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[CostcoLover]

Who said water was safe? Johnson & Johnson says otherwise. Besides, we all know about drowning so that's obvious, but just drinking too much water (not drowning) will kill you.

"...warned about a recently identified, potentially life-threatening hazard that may be caused by drinking too much water, hyponatremia."

http://www.jnj.com/n...1030_105713.htm

[camay2327]

In todays SacBee.


http://www.sacbee.co...-14494104c.html

[forumreader]

Thank you to the City Council members who voted in opposition to a needle program. I hope surrounding communities will follow suit.

[bishmasterb]

Thank you to the City Council members who voted in opposition to a needle program.  I hope surrounding communities will follow suit.

Just to make sure I'm clear in my understanding of this, the city council voted to not allow private pharmacies to sell needles, correct? This had nothing to do with a needle "program". Did you see it any differently?

[forumreader]

No. My poor choice of words. This is not a "needle program." The CC voted about permitting pharmacies to sell needles w/o a prescription.

[camay2327]

I am glad that they voted it down. Kerri did vote for it and she has her reasons. Everyone can not always think the same on each issue that comes up.

I go out with my metal detector, I have for years, and one place that was the worst for me was under the boardwalk down in Santa Cruz. I guess that is where a lot of the druggies went to shoot up.

I always use a metal basket when on the beach and when I hear a signal I scoop up the dirt with the basket and shake it to see what is left inside. I came up with a lot of used needles under the boardwalk.

If they sold all the needles that the drug users wanted, we would have many many more of them laying around for kids or others to get stuck and possibly get infected.

Thanks City Council.

Cal

[bishmasterb]

BUT, what about the fact that the sober guys finally agreed to give women the right to vote??  Then we let them get drunk again . 

Sort of.

Prohibition actually went into effect on 1/16/1920. Women's suffrage was proposed to the states on 6/14/1919, but ratified on 8/26/1920.

So you could say it was a drunk Congress that proposed it, but sober states that approved it.

[tessieca]

I hope surrounding communities will follow suit.

I had been concerned that neighboring communities would reject it, leaving Folsom "the place to go" for needles. Now Rancho Cordova can struggle with that, but they've been pretty conservative about things like this.

[ducky]

I'm sorry I don't know how to set up a link to the Folsom Telegraph article about the council's decision. I, for one, was totally insulted by the way the reporter portrayed our city.

Does it really make us bad people that we don't want one more "Johnny Hopheads" in our "fair town"?

Are we really bad people because we don't want "more discarded needles with which kids could prick their fingers"? By the way, he left out the danger to our emergency service personnel and law enforcement personnel.

The reporter's cavalier "fair enough" response to that concern and the ambiguous statement of Ms. Trochanter that there was "no scientific evidence to suggest more needles meant more drug use" does nothing to provide proof that this program is worth the risk.


Is there no scientific evidence because there was none collected regarding more improperly disposed of needles? How did their research differentiate a decrease in HIV from the practice of safe sex versus clean needles? Vice versa how do they know their documented HIV cases didn't come from unprotected sex versus dirty needles? I'm seriously asking if there is some sort of scientific way through blood tests they can determine that.

If I'm given the choice between "Johnny Hophead" risking HIV infection through his use of an illegal drug and a child or firefighter risking contracting the same disease through an improperly disposed of needle, I'm sorry but "Johnny Hophead will lose every time.

I am glad the council didn't cave to this "feel good" program that has no benefit for our residents.

[forumreader]

ducky: Was this the piece you wanted?

Folsom Telegraph 10/4 Needle Article

I agree that the article shows a certain slant.

[ducky]

I think the article goes beyond a certain slant. As if that wasn't enough they allowed the same reporter to rant in an opinion piece on the next page. He could have made his point without bashing the entire community. I don't think the poor choice of the words "fair city" were unintentional.

[mylo]

Ha! I dunno, I think it's pretty "Fair and Balanced"

[ducky]

The Sacto Bee article was much more balanced.

Thanks for the link, Forumreader.

[CostcoLover]

I guess those Folsom drug addicts are going to have to drive in their Mercedes and Hummers to Yolo county to get their needles...

[mylo]

I guess those Folsom drug addicts are going to have to drive in their Mercedes and Hummers to Yolo county to get their needles...

I thought the Folsom junkies WERE the doctors who wrote the prescriptions!