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[GrumpyOldGuy]

Great fan of Carlin since I first saw him in the late 60's.  You seem to overlook the most salient point of the whole routine - "The people are [screwed]"...(at 2:31 in his routine)  Count yourself among "the people".

 

Another Carlin quote that may apply - "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

[2 Aces]

Hilarious. You're so clueless.

Carlin said that people are screwed because EARTH HAS THE FINAL SAY, NOT HUMANS !! You can't even follow his logic!

Again, you are showing some ignorance. Classic.

[The Average Joe]

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

 

One of my all time favorite quotes!

[2 Aces]

In jury trials, jury instructions always include, "if you find that any witness was untruthful in any of their testimony, you may disregard ALL of their testimony".

 

In the illustration below, let's review the global warming testimony for truthfulness over the years.

 

Oh my God, it looks like ALL of the global warming testimony was untruthful. Hmmm...it looks like it's time to disregard ALL of their testimony, predictions, pronouncements, etc, as a total lie, a total fraud, a total hoax, and total fiction.

 

 

[2 Aces]

How many people have joined the climate change cult? A lot. Especially the millennials because they are young and easily manipulated. But if older people buy the climate change hoax/lie/fraud, then other *issues* may be involved.

 

Sorry if that hurts people's feelings, but climate change has been debunked as just another extremist religion. Global warming is fiction, and the historical numbers prove it conclusively. (see the chart that Chris posted earlier).

 

 

[2 Aces]

Oh, and when "professors and scientists" are exposed as LIARS, that's when you know that the entire global warming hysteria is a gigantic, money-driven fraud.

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Trails -  It's not the question I asked.  But no worries...

[Carl G]

Trails -  It's not the question I asked.  But no worries...

I'm curious.  Why does that matter?

[Chris]

Trails -  It's not the question I asked.  But no worries...

Yep, it's all about what you ask.....

[The Average Joe]

Let's focus on the topic, not each other...

[2 Aces]

Wake up, folks. It's a lie. There's no empirical evidence or data to support the global warming hysteria. The environmentalists lie about it. The mainstream media lies about it. The Democrats lie about it. And Obama constantly lies about it.

 

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

There are currently 1200+ operational Department of Defense (DOD) facilities in the USA.  Of those, 128 are at risk of being impacted by climate change in the next 80 years.  Many are the most important parts of our military capability, and unless significant action is taken, their operational readiness will be affected.  This posting addresses a small part of where the military and global warming intersect.

 

SEA LEVEL RISE:

 

A number of recent studies attempt to predict sea level rise between now and the end of the century.  Their predictions range from 0.5 meters (20 inches) up to 1.9 meters (76 inches).  All of the studies concur on the fact that sea level rise is accelerating, and the wide range of “how much” results from the different models being used.  In any case, coastal DOD facilities will be affected.

 

MILITARY FACILITIES:

 

The leading edge of these problems is starting to appear now.  Eighteen DOD facilities along the Eastern Seaboard and Gulf Coast are experiencing problems caused by sea level rise.  Sea water encroachment occurs one to two times a month from tides and from weather events, and it’s enough to cause disruptions in military base operations.  The problems can be as simple as flooded local streets and roads where people can’t get to work on these bases, to water on airport runways requiring they be shut down until the water recedes, to naval docks being flooded and affecting various infrastructure under the dock (steam lines, electrical wiring, etc) that provide support to ships tied to the dock.  As the century proceeds, the frequency of these disruptive events will increase.  By 2100, these bases will also suffer significant permanent land loss. The facilities most at risk are:

 

NAS Key West                     NAS Oceana              Langley AFB
MCRD Parris Island             USCG Sandy Hook    Fort Eustis
NSF Anacostia                     NS Mayport               Naval Academy Annapolis
Washington Naval Yard        Portsmouth NS          MCAS Beaufort
Norfolk NS                            NSB Kings Bay          Hunter Army Airfield
Camp Lejeune                      Elgin AFB                  Bolling AFB

 

If nothing is done, the operational readiness of our military will be diminished, in some cases significantly.  It’s likely that NAS Key West, Joint Base Langley-Eustis, NAS Oceana, and Marine Corps Recruit Depot (MCRD) Parris Island will have to be abandon or completely relocated by the end of the century.

 

SOLUTIONS:

 

Many of the problems can be addressed – sea walls, raising the level of facilities, pumping water, moving docks, relocating structures, etc.  It only takes $$$, and the Pentagon has been asking for funds to begin work on climate change related projects.  There is an obstacle to all of this however…POLITICIANS! 

 

The Constitution requires that all fiscal legislation must originate in the House of Representatives, and funding for the DOD is no exception.  All military targeted funding must pass through the House Armed Services Committee.  The House is majority Republican as is the Armed Services Committee.  Of the 39 Republican committee members, 18 are climate change deniers including Mac Thornberry (R,TX) who is committee chairman, and our own Duncan Hunter (CA-50th Dist).  Some legislators have said that any DOD funding proposals that contain the word “climate” or any reference to global warming are Dead-on-Arrival in the Armed Services Committee.  Since 2014, the committee has made good on this stand. 

 

So it seems that our duly elected officials are willing to sacrifice military readiness and national security in order to sustain their ideologies regarding climate change and global warming.   If you find this troubling, please make your voice heard.

 

NOTE - This posting is intended to inform and not host a debate, as debates get distracting.  If you wish to comment, please do.  Always interested in what others think.  I won't respond, however.   If you want to converse or debate on this topic, please open another forum listing and I'll be happy to meet you there.

[2 Aces]

Let's take a look at the global warming stuff from a legal standpoint. For example, in jury trials, jury instructions always include, "if you find that any witness was untruthful in any of their testimony, you may disregard ALL of their testimony".

 

In the illustration (ACTUAL predictions and pronouncements) below, let's review the global warming testimony for truthfulness and accuracy over the years.

 

Uh oh, it looks like ALL of the global warming testimony was NOT accurate and NOT truthful, especially the prediction in 1989 about sea level rise that would wipe out entire nations by the year 2000!! Hmmm...it looks like it's time to disregard ALL of their testimony, predictions, pronouncements, etc, as a total lie, a total fraud, a total hoax, and total fiction.

 

I wonder if the *believers* have a political agenda? Don't be fooled, folks. You're smarter than that, right? You know BS when you see it, right?

 

 

[The Average Joe]

Source your copy and paste. It makes several claims without substantiation, and several assumptions. Show me the evidence!