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[Cloud9]

Then why does my mothers office (attached to a Planned Parenthood clinic) get evacuated for bomb threats on a monthly basis?

Because people are more talk than action. If they were action oriented, your mother's building would be blown up on a monthly basis.

[Chad Vander Veen]

What about Lodi?

Sing it with me now!

./~ It's a small world after all ./~ It's a small world after all ./~ 

Oh yeah, s---, that's a good point! How could I have forgotten to add that point!? If would''ve whooped Cloud even worse!

Oh, and Cloud, the communazi thing was a joke.

[Cloud9]

I'm not ignoring that. In fact, I've advocated that very point repeatedly.
Of course, but if you surveyed the entire country and found on average 2% skydive, then you could very well assume that 2% of the people in every town skydive.

And on the world stage, there is no other country more similar to the US than the UK. If one percent of Muslims there support terror, it is not unreasonable to figure the same (or similar) is true in the US.

I win again.

Only on an even statistical distribution of every city in the country. The reality is that in some cities you'll get practically none, and in other cities you'll get more than the average.

Outliers skew statistical populations.


On the second, unbolded point, again, even if your premise held true, why do the Folsom people choose to believe that those building the mosque or attending the mosque will be part of the 2 million terrorists and terrorist supporters instead of the 1.298 billion which is much more likely just based on the numbers.

[Chad Vander Veen]

On the second, unbolded point, again, even if your premise held true, why do the Folsom people choose to believe that those building the mosque or attending the mosque will be part of the 2 million terrorists and terrorist supporters instead of the 1.298 billion which is much more likely just based on the numbers.

No one is saying, I don't think, that we're more likely to get a group of real-deal terrorists than anyplace else, but does that mean everyone should be tickled-pink?

Would you go on an amusement park ride that every 1 out 100 times intentionally tried to kill the riders?

[Cloud9]

What about Lodi? Was a mosque being built there by terrorists? Noone said the possibility of terrorists existing in any one location doesn't exist, but I doubt they're spending their time building mosques or waiting for them to be built.

Whatever the population of Muslim terrorists is in Folsom right now, it will be the same after the Mosque.

I don't hear anyone advocating going house to house to find any terrorist now, and if the mosque were never built can you assure me beyond any doubt that we'd never have terrorists in Folsom? Doubtful.

[Chad Vander Veen]

What about Lodi?  Was a mosque being built there by terrorists?  Noone said the possibility of terrorists existing in any one location doesn't exist, but I doubt they're spending their time building mosques or waiting for them to be built.

Whatever the population of Muslim terrorists is in Folsom right now, it will be the same after the Mosque.

But earlier you were advocating that Mosque were not places were terrorism is taught but the Lodi helps illustrate that terrorism is sometimes taught there.

I win again

[Cloud9]

No one is saying, I don't think, that we're more likely to get a group of real-deal terrorists than anyplace else, but does that mean everyone should be tickled-pink?

Would you go on an amusement park ride that every 1 out 100 times intentionally tried to kill the riders?

If that's how you'd like to look at it, then don't leave your house because 1 out of 100 times a criminal in the U.S. will intentionally seek to do you harm.

There's probably a long list of activities in which 1 out of 100 times it'll result in your bodily harm or death. I would look it up, but I'm in the middle of a call.

[Cloud9]

But earlier you were advocating that Mosque were not places were terrorism is taught but the Lodi helps illustrate that terrorism is sometimes taught there.

I win again

Show me where I explicitly stated anything about what happens inside a mosque.

You don't need a mosque to teach terrorism. Oh wait, maybe you do... for those "slow" terrorists...

[mylo]

Because people are more talk than action.  If they were action oriented, your mother's building would be blown up on a monthly basis.

http://search.news.y...linic bombed&c=

113 articles found. Granted, a few are dupes, but this is only a "recent news" search. I'd say that's enough action to nullify your point regarding extremists in our own back yard.

[Chad Vander Veen]

If that's how you'd like to look at it, then don't leave your house because 1 out of 100 times a criminal in the U.S. will intentionally seek to do you harm.

There's probably a long list of activities in which 1 out of 100 times it'll result in your bodily harm or death.  I would look it up, but I'm in the middle of a call.

I looked it up. There's not a long list. Sorry.

[mylo]

I looked it up. There's not a long list. Sorry.

I know you've got a 1 in 20,000 chance you'll get killed by a meteor.

[Chad Vander Veen]

I know you've got a 1 in 20,000 chance you'll get killed by a meteor.

So you're saying I am 20 times more likely to be killed by Folsom-area Muslim extremists than a meteor!? Is that what you're saying!!??

/pretty sure it isn't what you are saying

[mylo]

Interesting Off-Topic Statistics:

- If you are between 35 and 54 there is a 1 in 400 chance you will be dead within the year

- There is a better chance of being killed within the next 20 minutes, than winning the lottery

- 616 people died last year from Falling Down Stairs!

[Cloud9]

Let me tell you a little story. Back in the college days, a group of us were sitting around talking about adventure and sky diving etc.

Quite a few folks were adamant that they were going to do it. I had been listening silently, and when asked, I said, I think it's a great idea and would be fun to do, but I suspect you're all full of it - all talk no action.

That riled up the crowd and we started collecting signatures of people that were going to sky dive on some weekend 3-4 months out.

That group that began with 30 people grew to almost 200. As the date got closer and we started collecting the funds, we new people would drop out.

When some claimed that they weren't going because of the money, I'd put them on the spot and offer to pay (if they followed through). None took me up on it.

Others claimed that they couldn't make it that weekend, so I proposed two trips, the 2nd being open to whenever they could make it. Not one person agreed.

Finally, we had some 50 participants that had paid. Two weeks from the date of the dive, they started dropping like flies. We went down to 10 people the week before the dive - all of which paid in full.

A few days before the dive 5 of the 7 left claimed that they could only do it the following week (July 4th). So we moved the date to July 4th, 1993. (This was the 3rd time we had moved the date out).

On the 4th of July, I went to pick up the 3 folks that remained. Only one other person got in the car with me.

We went through the training and it came time to get in the plane. I was the only one on. I have no particular interest in sky diving, I did it to call the bluff of all the 'talkers'.

None of those people ever jumped.

Not a day goes by in America that people don't talk about losing weight, getting rich, going to college, etc. noone said that people don't do those things, but if any were done to the degree that they're talked about, we'd be a nation of thin, shapely, rich and educated people.

Reality is that somewhere between 1-3% are very wealthy, with wealth concentrated in the top 5-10%, 65% of us are fat (myself included), 70% do not have a college education.

Now, I don't hold any of these things against people, but I don't confuse 'talk' with action.

[mylo]

Your friends are #ussies!

I invited 10 friends to go, 2 declined, 3 couldn't make it because of money (and I wasn't going to pony up for them).. 5 of us went!

And now you see how this relates to Mulsim extremists!