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[Chris]

 

Just drivin' by and looked in to see if the crazies are still at it....yep, they are!

 

Ya know why this place is so disgusting?  Garbage like what Joe posts.  P/P spent 3% of their money on abortions last year.  97% on womens' health services.  Joe,  tell the whole story, not just the parts you like.  Yur as bad as these other pinheads.  

 

I'll stop by in a couple months.  See who's still alive.   Byeeeeee

Pete, how much did PP donate to the democrats last year, the year before that....?   And do you call giving money to Hillary as part of your 97% to women'd health services..?  Well, she does not look any more healthy to me than she did before...?  Nice try.  And now I have one more thing to look forward too in 2 months, other than getting a haircut, you coming back with your brilliant and uplifting commentary.  Chris

 

Planned Parenthood's political arm to spend $45 million on electing candidates backing reproductive rights

 

Although a tax-exempt, nonprofit, Planned Parenthood is involved in federal campaigns through three national committees: the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, which is registered with the IRS as a 501©(4), a social welfare organization that is allowed to engage in some political activity; Planned Parenthood Action Fund PAC, which is a political action committee registered with the Federal Election Commission; and Planned Parenthood Votes, a super PAC also registered with the FEC.

 

Planned Parenthood Votes raised and spent about $22 million in the last election cycle, according to the FEC. It made $12.6 million in independent expenditures — nearly all of it in support of Democrats or opposed to Republicans, including $2.8 million to oppose Donald Trump and $2.4 million to support Hillary Clinton, according to an analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics.

[2 Aces]

Y'all notice that liberal-run, sanctuary sheethole cities who love open borders are the ones with the big problems? Coincidence? Hell No!!

[The Average Joe]

Not a criticism, but just interesting how intelligent people can interpret the same facts in such a variety of perspectives.

 

 

Interpretation? Just cold hard numbers my friend.  You do realize we are 20+ trillion dollars in debt right?  We are NOT paying down the debt...at all.  Nor do we have a plan to.  Instead we are adding more every year. The interest on that debt will soon be the single largest budget line item. Larger than defense, SS or any other program. At some point, the dollar will be downgraded and people will stop buying (financing) the debt. At that point, there will be few options. We either man up and drastically slash the federal budget, drastically increase taxation rate (which will tank the economy and revenue will stay about the same), or print an Sh** load of money creating massive inflation and devaluing the dollar even more.  There are no other options, and in all likelihood, it will involve a combination of all three.  That is not perspective, that is fact.  Numbers dont lie, politicians do.

 

This IS interpretation...When the collapse happens, I see the potential for the "balkanization" of America with the US breaking into at least 5 new affiliated countries.  Think W. America (coastal west), E America (coastal east), New Colorado (Rockies north to south), Gulf coast (excluding Texas but including Georgia), Central plains, and Texas.  We are already self segregating, and it wouldn't take much (other than a great marketing strategy) at the point of failure of the federal government for such an idea to get widespread support.  Food for thought

 

Pete, who does a driveby every now and then, is confused. His talking points are easily refuted by...facts.   PP stated they had 11 million "service visits" in a year, but only 327000 were abortions (only...<eyeroll>)  Hence the 3%. Not revenue, but "services." In fact, (using their own data) they "served" only 3 million unique clients.  Which basic math will tell you is 11% of their clients getting abortions. Whatever.  Pete's acuity is no threat to any of us. 

 

BTW, Remember, we are skirting dangerously close to debating abortion (which is forbidden here), but this topic tangent is about a provider of that service so that is right on the edge.

[Chris]

 

 

 

BTW, Remember, we are skirting dangerously close to debating abortion (which is forbidden here), but this topic tangent is about a provider of that service so that is right on the edge.

And playing by the rules of the left once again......   They can not defend, therefore they rule that we can not talk about the subject.  If they had a good argument then they would not be afraid of said subject.  God knows, if the right was in charge and they said you could not debate "global warming" all bets would be off, the left would be in apoplexy over it.......!  Yep, funny how we all have to play by the rules of the left, the MSM, the skeletons in their closets (very small ones in this regard, very small indeed, and in the millions...) are not to be recognized, acknowledged, talked about.  How cool it that..!   Would love to control my arguments by ruling out other people with counter facts, yep, not allowed, can't speak to me, I won't listen, it is not true....!   Yep, all those aborted lives this year, and last year, and the year before really don't count because we refuse to talk about them.  Well, not "we", just the half of "we" who refuse to acknowledge the facts, the death, the killing of the potential of the human being.  Sure, we lose a good many to Covid 19 right now........   I'd be willing to guess this year in America we lose more lives to abortion than Covid 19.  We will see come December 31... 2020.  Hope I am around to remind you.  And I will if I am still here.  Otherwise, Aces, take care of that for me will you please.  Thanks, Chris

[UncleVinnys]

Something for you to ponder, Chris.

Bible-derived concept.

 

What if the Alt-Right banned the "spilling of seed?"

 

SUDDENLY the howl would go up about "men controlling their own bodies."

 

Can you see how that relates to men trying to tell women how to control their bodies?

Bunch of hypocrites.

[UncleVinnys]

 

 

Interpretation? Just cold hard numbers my friend. 

 

 

 

I know, off topic, but surely you can see now that the US and world economies are collapsing.
Not sure if any nation can recover.
Surely you can appreciate that we are in the middle of a major paradigm shift.

 

Perhaps entertain the possibility of some kind of spiritual intervention.
An economic reset; a post-capitalism commonwealth.

I don't know, but we are not going be be the same when this blows over.

 

If you think China is going to call in its loans and be the end of us, you are not using your creative thinking.

[The Average Joe]

I never said China was going to call in its loans. I said at some point, no one will buy US backed bonds. At that point, how do you finance your 1 trillion a year deficit addiction?  You either cut spending by over a trillion dollars, increase taxes by over a trillion dollars (about 1000 dollars a month for your typical family of four), or print money which devalues the debt...and everyone else's money.

 

Chris, the reason that topic is verboten on these boards is because of the vitriol and lack of any possible good that can come of it. The sides are hardened and there is no middle ground. Abortion debates make the regular barely coherent political shouting look like pleasant conversation. Nothing to do with left/right, everything to do with decorum.

[Chris]

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[Rose White]

Chris, knowing your background and education, what do you feel the chances are in creating a vaccine for the Covid-19 virus?

It seems to me that with the poor performance of the flu vaccines, it would be on par with them, which is sometimes as little as 30% effective.

 

Some have argued that since we pretty much cured the measles and small pox with vaccines, that we can do the same with the Covid-19 virus. But aren't those viruses more stable, in that they don't mutate?

 

Viruses have fascinated me since I was in high school and biology was my favorite subject. A future in the field of biology may have been in the works for me had I not got married right after high school, then had a baby.

 

Further, what are your feelings on how this new virus will mutate, since it has done so eight times already? You probably agree that this outbreak was bound to happen sooner or later. What with so much international travel, how could it not? Right?

 

The question is.....where do we go from here?

[Chris]

Chris, knowing your background and education, what do you feel the chances are in creating a vaccine for the Covid-19 virus?

It seems to me that with the poor performance of the flu vaccines, it would be on par with them, which is sometimes as little as 30% effective.

 

Some have argued that since we pretty much cured the measles and small pox with vaccines, that we can do the same with the Covid-19 virus. But aren't those viruses more stable, in that they don't mutate?

 

Viruses have fascinated me since I was in high school and biology was my favorite subject. A future in the field of biology may have been in the works for me had I not got married right after high school, then had a baby.

 

Further, what are your feelings on how this new virus will mutate, since it has done so eight times already? You probably agree that this outbreak was bound to happen sooner or later. What with so much international travel, how could it not? Right?

 

The question is.....where do we go from here?

Rose, good to hear from you....   I am thinking 3 to 5 months for a covid 19 strategy for a vaccine, trials, fast track FDA, EMEA stuff...   Then another 3 to 6 months to produce it en mass...  Hopefully in time for the second round of this virus, it will come back, most likely in October 2020.  The "Spanish" flu did the same thing back in 1918, then mutated, for the worst, and came back with a vengeance 6 months later.    In the meantime, getting plasma from those infected and recovered will be the best bet.  Those serum antibodies will save lives.   Depends on donors and companies, blood banks, getting to the deal and making it happen.  This will be a big deal for those hit hard and the elderly who progress badly from the get go.  Genetics has a play here, depending on your make up you get it not so bad or very bad, just the way it is.  Best bet for now, don't get it, do the social distancing and make trips out rarely, we need to starve this virus.  We are the hosts, without us it dies off.  Stay away from it as long as you can.  Actually, a drug I made when I was at Genentech some two years ago is being used, Actemra.  I helped to make the first trials and batches of this drug, a RhuMab, recombinant human anti body, we used Cho cells, Chinese Hamster Ovary Cells to make it, very common in biotech to use these cells... To make a humanized protein.   Seems to help very much with this disease.  The Chinese in Wuhan used it to some good success within the first two weeks of outbreak there...   Also anti virals, chemo stuff, and some recently used drugs to fight ebola seem to be helpful.  Within a month I think we smart humans all over the world will develop a cocktail of drugs that helps you make it out alive if you get it bad, interferon's, anti virals, chemo stuff.   Stay safe, buy time, get this later more than earlier.  Let science do their thing in the next month or so and we will get better at this.  From the looks of this it is 10 times more deadly than the common influenza A and B based on reporting.  Not sure of my numbers but from the stats it looks like a death rate of 1.7 % over the 0.1 % of the common flu.  I am guessing we are missing the "infected" count by 3 to 4 times or more so I am thinking in a year, two years from now we will see a mortality rate of 0.8 to 0.3 percent.  Just my guess.  Still bad.   I am not a medical doctor by any means so that is just my opinion based on math and my little bit of education and experience....  I certainly could be wrong and I most likely am to one side or the other.....   I think there are a lot of folks who get this and don't get all that sick and move on, they don't get tested, therefore they don't show up in statistics, the tested positives, the math.  Hindsight in a year or two will tell us the real story here.   God bless and stay safe.  Chris

[Rose White]

I'm aware that this is a very sensitive subject and it is the duty to give hope to people, but most people would like to know what's what.

The flu has been around for a long time. Although there are flu shots pushed every year, many still die of the flu, even though they got the shot. Cancer is still very much large and in charge. Doctors don't talk of a cure anymore, they talk of managing it. I had a family member who fought cancer for ten years, had all the treatments and still died. She was 49 and left a husband to raise their two kids alone. We hear a lot about fighting cancer and how people have beaten it, but how many times do they have to beat it before it finally ends them?

 

We both know there are many side effects to drugs and treatments. And we both know that once a virus is in the community, it's very hard, if not impossible to contain. New viruses seem to be coming around a lot more often these days. Makes one wonder why.

 

We once had concerns about nuclear weapons and how mankind might blow itself out of existence. Now we have the same concerns about bio weapons. Not saying this is one, but who really knows?

 

The point is, we are in a different world than we were last year and as billions of people are now on lock down at home, one has to ask what is the future going to bring next. Clearly, we can't have it all. Meaning, we can't have the freedom to travel the world, as we had before and countries will have to decide how they are going to keep their citizens safe.

 

Sadly, people will be people and disobey the rules that keep they safe and we don't like to think about what must be done to control them from harming themselves or others. I just read where some have been arrested for not staying in their homes.

 

My husband and I just watched the movie "Unlocked". It's a 2017 movie with Michael Douglas. Very scary at this time, with what we are going through.

 

 Many are having nightmares now, and so am I. I and my family are being as safe as we can be. But one slip.....well, you know.

[UncleVinnys]

We both know there are many side effects to drugs and treatments. And we both know that once a virus is in the community, it's very hard, if not impossible to contain.

New viruses seem to be coming around a lot more often these days. Makes one wonder why.

 

As the glaciers, frozen tundra and other snow and ice covered areas of earth melt due to global warming,

it releases into the air and the environment all germs and viruses that have existed throughout history back into the planet.
This helps spread "new" viruses, even those that existed before humans appeared on the planet.

 

[2 Aces]

[Chris]

 

As the glaciers, frozen tundra and other snow and ice covered areas of earth melt due to global warming,

it releases into the air and the environment all germs and viruses that have existed throughout history back into the planet.
This helps spread "new" viruses, even those that existed before humans appeared on the planet.

 

Did your paper get accepted yet by Scientific American or the New England Journal of Medicine....?   When it does please turn me on to it as I am an avid reader of science and history.  Until then, I will take your above posting as a joke, in jest... 

 

 

[Chris]

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