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#61 bishmasterb

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE(Terry @ Oct 11 2005, 02:56 PM)
AB939 was passed in 1989 as a response to an increasing shortage of landfill capacity throughout California (and the nation) and an upsurge in interest in conserving California's natural resources. It requires all cities and counties within the state to reach a 50% waste reduction goal by the year 2000. (Using 1990 as a base year for waste generation data).  Folsom has an extension (as to most cities and counties) but I'm still unable to determine the date to which the city must meet the 50% reduction.

I have some questions.

So, presumably an extension was already allowed past 2000, I think you mentioned 2012?

Using 1990 as a base year, I assume it is still a per capita decrease in waste, is that correct?

Do you know if they are accounting for any waste generated by the recycling industry, OR the recyclable goods that were put into the recycling program but subsequently added to the normal waste landfills?

Lastly, do you know how much of a decrease has been obtained, we're only 6.5 years from 2012?

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 02:58 PM

Thanks for the info, Terry. I agree we should do our best to "waste not, want not."

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE(bishmasterb @ Oct 11 2005, 02:13 PM)
I have some questions.

So, presumably an extension was already allowed past 2000, I think you mentioned 2012?  That has changed on a city by city basis - see notes below

Using 1990 as a base year, I assume it is still a per capita decrease in waste, is that correct?  The base year could also have been changed by the Board's permission 

Do you know if they are accounting for any waste generated by the recycling industry, OR the recyclable goods that were put into the recycling program but subsequently added to the normal waste landfills?  I believe this involves only recycling by methods that are under the perview of the City utility collection of waste.

Lastly, do you know how much of a decrease has been obtained, we're only 6.5 years from 2012?  I believe we are getting extensions as we need them based on successes and goals we expect to meet, and we're currently aiming for 50% by 2006, which again may be extended.

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There are phone numbers in this link you can call with specific information as to how Folsom is doing. But like I said before, it's to all our benefit to fully participate in this program.

Here's the source for a lot of the information where you can input the city of Folsom and come up with the % each year that's been approved to meet the requirements.

http://www.ciwmb.ca....IS/jurpgmsu.asp

Also, here's the whole shebang about AB939 and what it created, how it was to be monitored and followed:

AB 939 (Sher)--The Integrated Waste Management Act--Established the "California Integrated Waste Management Act (IWMA) of 1989." Repealed the majority of Title 7.3 of the Government Code, regulating solid waste management, and codified the new Act in the Public Resources Code. Also repealed provisions of the Health and Safety Code, related to garbage and refuse disposal, and codified them in the Public Resources Code. Established an integrated waste management hierarchy to guide the Board and local agencies in implementation, in order of priority: (1) source reduction, (2) recycling and composting, and (3) environmentally safe transformation and land disposal. Included the following major provisions:
· California Integrated Waste Management Board--Replaced the part-time Solid Waste Management Board with a six-member California Integrated Waste Management Board (CIWMB). Required the new Board to include: one member appointed by the Governor with private sector experience in the solid waste industry; one member appointed by the Governor who has served as an elected or appointed official of a non-profit environmental protection organization, whose principle purpose is to promote recycling and the protection of air and water quality; two members appointed by the Governor who shall represent the public; one member appointed by the Senate Committee on Rules who shall represent the public; and one member appointed by the Speaker of the Assembly who shall represent the public.
· Integrated Waste Management Planning--Replaced the County Solid Waste Management Plan (CoSWMP) with an Integrated Waste Management Plan (IWMP). Required each county to establish a task force to coordinate the development of city Source Reduction and Recycling Elements (SRREs) and a countywide siting element . Required each city, by 7/1/91, to prepare, adopt and submit a SRRE to the county which includes the following components: waste characterization; source reduction; recycling; composting; solid waste facility capacity; education and public information; funding; special waste (asbestos, sewage sludge, etc.); and household hazardous waste. Also required each county, by 1/1/91, to prepare a SRRE for its unincorporated area, with the same components described above, and a countywide siting element, specifying areas for transformation or disposal sites to provide capacity for solid waste generated in the jurisdiction which cannot be reduced or recycled for a 15 year period. Required each county to prepare, adopt, and submit to the Board an Integrated Waste Management Plan (IWMP), which includes all of the elements described above, according to the following schedule: by 1/1/92 for counties with less than 5 years landfill capacity; by 1/1/93 for counties with 5 to 8 years landfill capacity; by 1/1/94 for counties with more than 8 years landfill capacity.
· Waste Diversion Mandates--Required each city or county plan to include an implementation schedule which shows: diversion of 25 percent of all solid waste from landfill or transformation facilities by January 1, 1995 through source reduction, recycling, and composting activities; and, diversion of 50 percent of all solid waste by January 1, 2000 through source reduction, recycling, and composting activities. Excluded agricultural wastes, inert wastes and other wastes not normally disposed of at landfills. Authorized any plan submitted after 1/1/95 to include up to 10 percent transformation in achieving its 50 percent diversion goal, provided front-end removal of recyclable materials and other specified conditions are met. Authorized the Board to exempt a city or county from these goals or to reduce the requirements if the city or county demonstrates that attainment of the goals is not feasible due to the small geographic size of the jurisdiction and the small quantity of waste generated. Authorized the Board to establish an alternative goal to the 50 percent requirement, after 1/1/95, if the Board finds that the local agency is effectively implementing all source reduction, recycling, and composting measures to the maximum extent feasible. Also authorized the Board to reduce the goals for any city or county which, prior to 1/1/89, disposed of 75 percent or more of its solid waste by transformation, provided that attainment of the 25 percent or 50 percent waste diversion goals would impair existing contracts, or would interfere with repayment of debt incurred to finance a transformation project.
· Board Review of IWMPs and Plan Implementation--Required the Board to approve or disapprove a city element or a county plan within 120 days of receipt. Required the Board to issue a notice of deficiency with specific recommendations for corrections, if an element or plan is disapproved, providing 120 days in which the city or county must correct the document and resubmit it to the Board. Required the Board to conduct a public hearing on any element or plan which still fails to meet the requirements after the revision, and authorized the Board to impose administrative civil penalties of up to $10,000 per day for failure to submit an adequate plan. Also required the Board to review the implementation of each SRRE at least once every two years. Authorized the Board, if it finds, after a public hearing, that the city or county has failed to implement its element, to issue an order of compliance with a specific schedule. Also authorized the Board to impose administrative civil penalties of up to $10,000 per day for continued failure to comply. Required each city to review its element and each county its plan at least once every five years to correct deficiencies, comply with the waste diversion requirements, and revise documents as necessary.
· Permitting and Enforcement--Established a comprehensive statewide system of permitting, inspections, enforcement, and maintenance for solid waste facilities. Required the Board to adopt minimum standards for solid waste handling and disposal to protect air, water, and land from pollution. Required the Board, by 1/1/94, to establish minimum standards requiring operators of solid waste facilities to provide assurance of financial ability to respond to possible damage claims. Required the Board, by 8/1/91, to prepare and adopt certification regulations specifying requirements that a local agency shall meet before being designated as a Local Enforcement Agency (LEA). Required the Board, in conjunction with an inspection conducted by an LEA, to conduct at least one inspection per year of each solid waste facility in the state.
· Financing--Authorized local jurisdictions to impose fees based on the types or amounts of solid waste generated to be used to pay actual costs incurred in preparing, adopting and implementing integrated waste management plans, as well as in setting and collecting the local fees. Also provided that state planning, implementation and operating costs be funded by a fee collected by every operator of a solid waste landfill and paid quarterly to the Board of Equalization, based on all solid waste disposed of at each disposal site, after 1/1/90. Set the fee initially at 50 cents per ton through 6/30/90; at an amount sufficient to generate the 1990-91 funding, but not to exceed 75 cents per ton from 7/1/90 through 6/30/91; and, from 7/1/91, at an amount sufficient to generate funding for each fiscal year, but not to exceed one dollar per ton. (Chapter 1095

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 06:04 PM

Forget 2012. The deadline is 2005. The Waste Board's website states:
Jurisdictions that did not meet the 50 percent diversion requirement in 2000 may petition the Board for one or more time extensions, but not beyond January 1, 2006.

However, I had been told the fine was $10,000 per day. But reading more of the the Waste Board's website, it says up to$10,000 per day. So perhaps they would start with far smaller penalties.

More importantly, it also says the following about who would be fined:
A jurisdiction that does not meet the 50 percent diversion requirement and does not receive a time extension, a "good faith effort" finding, or an alternative diversion goal...

Sounds like there are at least TWO other "outs" besides a time extension to prevent fines. So I'd suspect that Folsom will get its diversion rate up above 50% before they run out of ways to avoid the fine. At least, I hope so.

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 06:47 PM

Thanks for the info. Sadly, that's probably beyond my attention span on this issue.

I was mainly curious about the extensions or exemptions as I find it rather unbelievable that there will be a 50% reduction in waste going to landfills, over ANY period of time, even on a per capita basis. From what kanda posted it sounds like there are several ways out.

Curious, what about the benefits of landfill waste: recent advancemens in energy creation for instance. Does anyone know if the law allows for exemptions based on this?

Someone should put a list together of everything the government said we'd be doing by 2005:

* 50% reduction in waste
* mandatory HiDef broadcasting, with NTSC broadcasting disabled
* 10% Zero Emmission Vehicles

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 08:27 PM

Are there liners for the blue cans or can you put your recyleables in plastic bags?
Throwing empty cans of food in there will attract insects and make some mess and splatter.


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Posted 05 December 2005 - 12:00 AM

^ if it's dirty, they don't want it anyways. If you have tin cans, I would recommend cleaning them out first.


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Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:10 AM

QUOTE(john @ Dec 5 2005, 01:00 AM) View Post

^ if it's dirty, they don't want it anyways. If you have tin cans, I would recommend cleaning them out first.



I rinse the food cans out to get most of the food out, but some tin cans don't rinse out well enough that there is no odors and bits of food stuck to them.
I don't have time to try to clean out the interior of food cans out with soap and a scrub brush.
Can you put the recycled items in plastic bags to keep the trash can interior clean and keep animals and insects away that would be attracted to the food smells?

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:18 AM

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I rinse the food cans out to get most of the food out, but some tin cans don't rinse out well enough that there is no odors and bits of food stuck to them.
I don't have time to try to clean out the interior of food cans out with soap and a scrub brush.
Can you put the recycled items in plastic bags to keep the trash can interior clean and keep animals and insects away that would be attracted to the food smells?


An article in the latest Folsom newsletter specifically requests that bags not be used. Seems odd, since I don't think most people will wash out their cans and bottles, thus getting the paper products wet and dirty. Also, when you don't bag paper -- it tends to fly in the wind as the garbage trucks empty the cans, and then the streets are littered with paper.

We've always separated paper/cardboard from bottles and cans by bagging them, but throwing everything into the bin without bags is what the city wants.
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Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE(Resume Lady @ Dec 5 2005, 10:18 AM) View Post

An article in the latest Folsom newsletter specifically requests that bags not be used. Seems odd, since I don't think most people will wash out their cans and bottles, thus getting the paper products wet and dirty. Also, when you don't bag paper -- it tends to fly in the wind as the garbage trucks empty the cans, and then the streets are littered with paper.

We've always separated paper/cardboard from bottles and cans by bagging them, but throwing everything into the bin without bags is what the city wants.


I remember them saying not to use bags ***for green waste***. No mention about recycled items.
Yes the papers will also blow away in the wind if they aren't bagged besides the food smells and leaks from used and open aluminum cans.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:27 AM

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I remember them saying not to use bags ***for green waste***. No mention about recycled items.
Yes the papers will also blow away in the wind if they aren't bagged besides the food smells and leaks from used and open aluminum cans.


They specifically state: "Do not put your recyclables in plastic bags."

I've left a message for someone in the Smart Cart program to ask a few questions; they say to expect a return call in up to 48 hours.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 10:26 AM

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They specifically state: "Do not put your recyclables in plastic bags."

I've left a message for someone in the Smart Cart program to ask a few questions; they say to expect a return call in up to 48 hours.


I just received a return call from the recycling program (less than one hour as I start to type this post). Here's the gist of the explanation:

1) You can use paper bags for recyclables, but not plastic.

2) The city is recommending that people rinse out cans and bottles, minimizing the contamination to the paper products and minimizing odors/insect-attracting situations.

3) Small amounts of contamination to paper do not pose a problem.

4) To minimize paper blowing in the wind as the trucks are emptying your cans, you can recycle paper products in paper bags and staple them shut.

Evidently, 80% of Folsom is recycling correctly.
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Posted 05 December 2005 - 10:36 AM

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE(Resume Lady @ Dec 5 2005, 11:26 AM) View Post

I just received a return call from the recycling program (less than one hour as I start to type this post). Here's the gist of the explanation:

1) You can use paper bags for recyclables, but not plastic.

2) The city is recommending that people rinse out cans and bottles, minimizing the contamination to the paper products and minimizing odors/insect-attracting situations.

3) Small amounts of contamination to paper do not pose a problem.

4) To minimize paper blowing in the wind as the trucks are emptying your cans, you can recycle paper products in paper bags and staple them shut.

Evidently, 80% of Folsom is recycling correctly.


Ok, then I'll need to just throw cans that don't come clean with a quick rinse (sardines, chili, tomato paste etc.) into the normal trash.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 11:24 AM

QUOTE(Jaxx @ Dec 5 2005, 10:40 AM) View Post

Ok, then I'll need to just throw cans that don't come clean with a quick rinse (sardines, chili, tomato paste etc.) into the normal trash.


just put them in the recycle...

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