Lol. That was great. I have been following that whole incident for awhile, and there are now several prison guards that were "outed" that are worried. The gangs in the prisons can easily contact other members on the outside. Nice job journal news.
You know what ws the stupidest aspect of the Journal's decision? The map doesn't include long rifles or shotguns...only pistols. So the type of guns that the libs are going apesh** over weren't even listed on the map.
Constitution & Gun Control
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:41 AM
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:25 AM
to the best of my knowledge, fully automatic weapons have been outlawed for a long time at the Federal level.When did Ca outlaw automatic rifles?
Im curious if the ratio per capita deaths by guns has significantly lessened since that time, in california
CA did not outlaw semi-auto, but they did pass a crappy "assault weapon" ban that is based on appearance and not on mechanical operation.
Now, did anyone read the Sac Bee today? Article about how guns have increased by millions in CA while gun violence has decreased over the last 10 years.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:49 PM
Logan, you have to love it, right.
I wish I had my gun back and may be purchasing one before to long.
My wife hates guns and doesnt want them in the house.
I wish I had my gun back and may be purchasing one before to long.
My wife hates guns and doesnt want them in the house.
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Whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount "up to and including their life".
That is HONOR, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:54 PM
to the best of my knowledge, fully automatic weapons have been outlawed for a long time at the Federal level.
CA did not outlaw semi-auto, but they did pass a crappy "assault weapon" ban that is based on appearance and not on mechanical operation.
Now, did anyone read the Sac Bee today? Article about how guns have increased by millions in CA while gun violence has decreased over the last 10 years.
You can own a full auto if you can afford it. Totally legal to do. I think the transfer stamp is a $200 fee for a full auto (machine gun). The problem with machine guns is that they are very expensive and rare. If you have a legal BAR, Thompson, or MG42 from WW2 (registered before the 1968 NFA law) they are easily worth $25,000 and more. I think a German STG 44 is worth $50,000. Chris
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:46 PM
Yes, I know if you get a special permit, you can own some fully automatic weapons, but it is neither cheap or easy and you won't find them for sale at your local sporting goods store. In general, it is illegal to own one.You can own a full auto if you can afford it. Totally legal to do. I think the transfer stamp is a $200 fee for a full auto (machine gun). The problem with machine guns is that they are very expensive and rare. If you have a legal BAR, Thompson, or MG42 from WW2 (registered before the 1968 NFA law) they are easily worth $25,000 and more. I think a German STG 44 is worth $50,000. Chris
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:49 PM
Still no one answer question. When did law take effect, and has mass murders in the US dipped since that law took place?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:54 PM
Ugh....folks, a person can legally own a semi-automatic handgun with a 10-shot clip, and be perfectly capable of using it properly and storing it properly. [Mod edit]. Please get a grip....no pun intended.
I suppose you [mod edit] also wish that law enforcement had no guns either.
But I must admit, you amuse me.
I suppose you [mod edit] also wish that law enforcement had no guns either.
But I must admit, you amuse me.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:46 PM
Yes, I know if you get a special permit, you can own some fully automatic weapons, but it is neither cheap or easy and you won't find them for sale at your local sporting goods store. In general, it is illegal to own one.
No special permit needed, just fill out the form, buy the weapon, and pay the $200 tax. California might be a different story though....... There are some newly made full automatics that go for $6000 to $7000 I believe.
See here: http://www.atf.gov/f...chine-guns.html
And I do have a have a federal firearms license for curio and relic rifles, it's called an "03 FFL". I can purchase rifles older than 50 years of age and have them sent right to my door through the US Mail or Fed Ex.... No waiting period, no going through a gun store, no fees, oh the joy....! Chris
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:23 PM
Still no one answer question. When did law take effect, and has mass murders in the US dipped since that law took place?
Mass murders have nothing to do with laws-- most are done with stolen or 2nd party guns....
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:32 PM
ok, well that is your belief.Mass murders have nothing to do with laws-- most are done with stolen or 2nd party guns....
the question is... has mass killings gone up since laws on fully auto fire arms was tightened down in Ca?
Next question...Has mass killings in CA gone down since the beginning of semi-auto gun control laws in CA?
Logically the next question--will any more laws really stop mass killlings?
I dont think any of the gun lovers or the pro gun control persons on this forum want to compare historical numbers in ca.
Why is that?
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:27 PM
ok, well that is your belief.
the question is... has mass killings gone up since laws on fully auto fire arms was tightened down in Ca?
Next question...Has mass killings in CA gone down since the beginning of semi-auto gun control laws in CA?
Logically the next question--will any more laws really stop mass killlings?
I dont think any of the gun lovers or the pro gun control persons on this forum want to compare historical numbers in ca.
Why is that?
Again I state that Mass Killings have nothing to do with the laws--- check it out as that is the fact !
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Reality, what a concept!
FACTS - JUST THE FACTS MA'AM!
FACTS - JUST THE FACTS MA'AM!
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:10 PM
The Dude is probably wasting his time presenting facts.
Liberals are "emotions-based" and "feelings-based"...they are not "facts-based". That's why they flounder around when they try to argue their point.
Liberals also tend to feel superior to others...which is a whole 'nother thread to have someday...or maybe not.
Liberals are "emotions-based" and "feelings-based"...they are not "facts-based". That's why they flounder around when they try to argue their point.
Liberals also tend to feel superior to others...which is a whole 'nother thread to have someday...or maybe not.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:28 PM
John, or a mod, can you please move this to politics? Thx
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:36 PM
Sorry....I will edit/delete my post...I don't want to cause trouble.
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