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[DrKoz23]

Same here.

I guess you also hope that the government one day repeals our first amendment rights. You probably also hope the government regulates everything we see... hear... and do as well.

I can't wait to enjoy your thinking of how this country should be run! (And if you can't tell... there is just a bit of sarcasm in that statement!)

[TLC]

Hi,
I'm assuming you really intended this post for tessieca who wrote the original note that I had replied to - because I am in full support of Ms Teaz.
By the way - very good post - thank you!
Dave

Sorry. I am refering to the woman (or man) Tessieca. If she does indeed have nothing to gain here, one has to question all the effort she is putting into her hatred. I cannot find where she had been wronged by this couples store. Angry that you didn't think of it first? There are so many supportive people here. Right on! Glad to be free in America. I'm also a transplant to Folsom. By the way, weren't all the people in Folsom transplanted at one time or another in their family tree? Glad that there at people standing up for their rights and to see there a only a handful of bad apples being weeded out. Come on here folks! Get a life! Maybe we should all free up our time and hang out at the city hall so that we can say we are allowed to be included. Had to see what all the fuss is about. Very cool store! I must be off to spend my time productively. Best of luck. Can't always make everyone happy, but it does appear that the majority is here. Take a look at the views for this thread.

[TLC]

Same here.

But hey, if they win I will be able to see XXX hardcore stuffs right here in Folsom.  I don't have to go to Rancho any more.  How convenient. 

This whole thing is such a joke. 

Ha!! Had to reply to this. Picked up some juice for the family at the liquor store near the high school. Take it you are VERY new to Folsom. There are 2 liquor stores walking distance from Ms Teaz and right across from the school selling XXX and lots of it. So you need not continue to drive any great distance. I was also wondering if these conservative are the type who condem America's forces to keep piece in times of war. Then if we were overtaken by a greater power, they would be the ones feeding their own kin to the dogs. The self righteous tend to believe they need to impose their beliefs on others.

[cybertrano]

If you live in certain community, you conform to its codes. The same goes for business. You conform to the majority. It's too bad that the city changed its codes AFTER the shop came to the city.

I heard the same craps 'Folsom has liquor stores that sell XXX materials SO let add some more to it', or 'Folsom has plenty of crimes so let add more to it' . It's the careles attitudes like that that will eventually degrade, slowly but surely, the city to the likes of Rancho Cordova.

No, I am not new here in Folsom. Been here 7 years, Sacramento - 6 years.

Where did I state in my posts that 'The self righteous tend to believe they need to impose their beliefs on others.' ? You are assuming too much. This discussion has nothing to do with conservatives vs. liberals.

Ha!!  Had to reply to this.  Picked up some juice for the family at the liquor store near the high school.  Take it you are VERY new to Folsom.  There are 2 liquor stores walking distance from Ms Teaz and right across from the school selling XXX and lots of it.  So you need not continue to drive any great distance.  I was also wondering if these conservative are the type who condem America's forces to keep piece in times of war.  Then if we were overtaken by a greater power, they would be the ones feeding their own kin to the dogs.  The self righteous tend to believe they need to impose their beliefs on others.

[cybertrano]

Yes I hope so.

I guess you also hope that the government one day repeals our first amendment rights.  You probably also hope the government regulates everything we see... hear... and do as well. 

I can't wait to enjoy your thinking of how this country should be run! (And if you can't tell... there is just a bit of sarcasm in that statement!)

[Steve Heard]

I heard the same craps 'Folsom has liquor stores that sell XXX materials SO let add some more to it', or 'Folsom has plenty of crimes so let add more to it' .  It's the careles attitudes like that that will eventually degrade, slowly but surely,  the city to the likes of Rancho Cordova. 

The point is, if our citizens were truly concerned about the availability of porn and its threat to our kids, they'd attack it where it is, at those liquor stores accross the street from the middle school, where the school kids buy candy.

By the way, Ms. Teaz does not sell XXX material, nor do they invite crime.

[tessieca]

Sorry.  I am refering to the woman (or man) Tessieca.  If she does indeed have nothing to gain here, one has to question all the effort she is putting into her hatred.

What??? Are you daft? I have not said anything hateful, so I have no clue where you sense hatred. Davburr asked about the city council and why they passed a new ordinance when people supported the store. Go back and actually READ. I pointed out that the majority of those in attendance at the city council were actually in favor of the ordinance. Pointing out that the supporters are actually in the minority on this is not a hateful thing, but simply a fact that some of you seem to have missed.

[Dave Burrell]

What???  Are you daft?  I have not said anything hateful, so I have no clue where you sense hatred.  Davburr asked about the city council and why they passed a new ordinance when people supported the store.  Go back and actually READ.  I pointed out that the majority of those in attendance at the city council were actually in favor of the ordinance.  Pointing out that the supporters are actually in the minority on this is not a hateful thing, but simply a fact that some of you seem to have missed.

You have made several statements wishing for their demise - you do seem to be very much against their business - as we've read in your posts.

I among several others here are curious as to why you are so heavily opposed to their business. How is it harming you...or the city for that matter?

[tessieca]

Please highlight even one statement where I have wished for their demise. Otherwise, knock it off with the unwarranted personal attacks. Put up or shut up.

[YabYum]

Please highlight even one statement where I have wished for their demise.  Otherwise, knock it off with the unwarranted personal attacks.  Put up or shut up.

claim ignorance all you want, lady. your INDIRECT comments speak volumes:

Win or lose with the lawsuit, and Ms. Teaz wins. They have become expert at keeping their name in the news. It is unfortunate that our legal system allows for losers to be winners via publicity and/or nuisance.

This turn of events is simply another ploy to create attention to their store.

p.s. if you truly DO support the store, please enlighten us.......

[Dave Burrell]

Please highlight even one statement where I have wished for their demise.  Otherwise, knock it off with the unwarranted personal attacks.  Put up or shut up.

Oh come on that wasn't a personal attack, I just was curious why you are against their business - it was a basic question (which you still haven't answered)

As for put up or shut up - here's a couple of your statements that led me to believe you wished for their demise...

"The magnificent private investigator knows the true story of the opening of the grand store, and the opposition will soon sense the impending doom. Lo, their fate is at hand! "

"It is unfortunate that our legal system allows for losers to be winners via publicity and/or nuisance."

[Adamal]

I'd like to make a few comments to this post.

First I believe the majority of people here in Folsom do not give this shop much thought one way or another. There seems to be a minority on both sides that are fighting either to remove the shop or to keep it. Personally I believe that in this particular case the shop doesn't seem to be causing any harm to Folsom and until it does I don't think anyone should be up in arms to remove it. I specified IN THIS CASE because some people want to be more proactive (taking care of a problem before it happens). That option should only be allowed when there is enough evidence to support being proactive, no one has presented any such evidence that I am aware of.

If you want to help the community look at the problems we are currently facing and help come up with a solution for those problems. Right now the biggest problems I see is the recless driving that is rampant throughout Folsom, and the reports of Asbestos.

[TLC]

Please highlight even one statement where I have wished for their demise.  Otherwise, knock it off with the unwarranted personal attacks.  Put up or shut up.

Happened upon some of the initial propoganda for getting the city up in arms. Interesting enough in a past thread prior to the opening of the shop here is one of the instigators who helped the city to believe there was need for concern. Great way to stir up problems. I'm with Adamal. If you could apply your energy to positive community involvement, Folsom would be far better off.

Apparently, it is far more than a Frederick's with some toys. An X-rated shop might even be showing movies in the back.

The bars might be the only thing open in the evening on Sutter St. (although actually, the restaurants all are), but if they have fun stuff for the pub drunks to do after hours, I suppose the smut store will also stay open evenings. That'll give downtown a real "nice" air in the evenings. The Sutter Street Merchants might be concerned about scaring the families away. First, the bridge closes, then the council closes off all of the access to downtown, and now they're going to add smut. Snooks, Hacienda, the Museum, the Sutter Street Grill, My Brother Vinny's all will have to think about getting by with a few adult customers.

Forumreader has had some good questions that Sam and Misty don't seem to want to answer. That leads me to believe that the items they plan to sell really do require a back room. I wonder if the store is approved, who will be able to draw the lines about what is in the back room and what is in the front window. Once they're in, the owners' interpretation of porn is all that is necessary. I think the business owners on Sutter Street do have some real concerns. It's getting more and more difficult to spend time at those businesses, and this would just be one more reason to go elsewhere in Folsom.

I learned there there at 2 law firms on Ms Teaz's defense at a huge expense to the store.  The one not spoken to in the article has a very strong reputation in civil defense.  Interesting this was not spoken to in the article.

Too true. I guess some of us feel we have the right to stand up and say things just in case they're true, to avoid that worst case.  Maybe call it playing the devil's advocate. Or wait, is that what the Dufours are doing?

"Devil's Advocate?"

[BuffaloRon]

"Cha-Ching"
Who's Your Daddy?

[tessieca]

I still see nothing about the demise of the store. I've noted the great efforts the owners take to keep their name in the public eye. I've noted that I do not approve of people suing in order to gain publicity. I've noted that the majority of the attendees at the city council meeting voiced support of the ordinance and not the store. I've noted that dmarkum has some weird conspiracy theory that went unexplained. I've noted in the prior forum (not this one for which y'all seem to want to attack me) that the owners were not willing to answer questions about content early on. (If you're going to go back to old topics and posts, you have to go back over the WHOLE conversation because there was a progression and not just a conclusion.)

The problem we have here, right now, is that some newcomers are jumping in at the tail end of a long process and long discussion, reaching conclusions based on lack of information, and then deciding to attack me just because I have the nerve to express my own thoughts and to provide information about how the process worked. You may not like how the process worked, but it did work.

So, now, just leave me alone. I am not a publicity-seeking, for-profit store. I am a citizen who actually does quite a bit for this community that has nothing to do with some stupid store that I don't much care about. This isn't about me. Get back to your support of the publicity hounds.