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[giacomo]

Question on CNN today: Should the US ban airplanes arriving from Liberia or Sierra Leone?   not sure that is the answer but worth looking into.

[bordercolliefan]

Well, this individual did not fly directly from Liberia to the U.S.  He made 2 or more connections.  So that would not be as easy as it sounds. 

[nomad]

we can deal with this virus if we are vigilant.  those who get here with the disease are like the embers of a big wild fire leaping ahead of the blaze.  this is going to likely be happening throughout the world as the wildfire grows in Africa.  they said on NPR this morning there are something like 5 new cases an hour in Liberia and Sierra Leone is also rapidly spreading.  If there are truly 1,000,000 in Africa by the end of the year as predicted, its inevitable more cases are going to occur here and abroad.  However, we can contain it and treat it, unlike third world countries.

 

I'd be willing to wager that these #'s coming out of Africa are horribly under what the reality is.

[4thgenFolsomite]

If I were in Africa and I thought I had ebola, I would probably do anything I could to get to America or Europe.  Being in Africa would be a death sentence.  The guy in Texas had seen first hand someone rejected by a hospital in Liberia and made to go home and die.  They can see on the news that infected people are surviving here.  My guess is not many people are going to be honest under those circumstances when it comes to the "where have you been lately?" questions at the airports.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Question on CNN today: Should the US ban airplanes arriving from Liberia or Sierra Leone?   not sure that is the answer but worth looking into.

 

So people will fly from there to other countries and then to the U. S.

[nomad]

It's pretty obvious when you travel overseas where your originated your flight from. It wouldn't be hard to track this.

[bordercolliefan]

You could track it, yes, but how do you deal with it?  Suppose an Air France flight arrives from Paris at JFK.  Of the 400 passengers who disembark, one originated in Liberia and one in Sierra Leone.  Now what do we do with them? 

[nomad]

If you're flight started in Africa you don't get to enter the US. Seems pretty straightforward to me albeit a bit heavy handed and I doubt it will happen. The US can't keep the borders secure in any way, shape, or form.

[4thgenFolsomite]

I have friends from Uganda (eastern Africa).  Uganda is as far from the outbreak in western Africa as California is from New York.  Africa isn't a country.  Its a BIG CONTINENT.  Its impossible to block people from the entirety of that area.  and if someone flies out to a third country, let's say Egypt, and then flies to Frankfurt, how are you going to tell where they have been?

[nomad]

Stamps on the passport?

[supermom]

Question on CNN today: Should the US ban airplanes arriving from Liberia or Sierra Leone?   not sure that is the answer but worth looking into.

yes

If I were in Africa and I thought I had ebola, I would probably do anything I could to get to America or Europe.  Being in Africa would be a death sentence.  The guy in Texas had seen first hand someone rejected by a hospital in Liberia and made to go home and die.  They can see on the news that infected people are surviving here.  My guess is not many people are going to be honest under those circumstances when it comes to the "where have you been lately?" questions at the airports.

Dont the passports show it?

[4thgenFolsomite]

things are so corrupt in Africa you could easily get documents forged for a bribe.

[chris v]

 
I'd be willing to wager that these #'s coming out of Africa are horribly under what the reality is.

And that leads in to a conversation we had today while on break at work. How much are these numbers being downplayed and what is the reality. At what point or population percentage of infection does something drastic happen?

[bordercolliefan]

You know, it's beginning to look like this fellow knew he had a good chance of coming down with Ebola, and decided his best chance was to get to America asap before symptoms appeared.  Since he helped take care of an Ebola victim, he must have had a strong suspicion that's what he had when he first showed up at the hospital.  He was probably shocked they turned him away. 

 

It would be such a relief if none of the exposed individuals comes down with the disease.  Let's hope that's the case. 

 

It would be so hard to keep it from spreading among family members.  Of course one will take care of a sick family member--especially, any mother will take care of her child, putting her own life at risk.  This disease preys on people loving and caring for each other. 

[nomad]

And that leads in to a conversation we had today while on break at work. How much are these numbers being downplayed and what is the reality. At what point or population percentage of infection does something drastic happen?

 

New cases in Dallas, Hawaii, Utah, and Kentucky. Hold on to your hats folks, the ride is just starting.