Yeah but better than happy morticians and busy doctors and nurses!
Folsom Mom Drives Her Kid To A Fight
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ngilbert
, Mar 09 2007 05:41 AM
133 replies to this topic
#76
Posted 12 March 2007 - 10:52 AM
Yeah, but the janitors would be pretty p*ssed 
Yeah but better than happy morticians and busy doctors and nurses!
#77
Posted 12 March 2007 - 11:29 AM
You're all jumping to the conclusion that this one child should be labeled a "bully." If you read the article, the kid was called "emotional." What's the big deal?
Actually, when I was a kid, being called "emotional" was pretty much the worst insult there was.
Of course, I went to the Vulcan Science Academy for Boys, so my experience may not be typical
"Here's the last toast of the evening: Here's to those who still believe. All the losers will be winners, all the givers will receive. Here's to trouble-free tomorrows, may your sorrows all be small. Here's to the losers: bless them all
Sinatra "Here's to the Losers"
Sinatra "Here's to the Losers"
#78
Posted 12 March 2007 - 06:15 PM
PampChefLady
Your 2 cents is worth 2 million!! Well said....
We need to teach our children to ignore, be a bigger person, don't respond and if it gets truly too much for the child to handle, teach the child how to ask the correct people for help.
I use these steps with my kids. First, ask the person to stop. And when that doesn't work, TELL them to stop! If that doesn't work, go to a trusted adult and say, "I have a problem that I have already tried to solve myself by asking and then telling the other person to stop. It isn't working and I don't know what to do next. Can you please help?". It works every time.
Your 2 cents is worth 2 million!! Well said....
We need to teach our children to ignore, be a bigger person, don't respond and if it gets truly too much for the child to handle, teach the child how to ask the correct people for help.
I use these steps with my kids. First, ask the person to stop. And when that doesn't work, TELL them to stop! If that doesn't work, go to a trusted adult and say, "I have a problem that I have already tried to solve myself by asking and then telling the other person to stop. It isn't working and I don't know what to do next. Can you please help?". It works every time.
#79
Posted 12 March 2007 - 07:08 PM
PampChefLady
Your 2 cents is worth 2 million!! Well said....
We need to teach our children to ignore, be a bigger person, don't respond and if it gets truly too much for the child to handle, teach the child how to ask the correct people for help.
I use these steps with my kids. First, ask the person to stop. And when that doesn't work, TELL them to stop! If that doesn't work, go to a trusted adult and say, "I have a problem that I have already tried to solve myself by asking and then telling the other person to stop. It isn't working and I don't know what to do next. Can you please help?". It works every time.
Your 2 cents is worth 2 million!! Well said....
We need to teach our children to ignore, be a bigger person, don't respond and if it gets truly too much for the child to handle, teach the child how to ask the correct people for help.
I use these steps with my kids. First, ask the person to stop. And when that doesn't work, TELL them to stop! If that doesn't work, go to a trusted adult and say, "I have a problem that I have already tried to solve myself by asking and then telling the other person to stop. It isn't working and I don't know what to do next. Can you please help?". It works every time.
I absolutely agree...children need to be given the tools and learn the benefits of handling problems themselves when they can. Just yesterday at bedtime my six year old breaks out in tears about a same age boy in her afterschool program who was teasing her last week. First she was embarassed to share with me what he was saying. She said it was "potty" talk. After reminding her she could tell me anything, she told me he was making comments about her private parts while thrusting a basketball "down there". His comments were quite childish and typically inappropriate. I asked her what she had said to him when he did it. She said she called him a "meanie". I told her the best way to handle situations like that is to tell him "I don't like that kind of talk and want you to STOP!" I had her practice saying it until it came out strong and confident, like she meant business. I told her if he continued next time to tell her teacher/yard supervisor. And I hugged her and told her I knew she'd be able to handle it next time and to keep me posted.
Now, having said all that, was I not fighting the mamma bear urge to go find the kid at school the next day and tell the kid to stay clear of my daughter? Was I not thinking maybe I should have a talk with the afterschool care supervisor? Did it not cross my mind that this kid's comments in today's PC environment could land the little guy in hot water...like suspension or worse? Of course those and many other thoughts crossed my mind but in the end it just seemed prudent the best thing was to teach my daughter the skills to take care of these things herself and hope it resolves with her own doing. I think it was BCF who recently commented on the need for girls to learn not to be "victims" but to understand how to deal with such things with confidence and assertiveness.
#80
Posted 14 March 2007 - 12:50 PM
Out of the 2 parents, it's the parent of the bully who should be most ashamed.
Actually - like it said in the papers, my son laughed at a name this boy was called. The last time I checked laughing is not a bully. To be clear, my son is in a lot of trouble for agreeing to meet this boy at the gas station. He is in a lot of trouble for not walking away from the gas station. He is in a lot of trouble for even laughing at this boy. If she would have went to the school, the school would have notified me and none of this would have happened. However, whats done is done. The media knew about it before I did. To be honest, I wish the whole thing would just go away. For my family, for their family, for everybody. I just wish the whole issue would die! Name calling of this lady - is no better and is not going to help anything. Am I ashamed of my son - no. Am I disappointed that he is agreeing to fight anybody - ABSOLUTLY, and that is being delt with in the privacy of my home. Has he been talked to about the feelings of other - you betcha!!!!!!
In addition - something the papers and news did not report. This child and my son had already shook hands and mended things after this, but before it came out in the news. They forgot - why can't everybody else?
#82
Posted 14 March 2007 - 01:25 PM
... shook hands and mended things after this, but before it came out in the news. They forgot - why can't everybody else?
It sounds like you are a good parent and would have and are dealing with your child the way a parent should. However, this isn't about the kids fighting, them kissing and making up, or even the reason why they were fighting. We can forget about two kids being kids. We should not let the mother off the hook for what she did. If the law doesn't stop people, maybe sensationalism and some public humiliation will be a reality check for stupid parents like this and make them think twice before doing something so moronic.
"Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!" -- George Carlin
#83
Posted 15 March 2007 - 11:29 AM
I just got a news alert from CBS...they have decided not to charge the mom!
#85
Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:55 PM
#86
Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:13 PM
Some Folsomites are like the ancient Romans gleefully watching a gladiator fight and ever so ready to do the "thumbs down"
#87
Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:59 PM
back in olden day the school would have had the boys put on boxing gloves and get it on with supervision
this coulda happened because of the soccer mom syndrom and its fun to see parents yelling at their kids at games wanting them to be more agressive. always thought the biggest yellers were the ones that sat on the bench during games.
I can't believe the police got involved on someting this little. sorta makes you think they have too much time on their hands, but the da from the tv 13 story got it sorted out right.
these are some sure crazy times, makes me long for the old days
this coulda happened because of the soccer mom syndrom and its fun to see parents yelling at their kids at games wanting them to be more agressive. always thought the biggest yellers were the ones that sat on the bench during games.
I can't believe the police got involved on someting this little. sorta makes you think they have too much time on their hands, but the da from the tv 13 story got it sorted out right.
these are some sure crazy times, makes me long for the old days
#88
Posted 16 March 2007 - 09:00 AM
back in olden day the school would have had the boys put on boxing gloves and get it on with supervision
this coulda happened because of the soccer mom syndrom and its fun to see parents yelling at their kids at games wanting them to be more agressive. always thought the biggest yellers were the ones that sat on the bench during games.
I can't believe the police got involved on someting this little. sorta makes you think they have too much time on their hands, but the da from the tv 13 story got it sorted out right.
these are some sure crazy times, makes me long for the old days
this coulda happened because of the soccer mom syndrom and its fun to see parents yelling at their kids at games wanting them to be more agressive. always thought the biggest yellers were the ones that sat on the bench during games.
I can't believe the police got involved on someting this little. sorta makes you think they have too much time on their hands, but the da from the tv 13 story got it sorted out right.
these are some sure crazy times, makes me long for the old days
The video will come out soon on this. I am sure you all will make your own decision. From what I heard, the DA made the wrong decision.....The DA didn't even go and talk to the 2 adult witnesses who saw the whole thing. They were on all the news channels yesterday and they are shocked the DA didn't file. Old Jan Scully needs to go!
#89
Posted 16 March 2007 - 01:53 PM
my take is there is stupic and then there is criminally stupid and the mom in this case was just stupid
#90
Posted 16 March 2007 - 02:42 PM
Some Folsomites are like the ancient Romans gleefully watching a gladiator fight and ever so ready to do the "thumbs down"
I think you're confusing Folsomites with the mother who drove her kid to a fight. Instead of yelling "Submit him" as claimed by her attorney in the newspaper, or "Hit him" as others claimed," she should have been yelling, "Use your words."
I agree the embarrassment is probably punishment enough and this is something the families and school should work out.
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