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#91 ducky

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:40 AM

Did any of you see this story? This is for WarrenG because I know he likes anything light rail related. tongue.gif

http://www.sacbee.co...ory/754896.html



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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:17 AM

The article didn't mention whether or not he was headed towards Folsom, so I don't know if we have to panic or not.

That picture might serve as a deterrent to others who try to make their getaway on a light rail train.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE(Warren G @ Mar 3 2008, 10:17 AM) View Post
The article didn't mention whether or not he was headed towards Folsom, so I don't know if we have to panic or not.

That picture might serve as a deterrent to others who try to make their getaway on a light rail train.

Anyone who thinks light rail is a good getaway mode will get caught.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE(ducky @ Mar 3 2008, 09:40 AM) View Post
Did any of you see this story? This is for WarrenG because I know he likes anything light rail related. tongue.gif

http://www.sacbee.co...ory/754896.html


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the best solution is to arm all citizens, then when a dirtbag like that gets on light rail, he won't be the only one armed

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:02 PM

QUOTE(Warren G @ Mar 3 2008, 10:17 AM) View Post
The article didn't mention whether or not he was headed towards Folsom, so I don't know if we have to panic or not.

That picture might serve as a deterrent to others who try to make their getaway on a light rail train.


He was on the I-80 line, not the Folsom (Gold) line.

Why would you panic anyway? Where you there, too?


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Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:07 PM

A friend of mine told me Sunday that his sister (who was visiting from Sonoma) got on light rail in Old Town to ride into Sacramento. She said a man was having a heated discussion on his cell phone (cursing profusely). Another man said, "hey, we don't all need to hear your phone conversation." At which point, the guy hung up his phone and proceeded to beat the other man with his fists to the floor. All of these people had gotten on at the Folsom station.

What would that be?? Rail Rage?
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:53 PM

they need to have rail marshalls like the sky marxhalls to ride the trains and snap up the criminals like the swearing phone man who beat up the other rider.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE(old soldier @ Mar 3 2008, 03:53 PM) View Post
they need to have rail marshalls like the sky marxhalls to ride the trains and snap up the criminals like the swearing phone man who beat up the other rider.



I think they do, just not on all trains. The incident certainly left a lasting impression on the visitor from Sonoma!
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 04:38 PM

Yes, criminals can get on light rail. They can drive cars, too.

I was talking to someone in the know at the outlets. She told me that the Outlets were a target for criminals since they opened, because their access to the freeway.

They did see a rise in shoplifting since light rail began service, with some crooks keeping track of time so they can make their getaways. She also noted that in the past year, crime has decreased at the Outlets.

Even with light rail, most crooks prefer to drive to get where they 'work'.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE(stevethedad @ Mar 3 2008, 04:38 PM) View Post
They did see a rise in shoplifting since light rail began service, with some crooks keeping track of time so they can make their getaways.


So if they mis-time their crime they miss the train and get caught? And if they get to the station 5 minutes before the train they do what? I dunno about this hypothesis.



Terry, "panic" refers to some other people around here who won't ride Light Rail to/from Folsom during commute hours because it's too dangerous, what with all the criminals on board.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:25 AM

It's interesting how insulated and easily terrified some Folsomites have become.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE(c_vanderveen @ Mar 4 2008, 08:25 AM) View Post
It's interesting how insulated and easily terrified some Folsomites have become.

Maybe a topic for another discussion, but I was talking to a friend of my daughter about just that.

She and I both believe that parents here in Folsom have led their children to believe that Folsom is the only safe place to be. They are warned to stay out of Citrus Heights, Rancho Cordova, Elk Grove, Sacramento, Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco, LA, etc.

She told me that many of their friends had plans of going to school out of the area, but decided to go to Folsom Lake, ARC, or Sierra College because it's safer.

Yes, I know that ARC and Sierra aren't in Folsom, but the point is that so many of us put down other communities and the threat of violence there that our kids have adopted those same fears, and it can stifle their growth.

I know there are plenty of kids who do leave, but I know lots of kids in this town who won't.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:53 AM

QUOTE(stevethedad @ Mar 4 2008, 08:34 AM) View Post
Maybe a topic for another discussion, but I was talking to a friend of my daughter about just that.

She and I both believe that parents here in Folsom have led their children to believe that Folsom is the only safe place to be. They are warned to stay out of Citrus Heights, Rancho Cordova, Elk Grove, Sacramento, Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco, LA, etc.

She told me that many of their friends had plans of going to school out of the area, but decided to go to Folsom Lake, ARC, or Sierra College because it's safer.

Yes, I know that ARC and Sierra aren't in Folsom, but the point is that so many of us put down other communities and the threat of violence there that our kids have adopted those same fears, and it can stifle their growth.

I know there are plenty of kids who do leave, but I know lots of kids in this town who won't.


yeah. People, it's just a train.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE(stevethedad @ Mar 4 2008, 08:34 AM) View Post
Maybe a topic for another discussion, but I was talking to a friend of my daughter about just that.

She and I both believe that parents here in Folsom have led their children to believe that Folsom is the only safe place to be. They are warned to stay out of Citrus Heights, Rancho Cordova, Elk Grove, Sacramento, Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco, LA, etc.

She told me that many of their friends had plans of going to school out of the area, but decided to go to Folsom Lake, ARC, or Sierra College because it's safer.

Yes, I know that ARC and Sierra aren't in Folsom, but the point is that so many of us put down other communities and the threat of violence there that our kids have adopted those same fears, and it can stifle their growth.

I know there are plenty of kids who do leave, but I know lots of kids in this town who won't.


I don't believe safety is the primary reason or necessarily a reason at all. I think for many the reason to go to Sierra, ARC, or Folsom Lake is because of financial reasons. They would rather live at home and save their money while getting their two-year degree so they can later transfer to their university of choice and go on to their four-year degree.

I don't think people are in a complete panic about riding light rail, but I also don't think light rail is the Disney experience some would make it out to be either. It's not necessarily about safety, but I don't particularly enjoy hearing "F" this and "MF" that, which is what happened the two times I rode, not to mention the guy shouting he was going to kill everybody until a rather large man in the back yelled at him to shut up.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:08 AM

QUOTE(ducky @ Mar 4 2008, 09:00 AM) View Post
I don't believe safety is the primary reason or necessarily a reason at all. I think for many the reason to go to Sierra, ARC, or Folsom Lake is because of financial reasons. They would rather live at home and save their money while getting their two-year degree so they can later transfer to their university of choice and go on to their four-year degree.

I know that our local community colleges have financial advantages, and I'd encourage kids to think about that before spending the money on a 4 year institution, but as I said, many of the kids seem to just be afraid to leave.


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