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[mylo]

True. But it comes down to service (hmmm, kind of like this Walmart versus smaller retailers discussion). I can walk into MBE toss them something with an address and they'll box it for me, and just take care of it. Generally with no wait.

Yep, I'm willing to pay for service and convenience!

The people at MBE have always been exceptionally friendly and efficient. I wish I could say the same for the post office.

[DrKoz23]

Thanks, redone.
What was wrong with leaving it industrial?

Mr Elliott would not make as much money. Think of the amount of money he and his corporation will make from leasing the land to WalMart on a prime piece of real estate along Hwy 50. Probably a lot more than any light industrial (office complex) that would have been built on the site.

Maybe that is why Elliott Homes was quoted in the paper on Sunday as saying WalMart would be a "good fit" for the land.

[ducky]

Mr Elliott would not make as much money. Think of the amount of money he and his corporation will make from leasing the land to WalMart on a prime piece of real estate along Hwy 50. Probably a lot more than any light industrial (office complex) that would have been built on the site.

Maybe that is why Elliott Homes was quoted in the paper on Sunday as saying WalMart would be a "good fit" for the land.

Well, it may be a "good fit" for Mr. Elliott and others who profit, but is it really a good fit for Folsom when it will most likely leave a blighted area behind? Not to mention loss of jobs. I am especially concerned about the current store because of Wal-Mart's track record in doing this to other communities.

[Dave Burrell]

Well, it may be a "good fit" for Mr. Elliott and others who profit, but is it really a good fit for Folsom when it will most likely leave a blighted area behind? Not to mention loss of jobs. I am especially concerned about the current store because of Wal-Mart's track record in doing this to other communities.

Thats exactly it Ducky - its a good fit for the profiteers but it will be a blight for us who live here.

It's dumb to put a 3rd wal-mart in this town and its incredibly stupid to put it right next to Costco and Sams Club - how many super sized stores do we need??? I dunno about everyone else but I never thought of Folsom as being a town that needed a bunch of discount super center stores - cripes its turning our town into Roseville

Hmmm, I wonder where Mr Elliot lives? Definately NOT in Folsom.

I checked out a friends house the other day that is a new Elliot Home - could they be any smaller? I can't believe how many houses they're trying to cram onto that land.

Elliots greed is going to turn this town into another Los Angeles

[benning]

The city should really look into this if refurbishing the old store is going to be part of the approval process.

Interesting idea. I would like to know how we can push for this. I'm sick and tired of 'throw away' neighborhoods and now 'throw away' business districts. We need to nip this in the bud before the area becomes blighted.

[ducky]

I like benning's term "throwaway neighborhoods." I don't know what good complaining will do since the only language spoken here is tax base. I think we should be making a wish list to fill the center after Wal-Mart does a half-hearted job of slapping on some new paint and squeezing in a grocery section in the old store before closing it.

Now, I do think Folsom could support two IN-N-Out Burgers, so if they want to do that it would be okay.

[bordercolliefan]

Interesting idea. I would like to know how we can push for this. I'm sick and tired of 'throw away' neighborhoods and now 'throw away' business districts. We need to nip this in the bud before the area becomes blighted.

Does the City Council have the fortitude to ever "Just Say No?"

As in: "No, thanks! We don't need a WalMart Supercenter because we already have a Wal-Mart... and a Costco... and a Sam's Club..."

If the old Wal-Mart closes in favor of the new Supercenter, I will be transferring my business to Target. I have no intention of driving several miles to the opposite (congested) end of town, to march up and down the endless aisles of a mega-warehouse just to get paper towel and napkins... Fuhgeddiboudit.

[mylo]

If the old Wal-Mart closes in favor of the new Supercenter, I will be transferring my business to Target. I have no intention of driving several miles to the opposite (congested) end of town, to march up and down the endless aisles of a mega-warehouse just to get paper towel and napkins... Fuhgeddiboudit.

Maybe existing loyal customers like you are the reason they just might refurbish the existing Wal-Mart?

[bordercolliefan]

Just moved here last month. There aren't any neighborhood drop boxes here? Crazy.

Actually, that's not exactly true. You know your big metal mailbox?? There should be one box in there that has a slot. That's for outgoing mail.

Some streets have large mailboxes with large slots -- they can even accomodate 8 x 12 flats.

So yes, you can mail your stuff without driving to the PO.

[john]

the post office discussion has been split in to another thread here:
http://www.tomatopag...wtopic=8659&hl=

[Orangetj]

Ah...Folsom....the land of ever increasing redundancy! We're like the Noah's Ark of big box business these days:

2 Walmarts within 5 miles
Costco and Sams Club within a mile
Best Buy and Circuit City within a mile
Lowes, OSH and Home Depot all within a few miles
etc, etc, etc.

I know that "progess" is a natural and unavoidable thing, but it is really amazing how much things change and how we seem to be on the path to being just another same-old urban sprawl town. I'm worried that in 20 years Folsom is going to start looking pretty blah when it's sea of tract homes (I live in one...I'm not trying to say anything bad about the owners), corporate giant big-box stores, strip malls and chain restaurants start to age.

When the paint starts to fade, the stucco starts to crack on the big box stores, the houses start to age and the overused streets start to get broken, what will set our town apart from Antelope, Roseville or Citrus Heights? In 20 years, what will set all of these towns apart from North Highlands or Rio Linda?

Why can't we, as a city, get together and say "Here's the type of town we want...?" I suppose we wouldn't all agree, but wouldn't it be nice if we could have a town that was filled with unique small & midsized businesses, light to moderate traffic, houses with big yards for our kids & pets to play in, neighborhood streets designed so as not to encourage people to use them as expressways, one of a kind restaurants, natural trees and topography incorporated into our neighborhoods, and so on?
Why do we resign ourselves to accepting that every hilltop must be leveled, that every oak must be cut down, that yards should be tiny, that enormous strip malls filled with the same stores as every other town are the ideal?

[kanda]

2 Walmarts within 5 miles
Costco and Sams Club within a mile
Best Buy and Circuit City within a mile
Lowes, OSH and Home Depot all within a few miles
etc, etc, etc.

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I actually LIKE choice.

I shop at both Costco & Sams.

I shop at Lowes & Home Depot.

I would (ocassionally) shop at Best Buy and Circuit City.

I don't mind having a choice at all.

(Note that doesn't include having TWO Walmarts. One is really enough for me.)

[Orangetj]

Meh...I don't mind choice, either, but I'm perfectly willing to drive someplace else to get it! Look, I realize that growth and change is inevitable, but I am somewhat saddened to see the small town atmosphere Folsom once had slowly evaporating and being replaced by the cookie cutter sameness so prevalent of urban sprawl.

[john]

Meh...I don't mind choice, either, but I'm perfectly willing to drive someplace else to get it! Look, I realize that growth and change is inevitable, but I am somewhat saddened to see the small town atmosphere Folsom once had slowly evaporating and being replaced by the cookie cutter sameness so prevalent of urban sprawl.

Agreed. Our planners should be encouraging more local small businesses, such as the incoming Goodfellas and Lockdown Brewing. What we don't need are more Starbucks, chain stores. While I agree that places like Home Depot are far superior to the small hardware stores of yesteryear, it saddens me that we don't see more new businesses.

[mylo]

Meh...I don't mind choice, either, but I'm perfectly willing to drive someplace else to get it! Look, I realize that growth and change is inevitable, but I am somewhat saddened to see the small town atmosphere Folsom once had slowly evaporating and being replaced by the cookie cutter sameness so prevalent of urban sprawl.

If you consider Broadstone it's own town, it IS like driving somewhere "else" to get it