? Why are you insinuating that I posted a lie for everyone to read...? You say ...'Don't get me wrong'? There is no other way to take it. A poster (you, for one..) made mention, in a questioning way, as to the guy telling me all this during a vehicle stop. I then took the time to explain why we had the opportunity - and time - to discuss how he obtained his M.M.C.

If you do not want to accept my explanation - as if it matters - that would be your problem. But then to post that you think I was laying down a 'cover up,' and that I was being untruthful, that's just cruel.

Check your local papers Police Log this week... 1000 block of Blue Ravine Rd.... Out of State warrant arrest. But really, perhaps you'll think they're lying too.

Be safe......

Gotta love those YQ/YR response lag times. Those are the requests your dispatchers send in when you get an out of state wanted person hit. Often times they are done quickly...other times they take a while.

Nothing about your story sounds odd except what the doctor said to the new MJ patient at the end. But some doctors are quacks...I've had a special ed one in the past.

My thing is I hate when a certain type of person (usually the worst) becomes the poster child for the entire group of people. I am sure there are plenty of people whom smoke, fail to follow rules/laws and are truely the scum of the earth. Those people usually do not get their MJ cards so this one was a rare one.

Most of my hubbies friends are MJ card holders. They ALL have full time jobs and families. My hubby is the only stay at home dad but our family can afford to do so. They are not the scum of the earth like most people claim "stoners" to be. More people smoke than anyone would ever know.

[ducky]

Most of my hubbies friends are MJ card holders. They ALL have full time jobs and families. My hubby is the only stay at home dad but our family can afford to do so. They are not the scum of the earth like most people claim "stoners" to be. More people smoke than anyone would ever know.

So I'm curious. What exactly are his friends' ailments to get their MJ Passports? (To borrow Irish1's term

I fall into the category of I don't feel it's any of my business if someone wants to light up once in a while if they can afford it; if they don't make me breathe the secondhand smoke; if they don't catch their house on fire with grow lights and then try to cancel the 9-1-1 call so the cops don't show; and if they don't do anything while impaired that would harm others.

I'm just curious to know what other medical ailments qualify. I certainly think cancer patients should be allowed. What else is there to get the card for?

[wreathlady]

wait a minute... We're just trying to understand why you said that, why did you assume it was bs and say he's lying? - you got this same reaction and controversy in the cancer thread and people giving you a hard time saying you and AH didn't have your facts right just a week or so ago - then you went and did the same thing to Irish - I don't get that...

It's not being defensive on the subject, he just doesn't like being called a liar - who does? Personally I'm just trying to understand why you would assume he made that up? what would be gained by that? he wasn't supporting weed, he was just telling about a relate-able scenario he encountered.

that was your own assumption. I never said he was lying. As far as the cancer thread goes that was Chris V and his big mouth flying off the handle. If you look on health and wellness I actually did some emailing and calling to get the proper info. So, good try but I am trying to give the right information. So why do you not drop it. I am done with this topic it is such a waste of time. I think everyone should smoke pot and relax.

[mylo]

Geez, people. Chill out! Go get an MMC card and take your medication!

[ducky]

Geez, people. Chill out! Go get an MMC card and take your medication!

No thanks. A glass of wine is easier. No copays or doctor appointments.

[chris v]

that was your own assumption. I never said he was lying. As far as the cancer thread goes that was Chris V and his big mouth flying off the handle. If you look on health and wellness I actually did some emailing and calling to get the proper info. So, good try but I am trying to give the right information. So why do you not drop it. I am done with this topic it is such a waste of time. I think everyone should smoke pot and relax.

That would be smart mouth... dear.

[doj_gal]

So I'm curious. What exactly are his friends' ailments to get their MJ Passports? (To borrow Irish1's term

I fall into the category of I don't feel it's any of my business if someone wants to light up once in a while if they can afford it; if they don't make me breathe the secondhand smoke; if they don't catch their house on fire with grow lights and then try to cancel the 9-1-1 call so the cops don't show; and if they don't do anything while impaired that would harm others.

I'm just curious to know what other medical ailments qualify. I certainly think cancer patients should be allowed. What else is there to get the card for?

They are all different. I do not feel it's appropriate to share my hubby's medical condition since people tend to use it against me in other posts. I will say that there is one person with skin/brain cancer, one with Crones disease(sp)(I do not know what it is), one person with collapsed discs and fractured spine and another that suffers from extreme anxiety. I personally would rather them smoke MJ if it helps, than take pills which often causes other health issues due to side effects.

I do not think you can get medicinal marijuana from the state.

I find your post funny though. There are plenty of people on disability that cannot afford their pill medications and use state aid to get their medication...So basically we are paying for their health care and their monthly survival. 10 years of contribution is not enough and will exhaust our social security system by 2037. I just got my paper in the mail which explained all of this fun information to me. Sadly, I will pay into a system for possibly 45 years, so that others may use it, however I will never see a return. I wish that I could take at least 1/2 of that money to invest in my own future, not pay for others.

Secondhand smoke, I will agree with however I can not tell you how many times I encounter this with cigarette smokers.

Fires occur everyday and I could speculate that more are due to candles, cigarettes or faulty wires due to marijuana grow lights.

911 calls really? I know there are more calls due to domestic violence than anything else and yet they tend to go back to their abuser. We gonna start charging those women whom call 911 and then say nevermind when the police come?

Impaired...there are more people with their dang cell phones stuck to their hands or people eating while driving than their are people smoking marijuana and driving.

I think your knowledge or lack there of, associated with marijuana users and the issues our society faces are evident in your post. People are able to go to their doctors and receive prescriptions and you should have zero, nadda, zip to say about it.

Funny that you have an opinion on these people but not the real health issue for our country which is obesity...no one is up in arms about that. As a person with weight issues, I will own up to my own contribution to our failing health system, though I haven't had any medical issues besides being vitamin D deficient. However to blame my husband or people like him for using medication responsibly, is absolutely ridiculous.