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[eVader]

I find it interesting that people have never held a "evil, black, assault rifle or pistol" claim they know everything about guns and gun control. In this case there is nothing super military, scary or deadly about them. Any weapon is deadly if it is pointed at you.

Guns have a place in the US be it for target shooting, competition or self defense. They should be handled safely. They should be secured in a home (if the mom had secured the weapons in a safe or had trigger locks which are good gun control laws, she would be not have been killed with her own weapons). Even school teachers which we view as kind, gentle, compassionate, intelligent can enjoy gun ownership and target shooting.

Maybe we should teach gun safety in the schools (Dont touch, be respectful, only use for self defense or on a safe target range) in addition to respect for others and ourselves and lastly that resolve your issues peacefully.

We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions. - Ronald Reagan.

[bordercolliefan]

Wow, I don't even know where to start. I'm not sure one can even have a serious discussion with people who would make some of the assertions, above.

1. Who would seriously compare civil wars in places like Syria and Afghanistan to a mentally ill individual shooting up a 1st grade class? That is an absurd comparison. Yes, our country had a civil war, too, and a lot of people died. That's not what this debate is about. And the reference to Mexico is particularly ironic, because what are many Mexican officials calling for? Wait for it... tighter gun control laws in the U.S. to stop the free flow of weapons into Mexico!

2. Switzerland has one of the highest household gun ownership rates in the world, so your point actually proves the opposite of what you think it does.

3. My point still stands: name another country (not in the midst of a civil war) that has had 60+ incidents of mass slaughter by guns in the past 30 years. You can't do it.

It's okay if your position is, "I'm willing to tolerate frequent slaughter of innocents as the price we pay for freedom to own guns." That is a logically defensible position, though not one I agree with. But to deny the facts is just... obtuse.

[Priscilla]

I find it interesting that people have never held a "evil, black, assault rifle or pistol" claim they know everything about guns and gun control. In this case there is nothing super military, scary or deadly about them. Any weapon is deadly if it is pointed at you.

Guns have a place in the US be it for target shooting, competition or self defense. They should be handled safely. They should be secured in a home (if the mom had secured the weapons in a safe or had trigger locks which are good gun control laws, she would be not have been killed with her own weapons). Even school teachers which we view as kind, gentle, compassionate, intelligent can enjoy gun ownership and target shooting.

Maybe we should teach gun safety in the schools (Dont touch, be respectful, only use for self defense or on a safe target range) in addition to respect for others and ourselves and lastly that resolve your issues peacefully.

We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions. - Ronald Reagan.

So can you please answer this question with all honesty...If you child was killed by a "evil black assault rifle" would you still feel the same way? Would you be ok with the way the law stands? Please dont dance around the question like the other poster, just an honest answer

[chris v]

So can you please answer this question with all honesty...If you child was killed by a "evil black assault rifle" would you still feel the same way? Would you be ok with the way the law stands? Please dont dance around the question like the other poster, just an honest answer

The evil black assault rifle is an inanimate object. It is incapable of killing on its own.

[bordercolliefan]

So get a grip and address the real problem, our country needs mental health care services increased, not a gun ban

I am sure liberals do not disagree with you: we need more mental health services!

Realistically, though, there are many mental illnesses that cannot be "cured." Mental illness often causes the person to be non-compliant with treatment (i.e., won't take meds), so it is a vicious cycle. Given this reality, what would you do to make sure these mentally ill people don't get their hands on guns?

[Chris]

Doesnt matter....law needs to change. Guns like the one used in this massacre should be outlawed!PERIOD!!!!!!

Actually Chevy's, Ford's, Toyota's, Honda's, Dodge's, and VW's kill more people in this country every year. We should start with cars, then alcohol, drugs, then guns using your logic. Current gun laws were not followed by the woman who was killed by her son and then her weapons to kill others. If she had them locked up as required by law, ammo locked up too in a separate location, and then if the perp followed the "gun free zone" law that schools are in fact then this would not have happened. Multiple laws were broken and not followed. Add more laws to the ones we already have and it will accomplish nothing but hinder law abiding citizens like me from defending myself and pursuing my hobby. Maybe we should allow people to carry weapons concealed legally in public places and on school grounds and events like these would be cut short....? We need less gun laws that hinder law abiding citizens like me and others who are willing to CCW and defend our fellow citizens. If only one or two teachers or employees at that school had a CCW this story might have been less tragic. Chris

Example of an armed and law abiding citizen: http://www.kgw.com/n...-183593571.html

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

The rifle was not used so why is it STILL being blamed instead of blaming the nut job?

There were too many early reports that contained incorrect information. The assault rifle was used.

[Stop South of 50]

Please read this... and then think what is the real issue.

Its time to get serious... but serious about the REAL issue... how we deal with the mentally disabled in this country...

http://gawker.com/59...m-lanzas-mother

[Logan]

Could someone please describe the guns used in this incident? I understood they were not "ordinary" revolvers, but were semi-automatic weapons capable of firing many, many rounds very quickly.

Most handguns are semi-automatic, not revolvers, but a skilled revolver shooter can fire almost just as quickly. I know I'm no expert shooter, but I can shoot 7 rounds out of my revolver in about the same time it takes me to shoot 9 rounds out of my semi-auto.