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#91 Bill Z

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 07:49 AM

QUOTE(davburr @ Jul 8 2008, 06:55 AM) View Post
why would you think its bad for a weapon? (it's not)

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Interesting info, hadn't ever heard of that before but just now looked it up and found you are correct... (and learned something new)

"If you are using a rimfire or centrefire be sure to use some form of snap cap that protects the firing pin and breech area for dry firing practice"


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Posted 08 July 2008 - 07:55 AM

Dry firing is a great way to practice trigger control and sight alignment while retraining your mind not to flinch at trigger release. In my experience, unconscious flinching or anticipating the discharge is the biggest detractor from good marksmanship. To illustrate to yourself whether you flinch or not, if you have a revolver try leaving one cylinder chamber empty (or place an already fired cartridge in it) in the middle of live rounds, spin the cylinder with your eyes closed and close it up so you can't see the position of that round. See what happens when you pull the trigger on the dead chamber. You might be surprised.

Snap caps will protect the firing mechanism for dry fire practice.

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE(Bill Z @ Jul 8 2008, 08:49 AM) View Post
I take it we are good now.


I guess so, I looked at my Ruger after reading all that info and honestly couldn't see how the firing pin could become damaged from dry firing, but maybe its because this one is a really old Mark 1 model (?)

actually it's no biggie, like I said before I've never had the need to practice dry firing with my .22

The Glock is the tricky one, the dual trigger mechanism can be a bit odd to get used to.... it requires a good amount of practice to get aquainted with that technology

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:07 AM

That's my problem with Glock's. I really want to like them, but I've not been able to get comfortable with that trigger pull when I've shot them. It just feels too "spongy" to me. I recognize that it's inherent to the design of the pistol and is considered by many to be an advantage, but I just can't get the hang of it. Personally, I prefer either a true DA pull (such as on a DA only Beretta) or a nice crisp SA pull like you can only get on either a SA auto (such as a 1911 or a Browning Hi-Power) or a quality revolver. Both the SA and DA pull on my S&W 686 are sweet. The SA pull on my TC Contender is almost magic - it's too light to be safe for a defensive weapon - which it's not intended as - but for target shooting it is amazing. Put a light trigger finger on it, think about the shot and that's about all it takes. No slack, no creep, no grit.

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:12 AM

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The SA pull on my TC Contender is almost magic - it's too light to be safe for a defensive weapon -
Why do you say that ??
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:20 AM

Well, in a perfect world it wouldn't be an issue, but I would imagine that in a defensive situation things might not go as planned. In such a situation, an accidental brushing of the trigger would result in discharge, let alone an adrenaline fueled shaky trigger finger. Also, I don't believe my Contender has a drop safety, so if the weapon were dropped while cocked, it would very likely fire. It's a single shot, single action pistol anyways and wasn't designed for that kind of use. Just my opinion.

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:32 AM

QUOTE(Orangetj @ Jul 8 2008, 09:07 AM) View Post
That's my problem with Glock's. I really want to like them, but I've not been able to get comfortable with that trigger pull when I've shot them. It just feels too "spongy" to me. I recognize that it's inherent to the design of the pistol and is considered by many to be an advantage, but I just can't get the hang of it. Personally, I prefer either a true DA pull (such as on a DA only Beretta) or a nice crisp SA pull like you can only get on either a SA auto (such as a 1911 or a Browning Hi-Power) or a quality revolver. Both the SA and DA pull on my S&W 686 are sweet. The SA pull on my TC Contender is almost magic - it's too light to be safe for a defensive weapon - which it's not intended as - but for target shooting it is amazing. Put a light trigger finger on it, think about the shot and that's about all it takes. No slack, no creep, no grit.


my S&W .45 is a model 1911 - best gun I've ever used, its a fantastic piece and (to me) the trigger action is absolutely perfect.

I do agree with you on the Glock, the trigger action is a bit spongy like you said..... but I like how it's such a compact gun that can get wet & dirty and still work perfectly and I like that its nice and small but still big on power.... I did however have to add a magazine grip extender to it to get a better handle on it..... that little sucker can sure kick (it's a .40)

One thing I enjoy in addition to practicing and learning how to shoot better is taking the guns apart and cleaning them... do you guys do that regularly too?

My S&W during cleaning and lubing...


all done and put back together...

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE(davburr @ Jul 8 2008, 09:32 AM) View Post
One thing I enjoy in addition to practicing and learning how to shoot better is taking the guns apart and cleaning them... do you guys do that regularly too?

My S&W during cleaning and lubing...


Nice weapon! So, which camp are you in -- do you like the beavertail or not?

Me too - I can shoot pretty well with the Glock (my friend's 21) but the trigger feel is quite different than my Sigs. I like the DA/SA action of my Sigs -- DA for safety and SA for follow-up 'ready' shots. Hey, what's that switch on your grip? Do you have laser sights?

I'm not sure I 'enjoy' cleaning but I do it every time after a range session. However, for HD, I'm thinking about not doing it unless I can fire a magazine after cleaning. As a general once said, a clean gun is an untested gun.

I use Hoppe's for cleaning, Militic for lub/protection and TW25B for greasing the rails/outside of the bore. Then a silicone cloth for wipedowns after cleaning.



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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:53 AM

QUOTE(davburr @ Jul 8 2008, 09:32 AM) View Post
my S&W .45 is a model 1911 - best gun I've ever used, its a fantastic piece and (to me) the trigger action is absolutely perfect.

I do agree with you on the Glock, the trigger action is a bit spongy like you said..... but I like how it's such a compact gun that can get wet & dirty and still work perfectly and I like that its nice and small but still big on power.... I did however have to add a magazine grip extender to it to get a better handle on it..... that little sucker can sure kick (it's a .40)

One thing I enjoy in addition to practicing and learning how to shoot better is taking the guns apart and cleaning them... do you guys do that regularly too?

After a day of shooting, i always clean my guns before putting them away. That's one of the reasons I never shoot more than 3 guns per outing as I don't want to have to clean more than 3 of them before storage.
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:54 AM

QUOTE(davburr @ Jul 8 2008, 09:32 AM) View Post
my S&W .45 is a model 1911 - best gun I've ever used, its a fantastic piece and (to me) the trigger action is absolutely perfect.


New grips for your 1911? smile.gif

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 09:12 AM

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I suppose if my 1911 was new, I might consider pretty new grips, but I think I'll stick with the ones it came with back in 1929

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Colt 38 Super


OVERVIEW

The .38 Super was introduced in 1929 in the famous Colt Government Model 1911 auto pistol. At the time of its introduction the .38 Super was the most powerful auto pistol cartridge in the world. Colt is the only major American gun maker who has produced .38 Super pistols. The .38 Super is one of the most powerful and flat-shooting cartridges available for auto-loading pistols.


Single action
3 white dot sights
Caliber: .38 Super
9 round magazine
Beveled magazine well
Standard thumb safety and service style grip safety
5” barrel length
8½” overall length

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 09:37 AM

Anyone here ever tried any of the Glock sub-compacts like the Glock 26?? How do they handle ??

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 09:49 AM

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Anyone here ever tried any of the Glock sub-compacts like the Glock 26?? How do they handle ??

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Don't know about glocks, I had a S&W sub-compact and I hated it.
I was surprised how cheaply made it was, especially compared to my S&W 686.
I was so happy when I got rid of it.
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 09:57 AM

I've not enjoyed the subcompacts I've fired, including a Glock 26 (or maybe a 27...the 9 mm). I just don't like the feel of not having the grip be full length and I find that I have a hard time being consistent with shot placement with them. The only reason I can see to buy one would be if it were going to be carried, which would require a CCW permit that's essentially impossible to obtain here.

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE(tsukiji @ Jul 8 2008, 09:51 AM) View Post
Nice weapon! So, which camp are you in -- do you like the beavertail or not?

Me too - I can shoot pretty well with the Glock (my friend's 21) but the trigger feel is quite different than my Sigs. I like the DA/SA action of my Sigs -- DA for safety and SA for follow-up 'ready' shots. Hey, what's that switch on your grip? Do you have laser sights?

I'm not sure I 'enjoy' cleaning but I do it every time after a range session. However, for HD, I'm thinking about not doing it unless I can fire a magazine after cleaning. As a general once said, a clean gun is an untested gun.

I use Hoppe's for cleaning, Militic for lub/protection and TW25B for greasing the rails/outside of the bore. Then a silicone cloth for wipedowns after cleaning.


I found I like the beavertail, no more worries about losing chunks of skin from the hand....

and yes, those grips are crimson trace lasers - they came with it.

I use hoppes too - very good stuff and its great on my .22 that gets lots of gunk built up from lots of usage

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