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[cw68]

Northoftheriver is right.

I agree. Personal rights of property owners is at stake here. Not everyone wants to live in a community that is run by HOAs. They serve a purpose for those who want them. If you're concerned about XYZ (in this case garbage cans) then move to a neighborhood where it is legislated. If you already live in a neighbor that does legislate it, then it shouldn't be of concern. Different neighborhoods have different vibes.

Do we really want gov't to get bigger? Legislate more?

[asbestoshills]

Not one complaint about disrepair, elderly, disabled or single female in my post.

Ever heard of looking beyond the trees to view the forest?

My point is this is not a city issue. If we aren't careful what we ask the city to legislate, we will wake up someday breaking the law just picking up the morning news paper.

I do realize freedom is something not everyone understands or values. Personal property rights of owners, an ordinance like this one being proposed, and an HOA all have their place. Step back and think about it replacing the word "trash cans" with something else and see how it translates into senseless governing.

My point was all the time you spend complaining you could have already helped "fix" the problem in your own neighborhood...See the trash cans that are unsightly? Go and ask the neighbor if they will put them away or help suggest a way to construct a place to hide them or offer to put them away.....You are right it's not a city issue, it's your issue....Most people put their trash cans away if they have the room for 3 huge containers...The people that don't do put them away may have a reason and u can find out if you really want to.....That's all.....People always assume that others are just careless and while it may be true sometimes, usually there is something else going on....If there trash cans are out maybe they are sick or working 2 jobs just to afford the neighborhood...You never know....
"Look for the good, and you just may find it!"

[bishmasterb]

What do all these have is common? We all have opinions about their use and visual appeal. This is an HOA function....not the city.

Well said. HOA's do a terrific job at this, and the best part is, they're voluntary. You can choose not live in an HOA area, if this type of thing isn't important to you.

[tessieca]

Of all the places I've lived - Folsom was the only one (until recently) that did not have a recycling program - we've been behind the times.

You must be a relative newbie. We did have recycling of all of our trash without using three different cans, but then the prison was fired.

Private property rights erode little by little.
- Boat storage
- RV's on the side yard
- House color
- Landscaping
- Basketball hoops
- TV dishes/antennas

What do all these have is common? We all have opinions about their use and visual appeal. This is an HOA function....not the city.

True for most of it, and as Bish said, at least we can choose to live in a place with HOAs or not. But, the basketball hoops are a city (and actually state) issue when they block sidewalks. You are not allowed to do this, and I know why from the personal experience of trying to push a wheel chair around for months! This applies to cars parked on sidewalks, trash cans on sidewalks, etc.

[benning]

The city has always enforced rules and regulations applicable to all neighborhoods to protect against blight. No change here. Personally I don't get the HOA argument -- to use that argument is like saying if you want your child to be forced to follow a dress code, send them to a private school.

[FolsomJunior00]

HOA's are crap. Sorry, but rules like "You cant keep your garage open for more than two hours at a time" or "you cant leave cars parked out on the street overnight" seem useless and stupid. Almost like HOA's themeselves!

[Dave Burrell]

You must be a relative newbie. We did have recycling of all of our trash without using three different cans, but then the prison was fired.

Yes this month now marks two years that I've been here now (and still loving it as much as I did the day I moved in)

No kidding? the prisoners used to sort the trash for recyclables? thats interesting....never knew that went on - wonder why the prison was fired - seems like that was a good solution and it put the criminals to work.

[Terry]

Yes this month now marks two years that I've been here now (and still loving it as much as I did the day I moved in)

No kidding? the prisoners used to sort the trash for recyclables? thats interesting....never knew that went on - wonder why the prison was fired - seems like that was a good solution and it put the criminals to work.

The contract was too expensive, so the City let it expire.

[cw68]

You must be a relative newbie. We did have recycling of all of our trash without using three different cans, but then the prison was fired.

This always seemed weird to me. Not only does sorting other people's trash seem to be "unusual punishment," I don't think I'd feel comfortable having felons going through my stuff. What if something slipped by the shredder?

[tessieca]

Well, they're not doing it now, but it was a fascinating process. The guards would actually have to be the first sorters because weapons can end up in the trash. The trash was put onto a conveyor belt that went up several feet in the air. The prisoners would be on platforms alongside the belt, with large bins below them. One guy might be responsible for grabbing the plastics off the belt and dropping them into his bin. Another might be responsible for jeans (yes, they even recycled and repaired clothing and toys that were donated or sold). They did have a procedure for checking prisoners upon departure from the job so that they didn't risk someone taking out an improperly disposed of credit card for example. But, after I toured that site I did go and buy a shredder.

[ngilbert]

This always seemed weird to me. Not only does sorting other people's trash seem to be "unusual punishment," I don't think I'd feel comfortable having felons going through my stuff. What if something slipped by the shredder?

Same here. I always felt hesitant to toss my guns and knives in the garbage. Didn't stop me though, but certainly gave me pause

[MikeinFolsom]

The way I see it......without the second trash can, I would have absolutely no place to dump my old paint cans, used motor oil. and empty pool chemical bottles....I absolutely have to hide them behind my fence, because when I first dump everything together, I'd hate for someone to see the small vapor clouds and toxic plumes of smoke that are emitted during those first tense moments. The only drawback to that is I have but 5' of side yard clearance, so I most certainly have to close the window to the office or said plume of toxic matter might just ventilate my entire downstairs. My "old" system of leaving the cans out by the front driveway just don't cut it anymore. I used to hate going outside to do my "dumping" at 2am, it's not only cold, but now it is getting wet. With my cans in the backyard, I'm free to dump whatever whenever......and if I'm in my boxers shorts or tighty whiteys, my neighbors are none the wiser. I say hide the cans, it benefits us all.

[mylo]

Don't know if this was posted earlier, but SacBee has an article on a possible ordinance:

http://www.sacbee.co...-14878252c.html

I dunno about you guys, but I have no room to store my cans. I literally store them on my neighbours property by the side of my house, which is still visible from the street, but there really is no other place for them besides my living room. Good old historic district!

[folsom500]

Anyone know how this went down at the tuesday meeting ?


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