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[bishmasterb]

Jeez, with so many people against this new WalMart, surely the store will die a horrible miserable death, since obviously no one will be shopping there.

I'll wager that the new store, if opened, will stay in business and be successful. Any takers? Anyone willing to put their money where there mouth is?

[ducky]

Jeez, with so many people against this new WalMart, surely the store will die a horrible miserable death, since obviously no one will be shopping there.

I'll wager that the new store, if opened, will stay in business and be successful. Any takers? Anyone willing to put their money where there mouth is?

I have no doubt the new store will do just fine. After all, it won't be just Folsom residents creating the traffic problem. They are hoping to draw business from up the hill, too.

A better bet would be that the old store on Riley won't be around long after the Super Wallie World opens.

[forumreader]

After all, it won't be just Folsom residents creating the traffic problem. They are hoping to draw business from up the hill, too.

Why don't they put the store up the hill further, let's say in Cameron Park or Shingle Springs?

[DrKoz23]

Why can't we, as a city, get together and say "Here's the type of town we want...?" I suppose we wouldn't all agree, but wouldn't it be nice if we could have a town that was filled with unique small & midsized businesses, light to moderate traffic, houses with big yards for our kids & pets to play in, neighborhood streets designed so as not to encourage people to use them as expressways, one of a kind restaurants, natural trees and topography incorporated into our neighborhoods, and so on?
Why do we resign ourselves to accepting that every hilltop must be leveled, that every oak must be cut down, that yards should be tiny, that enormous strip malls filled with the same stores as every other town are the ideal?

Sounds like you need to move to the midwest. Exactly what you just stated above is what I fondly remember about the quaintness of the small midwest town.

I don't think that could ever be replicated out here.

[DrKoz23]

Why don't they put the store up the hill further, let's say in Cameron Park or Shingle Springs?

Sounds like "Not in My Backyard" syndrome.

There are legitimate reasons to be against the new SuperCenter...and other big box retail in the area for that matter. Number one concern should be traffic. Hopefully the city will act on the congestion in the E Bidwell and Iron Point area before approving ANY new retail. Just like they acted when the dam road was closed...causing an increase in traffic in the historic district.

Another legitimate argument. Does Folsom really need two WalMarts? I am sure even WalMart doesn't think so. I still believe WalMart will shut down their old store when the new one is opened... leaving quite an eyesore with the almost abandoned shopping center. Being away from the Hwy 50 corridor... it might be tough to fill the empty retail space. This should also be considered before approving the SuperCenter.

[forumreader]

Sounds like "Not in My Backyard" syndrome.

Yes, it is. And that is not always bad.

It seems logical. Folks up Hwy. 50 do come down to Folsom to shop, as there are few major retail establishments in that direction. Folsom already has two Walmart establishments, and has ready access to others in the vicinity (Hwy. 50 Westbound). Why bring more traffic congestion to Folsom?

[Concerned in Miramonte]

Perhaps the supercenter could be placed in Rancho Cordova. Or remodel the existing store! Why does a small city such as ours need TWO Wal Marts. I fail to see the need. When I purchased my home here there were NO such plans for this business just streets away. Elliott homes is ridiculous to think that they can continue to sell homes in this neighborhood after announcing plans that they are going to devalue this neighborhood.

[cw68]

Sounds like you need to move to the midwest. Exactly what you just stated above is what I fondly remember about the quaintness of the small midwest town.

I don't think that could ever be replicated out here.

I agree. (Where's your hometown, btw?) Though it may not be replicated out here, there must be ways to make modern suburban growth and development somewhat unique. Probably pretty hard to do, however, when the developers rule the grown.

The strip malls here are a fact of life. I don't know what the zoning regulations are, but even if they would allow for a stand-alone retail building to be built along E. Bidwell (or the like), I doubt that the small, non-chain business owner could absorb the costs. So, those Mom & Pop stores get pushed into strip malls. My guess is they don't fare well in that environment.

[Terry]

Perhaps the supercenter could be placed in Rancho Cordova. Or remodel the existing store! Why does a small city such as ours need TWO Wal Marts. I fail to see the need. When I purchased my home here there were NO such plans for this business just streets away. Elliott homes is ridiculous to think that they can continue to sell homes in this neighborhood after announcing plans that they are going to devalue this neighborhood.

You have to understand that even though there were "no plans" for this business when you purchase your home, zoning changes occur and what was open land can become home to a multitude of things - they're not all going to be parks and open space. And I'll bet Elliott homes will have no problem selling homes in that neighborhood. We who live near the existing Walmart would like to shop in our own neighborhood so it makes sense to maintain this one and build another one for those who live out towards the freeway.

[Redone]

zoning changes occur

Terry, thanks for pointing this out. If you go to the city's website you'll see that only one person complained about possible traffic. I wish all would pay more attention to Camay's posts , read, and complain at that time as opposed to after the fact.

[mylo]

You have to understand that even though there were "no plans" for this business when you purchase your home, zoning changes occur and what was open land can become home to a multitude of things - they're not all going to be parks and open space. And I'll bet Elliott homes will have no problem selling homes in that neighborhood. We who live near the existing Walmart would like to shop in our own neighborhood so it makes sense to maintain this one and build another one for those who live out towards the freeway.

I dunno. If I paid $1.5M for a house on the hill I think I'd be pretty bummed Walmart was coming to town. I still believe Wal-Mart magnetically attracts scumbags, no matter where it's built.

Edited by mylo, 28 April 2006 - 08:21 AM.

[MSgt]

I dunno. If I paid $1.5M for a house on the hill I think I'd be pretty bummed Walmart was coming to town. I still believe Wal-Mart magnetically attracts scumbags, no matter where it's built.

Hey! My wife and I were in Wal-Mart last night along with all the other scumbags!

[Concerned in Miramonte]

I agree. (Where's your hometown, btw?) Though it may not be replicated out here, there must be ways to make modern suburban growth and development somewhat unique. Probably pretty hard to do, however, when the developers rule the grown.

The strip malls here are a fact of life. I don't know what the zoning regulations are, but even if they would allow for a stand-alone retail building to be built along E. Bidwell (or the like), I doubt that the small, non-chain business owner could absorb the costs. So, those Mom & Pop stores get pushed into strip malls. My guess is they don't fare well in that environment.

[DrKoz23]

I agree. (Where's your hometown, btw?) Though it may not be replicated out here, there must be ways to make modern suburban growth and development somewhat unique. Probably pretty hard to do, however, when the developers rule the grown.

The strip malls here are a fact of life. I don't know what the zoning regulations are, but even if they would allow for a stand-alone retail building to be built along E. Bidwell (or the like), I doubt that the small, non-chain business owner could absorb the costs. So, those Mom & Pop stores get pushed into strip malls. My guess is they don't fare well in that environment.

I grew up in Greendale, WI (Pop. 15,000)... just outside Milwaukee. Even though it was close to the city... it had the small town feel. There are actually no grocery stores... a mall just on the outskirts... plenty of parkland... neighborhood feeling of kids playing in their yards... a historic village center... and small schools. My graduating class only had 185 people. It was a very family oriented town. Like I said... a lot of the towns in the Midwest have this fell. Unfortunately this can't be replicated out here.

[mylo]

Hey! My wife and I were in Wal-Mart last night along with all the other scumbags!

I didn't say it repelled non-scumbags, but did you feel dirty after leaving?

I'm going to start spraying myself with Scotch Guard before going there.