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#76 old soldier

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:14 PM

I don't think of Johnny Cash as biblical, but a man whose songs reached out to the common man and either made you feel good or think about the meaning of the song. I loved how every show started. Hello I'm Johnny Cash

he was a flawed man like most of us and his live was also a love story. the success of the movie says to me that lots and lots of folks feel the same way about him

if we had the name on the bridge it would draw tourists and there might even be a chance to have some kind of festival called " johnny cash days" at the rodeo grounds with beer and country western music

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE(Darthvader @ Jul 15 2008, 11:26 AM) View Post
A footnote at best. I still fail to see the hype around this guy and his Folsom "legacy."

Johnny Cash could leap "across" Folsom Lake in a single bound!
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE(mylo @ Jul 15 2008, 03:50 PM) View Post
Johnny Cash could leap "across" Folsom Lake in a single bound!

he doesn't need to leap across it.... the is a bridge that goes across it isn't there?
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 07:18 AM

Hey maybe we could get this kid to come sing at the new bridge - when it becomes officially named Johnny Cash Crossing

This kid is amazing - it's so hard to believe how young he is when you hear him sing Ring of Fire http://www.katu.com/...t...deo=pop&t=a

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 07:43 AM

If you are not happy with the name the Council chose, you should let us know. Andy suggested on KFBK on Monday that people should contact the Council Members - I did the same on KNCI this morning.

For the person who suggested inviting Roseanne Cash to the opening of the bridge, in her communication of the family's support, she indicated that she and her siblings would be honored to attend.

Aside from being one of the best places to live in the US, for all the reasons we all know, the City of Folsom is somewhat of a household name, not only in the US, but in Europe as well. The City is recognizable to people because of Folsom Prison and that recognition is entirely because of Johnny Cash. I believe we should celebrate that fact and stop pretending Folsom Prison does not exist.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 07:57 AM

Kerri: What are your thoughts on the statement a few pages back that there are really two phases to this? One, to get rid of the linguistically incorrect "Folsom Lake Crossing". Then, secondly, to come up with a new name?

I can understand the arguments against Johnny Cash, and those should perhaps be revisited, but to me the priority is to fix the mistake of a naming a bridge after a lake that it does not cross.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:05 AM

QUOTE(Kerri Howell @ Jul 15 2008, 09:01 AM) View Post
For those who like the idea of more money in the City's coffers - if we name it after Johnny Cash, there will be an increase in tourism. You may not drive over it because of who it is named for, but there are lots of others who will - just because they can. I was at the Prison a few weeks ago, with a TV Crew. During the 30 minutes we were at the main gate, 5 car loads of people drove up to take pictures near the entrance to the old prison, and asked it they could go on a tour (which of course they can not). That was around 4:30 on a Wednesday afternoon. The Chamber gets about 100 hits per day with people looking for info on the prison and Johnny Cash. If people come to Folsom to drive across the bridge, they will stop for lunch or dinner, shop at the Factory Stores, maybe stay at a hotel and, as one of my friends said, maybe even buy gasoline - that has the potential to add up to a fair amount of spending here in town. Naming it anything that does not refer to Johnny Cash will lead to NO additional tourism - so why waste that opportunity?


If people are already driving to Folsom to see the prison, how many more would drive to see a bridge that has nothing to do with him? Its not a famous bridge like Chappaquidic?

Maybe you should get the Chamber to do a better job or promoting the prison, since that is what Cash is known for?

There is a gas shortage and wasting gas driving across some dam Bridge that has nothing to do with Cash is simply wasteful. Besides we already have enough traffic on our bridges.

Naming the dam Bridge after Johny Cash would be nothing more than a cheesey publicity stunt and I'm glad the council had enough class to avoid going there!

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:11 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Jul 16 2008, 09:05 AM) View Post
If people are already driving to Folsom to see the prison, how many more would drive to see a bridge that has nothing to do with him? Its not a famous bridge like Chappaquidic?

Maybe you should get the Chamber to do a better job or promoting the prison, since that is what Cash is known for?

There is a gas shortage and wasting gas driving across some dam Bridge that has nothing to do with Cash is simply wasteful. Besides we already have enough traffic on our bridges.

Naming the dam Bridge after Johny Cash would be nothing more than a cheesey publicity stunt and I'm glad the council had enough class to avoid going there!




That is probably the best argument I have seen. I agree.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:14 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Jul 16 2008, 09:05 AM) View Post
If people are already driving to Folsom to see the prison, how many more would drive to see a bridge that has nothing to do with him? Its not a famous bridge like Chappaquidic?

Maybe you should get the Chamber to do a better job or promoting the prison, since that is what Cash is known for?

There is a gas shortage and wasting gas driving across some dam Bridge that has nothing to do with Cash is simply wasteful. Besides we already have enough traffic on our bridges.

Naming the dam Bridge after Johny Cash would be nothing more than a cheesey publicity stunt and I'm glad the council had enough class to avoid going there!

Agreed. It's 'style over substance', if you ask me.

Normally that's a Liberal thing...but that's another thread.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:19 AM

Can those of you who are against naming the bridge after Cash at least concede that "Folsom Lake Crossing" is a stupid name?

Do you have any suggestions for more appropriate names? Or are you just going to huff and puff about how much more right you are than those who are actually trying to be productive?

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:24 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Jul 16 2008, 09:05 AM) View Post
If people are already driving to Folsom to see the prison, how many more would drive to see a bridge that has nothing to do with him? Its not a famous bridge like Chappaquidic?


Perhaps folks coming from Roseville/Granite Bay/Rocklin/Sacramento driving down Douglas to Folsom-Auburn Rd will take that bridge to get into Folsom - not everyone drives on Hwy 50 to get here. Never heard of Chappaquidic bridge what is that famous for and where is it?

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Maybe you should get the Chamber to do a better job or promoting the prison, since that is what Cash is known for?
Maybe you could help as a volunteer?

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There is a gas shortage and wasting gas driving across some dam Bridge that has nothing to do with Cash is simply wasteful. Besides we already have enough traffic on our bridges.


Sorry Robert but that's a weak argument. the bridge will actually SAVE time and gas as its a shortcut to Granite Bay/Roseville/Rocklin etc...

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Naming the dam Bridge after Johny Cash would be nothing more than a cheesey publicity stunt and I'm glad the council had enough class to avoid going there!


Sorry Robert but I disagree - when I have visitors in town - I almost always take them to see the prison that they KNOW Folsom is very famous for - in fact, 10 out of 10 of the latest visitors we've had over the past few years have asked me to show them the prison

Like it or not, Folsom is mainly known because of that prison - for the one or two people out there who don't know that - they must be living under a rock to never have heard of Folsom Prison or Johnny Cash playing there and making a song about it

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:27 AM

QUOTE(Jolene @ Jul 16 2008, 09:19 AM) View Post
Can those of you who are against naming the bridge after Cash at least concede that "Folsom Lake Crossing" is a stupid name?

Do you have any suggestions for more appropriate names? Or are you just going to huff and puff about how much more right you are than those who are actually trying to be productive?

No offense, of course.



or if they don't give a crap what it's named - then don't bother commenting against those of us who would like to see it have a better - more sane name

I also agree - even if it's not named after Cash - something, anything would be better then the current choice which makes no sense whatsoever because it DOES NOT CROSS FOLSOM LAKE - that's actually very embarrassing that name was chosen because it doesn't look very intelligent due to the fact it makes no sense whatsoever.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:30 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Jul 16 2008, 09:05 AM) View Post
If people are already driving to Folsom to see the prison, how many more would drive to see a bridge that has nothing to do with him? Its not a famous bridge like Chappaquidic?

The fact that without any publicity, people come to Folsom to see the prison and seek out the Johnny Cash connection only proves that if we were to publicize this connection, and name the bridge after him, more people would come, and the theory is, they'd spend money at Folsom businesses while here.

Maybe you should get the Chamber to do a better job or promoting the prison, since that is what Cash is known for?

I agree. They should do a better job of it, not just with the prison, but connecting him to the city itself.

There is a gas shortage and wasting gas driving across some dam Bridge that has nothing to do with Cash is simply wasteful. Besides we already have enough traffic on our bridges.

People 'waste' money to drive across the country to see the Golden Gate Bride, or across town to see the Kings, or to Sutter Street for Thursday Night Market. We can't tell them how to spend their gas money.

Naming the dam Bridge after Johny Cash would be nothing more than a cheesey publicity stunt and I'm glad the council had enough class to avoid going there!

When it comes to a statement like that, it does make me wonder how it would be perceived. I know that millions of Johnny Cash fans would love it, but would it seem silly to the rest of the country? Would they care? Should we care? Do we take ourselves too seriously?


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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:32 AM

QUOTE(davburr @ Jul 16 2008, 09:27 AM) View Post
or if they don't give a crap what it's named - then don't bother commenting against those of us who would like to see it have a better - more sane name


I'm not against renaming it. I just don't agree that the bridge will bring more tourists or Johnny Cash fans. It's been mentioned over and over that we're already well known because of the prison and Johnny Cash.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:52 AM

QUOTE(rlsliger @ Jul 16 2008, 09:32 AM) View Post
I'm not against renaming it. I just don't agree that the bridge will bring more tourists or Johnny Cash fans. It's been mentioned over and over that we're already well known because of the prison and Johnny Cash.

Well-known is one thing, marketing is another, and even if it only brings in a few extra visitors a year, it will still make news, keeping Folsom on folks' minds as a place to visit, do business and live.

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