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[Steve Heard]

I know all 4 of the candidates; Through work and volunteering (Miklos), through 'Slow Down Folsom' and Folsom Arts and Cultural Commission (Howell and Morin), my kids at Folsom Middle School (Gordon).

The one I know most about is Steve Miklos. I see him nearly every day, and I don't know how he can keep the schedule he does. He is forever volunteering for various schools, charities, and other events. He sits or has sat on different boards and committees, and generally works his butt off.

I know Michael Gordon because he is my daughter's English teacher, and I used to work with his wife. He's a decent, hard working guy.

When I was up for a position with the Folsom Arts and Cultural Commission, several council members wished me luck, but Kerri Howell was the only one who put me to the test, asking for my position on a couple of issues.

Andy Morin I know more as a family guy, jogger, and businessman, and know that he, as did the other incumbents, support the Slow Down Folsom campaign.

I run into each at various city and community events and activities, as well as private events, and have gotten to know them a little.

From what I know of them, they all want what is best for the city, and all are willing to take on an often thankless position, and are all of good character. I don't know how we can go wrong with any of them, but we can only vote for 3.

I liken it to having a sports team with great players, but you can't play all of them at the same time. It's a good position to be in, but a difficult choice.

[Sue]

Nice to hear positive comments about the other candidates. Maybe we should give a little credit to the candidates that are staying "above" all of this idle chatter and not getting right in the middle of it. Obviously, you are going to like someone who is putting their best foot forward on this forum. I mean what kind of fool candidate would come on this forum and not tell you what you want to hear. Like others have mentioned, go by candidates past voting record (that's the true story), ask around town, ask your neighbors, ask at your kids school, do whatever is necessary, but for Gods sake, don't just go off what you read on this website.

[DrKoz23]

Robert, I bet you really had to bite your tongue to wait this long in the day to say anything....

GO KERRI.... VOTE KERRI FOLKS....

Why do you say that? Maybe Robert was busy all day long and didn't have time to check the forum. I can't speak for him... but couldn't that be a logical explanation? Just because his opinion differs from yours... it doesn't make him wrong. Its just his opinion based on his beliefs. Could that be the reason for your above post that offered little if any substance?

I have not agreed with Robert on much... but he has gotten me thinking on numerous issues... even if it just meant re-affirming my stance. This would be quite a boring place if everyone agreed... wouldn't it?

[ducky]

Nice to hear positive comments about the other candidates. Maybe we should give a little credit to the candidates that are staying "above" all of this idle chatter and not getting right in the middle of it. Obviously, you are going to like someone who is putting their best foot forward on this forum. I mean what kind of fool candidate would come on this forum and not tell you what you want to hear. Like others have mentioned, go by candidates past voting record (that's the true story), ask around town, ask your neighbors, ask at your kids school, do whatever is necessary, but for Gods sake, don't just go off what you read on this website.

Well, by that logic, we shouldn't pay attention to your post either.

Whose "friend" are you, Sue????

[Barb J]

Is it wierd that I like both Kerri and Robert????????

Barb

[Robert Giacometti]

Robert, I bet you really had to bite your tongue to wait this long in the day to say anything....

GO KERRI.... VOTE KERRI FOLKS....

Cal,

I wanted to get my apology out to Michael Hughes first, so I didn't have to bite my tongue..... my foot was in my mouth

Then I spent quite a bit of time reflecting on what Tessieca said about me... not being fair towards Kerri. I called and talked to a few people who I feel are level headed & even minded to bounce some thoughts off them and make sure I was staying somewhat in bounds with my thinking.

Then I responded to Tessieca's post.

Just so you know I'm not really happy with joy that I'm voting against Kerri! I truly wish Kerri would have chosen NOT to run....not for any selfish reasons, but I sincerely feel it is time for her to move on. IMHO, she has chosen to position herself as the disident on almost every issue, therefore she will be ignored by her colleagues and have little chance at affecting policies. You could look at it from this perspective, Kerri is the glue that holds the majority togther. Without her on the council, there could be possibly even more ideas and discussions, because they wouldn't have to work around her.

She portrays herself as the victim of the other 4, but the reality is she seeks out that position. By doing this she makes herself ineffective on issues and won't be able to get any of her goals accomplished! I do believe however, she has a very good chance of being reelected, if she does I sincerely hope she will rethink her strategies and reach out to bring people together rather than what she has done in the past .

I'd suggest to her to steal page from Govenator Arnold's playbook...remake yourself to get some things accomplished rather getting nothing. Not only would it be better for Folsom it would be better for her!

[cw68]

Tessieca,

After reading her posts do you sincerely feel I'm the one NOT being fair?

You state that Kerri didn't ask for any endorsements from her colleagues...could there be a possibility that maybe Kerri felt as though no one would endorse her so maybe that is why she never asked any of them? I've talked to some privately and asked them if they would have endorsed her if she asked, their answers were very polite but direct....NO!

There is a reason why the existing council members aren't endorsing her and I don't think its because of her style & directness!

I'm not back-door bashing anybody here. I am pointing out what Kerri has written, what she has said and the way she has voted. I'm not sharing anything she may have ever told me in private....I won't do that to anybody. Kerri is the one who suggested something about my personal life in a public forum...have I ever done that to anybody?

When I express my support for something....like the District being proactive in setting up financing for schools for S50...I want people to believe I'm saying it because its something I believe in...rather than trying to guess how I am personally benefitting from it. I'm not going to look the other way if I feel something is wrong just so I can possibly get some favor in return down the road, I thought you knew me better than that?

I'll admit that maybe I'm just a little sensitive having someone from the District tell me I'm being unfair in a public forum.

Robert, you know I like you, but the above statement contradicts itself.

[melloguy]

Is it wierd that I like both Kerri and Robert????????

Barb

No, I know them both and do also.

[Robert Giacometti]

Robert, you know I like you, but the above statement contradicts itself.

Cw, Well you know I like you too, being from the "Land of Lincoln" and all. I could try and make the arguement it doesn't, but it would be splitting hairs.....since we all like each other, I'll just recontact the council members I talked to and ask them if I can specifically quote them by name and write their responses publically. This way it might clear up any confusion on this matter.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

[Buford T Justice]

Cal,

I wanted to get my apology out to Michael Hughes first, so I didn't have to bite my tongue..... my foot was in my mouth

Then I spent quite a bit of time reflecting on what Tessieca said about me... not being fair towards Kerri. I called and talked to a few people who I feel are level headed & even minded to bounce some thoughts off them and make sure I was staying somewhat in bounds with my thinking.

Then I responded to Tessieca's post.

Just so you know I'm not really happy with joy that I'm voting against Kerri! I truly wish Kerri would have chosen NOT to run....not for any selfish reasons, but I sincerely feel it is time for her to move on. IMHO, she has chosen to position herself as the disident on almost every issue, therefore she will be ignored by her colleagues and have little chance at affecting policies. You could look at it from this perspective, Kerri is the glue that holds the majority togther. Without her on the council, there could be possibly even more ideas and discussions, because they wouldn't have to work around her.

She portrays herself as the victim of the other 4, but the reality is she seeks out that position. By doing this she makes herself ineffective on issues and won't be able to get any of her goals accomplished! I do believe however, she has a very good chance of being reelected, if she does I sincerely hope she will rethink her strategies and reach out to bring people together rather than what she has done in the past .

I'd suggest to her to steal page from Govenator Arnold's playbook...remake yourself to get some things accomplished rather getting nothing. Not only would it be better for Folsom it would be better for her!

Robert are you saying that Kerri is supposed to agree with every single issue/vote that comes before her just in order to get along with the other guys?

[Barb J]

Oh no Robert! I think I spoke too soon!!!!

The fact that Kerri doesn't just go along with the good ole boys is precisely why we need her on the council!
Unfortunately for you, since you clearly aren't supporting Kerri's candidacy, I think you just got her a bunch of votes!!!! As someone who isn't as involved in the city politics as you are, this was news to me!

Barb J

[Redone]

Robert are you saying that Kerri is supposed to agree with every single issue/vote that comes before her just in order to get along with the other guys?

I think he's saying she doesn't get along with a single other councilperson, ever. Also, she may enjoy being the "odd man out". I would like her to name one thing she's put forward that passed and not what she voted against.

[camay2327]

Buford T, that is what I was thinking. Robert do you think that every vote should be 5 - 0? Everyone vote the same all the time?

I think that it was you that once said that Kerri was against the library and I said she was not against the library but just the location of it. (Maybe it was someone else) If you remember councilman Starsky, who isn't running this time, is the one that was against the building of a new library, he wanted to keep the present one.

[tessieca]

No, I know them both and do also.

Ditto that. Robert, I said you were "unfair" because I think your post was interposing a lot of personal feelings that weren't necessarily based on fact. Even asking councilmembers now if they might have endorsed Kerri had she asked is speculative at best. I'd be surprised if you'd get anyone to let you put that on a public forum as a fact.

I think he's saying she doesn't get along with a single other councilperson, ever. Also, she may enjoy being the "odd man out".

It's an unenviable position to always be the devil's advocate and independent thinker on a council with a bunch who always agree with one another. I think that having someone to raise questions and not just vote along in order to get along is a valuable thing.

If you were to expect the entire council to always agree and get along on every issue, why on earth do we need 5 of them??!

Whether you agree with Kerri on all issues, or not, I would think you'd have to agree she's useful for keeping true deliberation alive.

[folsom500]

Robert- Considering THE single OPTION that voters are left with in this election- you sure picked a poor time to not get in the race- and your reasoning of keeping the pool of candidates small with only Gordon as THE option surely doesnt float my boat.. He is nothing more than a self centered- ill informed - good ole boy wantabe. with no or very little self expression of how he could help the City and council ( see his poorly answered question on this forum- and Yes I have met him at the Folsomforum social ) .. as he has said himself he 'is well connected' to Miklos and touts that as one of his biggest ( my words) assets in this race...
Heck even his signs are joined at the hips of Miklos signs in some locations..

If we had two options- or at least one other responsible , viable option, then maybe something might change in the make up of the council - but likely Kerri , as she should, would be voted in regardless...

Cheers
F500

Hmmm- Robert- as you are the one that has dissed Kerri the most and would wish that she had not considered reelection - as you yourself have chosen NOT to enter the race-- I just wonder why you could not respond to this post about the only alternative... which is NOT a good choice...

Cheers
F500

It's an unenviable position to always be the devil's advocate and independent thinker on a council with a bunch who always agree with one another. I think that having someone to raise questions and not just vote along in order to get along is a valuable thing.

I think that is the same with Marylin Maggio's entry as candidate on the school board- but alas - that is a different topic ( have to look to see if one is in this forum) - --


Cheers
F500