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[texson]

you didn't even come close to addressing the points i asked you to. But then again, you stated yourself "i'm not sure what the answer is". You just find another topic to rant about. why don't you back up, speak to the points and move on. All you do is create more confusion for the other readers. I find it interesting that you didn't address anything in my post. BTW, 1000 hr employee? really, thats hiring a firefighter for 2.03 months. Also, the Folsom guys (fire) that i know of are toward the bottom of other comp cities salaries. Now, i do agree with you that these departments need to open their books, something is fishy around here. But please, try not to blame the guy on the street, it does nobody any good! Contracting for Paramedic services does indeed NOT work. If the other city that looked into it found it to be cost worthy, then why didn't they? But i digress for now since I still havent heard anything from you on the other issues. "JRUDI" have you forwarded these ideas to your bosses at city hall? Or is this just all anger speak?

[ducky]

Wrong.

By the way, I don't recall you ever mentioning who your employer is. Do you work for the city? Or, by chance, are you a city commissioner appointed by a particular council member? Just a hunch.

No, I don't work for the city, never have, nor am I a commissioner appointed by a council member.

Sorry, I had a hunch, too. I have to compliment you on your grasp of city business.

[Robert Giacometti]

No, I don't work for the city, never have, nor am I a commissioner appointed by a council member.

Sorry, I had a hunch, too.

I thought you said I gave it away?

[ducky]

I thought you said I gave it away?

Sorry. Are you the only one who gets to kinda have a gut feeling and connect the dots?

[Redone]

Sorry. Are you the only one who gets to kinda have a gut feeling and connect the dots?

Every time I see Ducky, I think AFLACCCCC!!!!

[ducky]

Every time I see Ducky, I think AFLACCCCC!!!!

Is that a dig?

[supermom]

hmm-jrudi-you're all over the place, on this.

I too have seen Joint safety offices successfully operate. Mainly in very rural, subdued, low tax area. Such as central pan handle towns.

Ducky, I feel your quack--I mean I feel your pain, the guys are ribbing you.
Did you know that ducks ribs have much less mass than "animals" with ribs? (never mind, just trivia.

anyway, if you set semantics aside, and the lee force of the gale wind-- I have to say something at this point.
Breaking the backs of the part time work force is costly. You would rather pay an uninsured employee to run into a burning fire than to have a constantly well trained fireman? Me thinks it will be the retired annuitant who will take the job--minus the requirements of the full time worker to stay educated and physically fit. But, whatever...

Futilism is a better mode of apple bobbing-especially if you are standing knee high in sand. Let's all scream, but they said we can't complain!

Either make a formal complaint or stop complaining. You are doing absolutely no one any good by vacillating. If you have news-worthy news and are afraid of exposing your boss then send a purty little letter to someone who has the intestinal fortitude to make an official inquiry.
Come one people, this is simple.
Turn your ethics radar onto the "on" position.

Rumor
Fact
lie

Ain't that right, old soldier?

[JRudi]

hmm-jrudi-you're all over the place, on this.

I too have seen Joint safety offices successfully operate. Mainly in very rural, subdued, low tax area. Such as central pan handle towns.

The City of Fairfield had a combined Public Safety department for decades, and just recently separated them (I believe). I seem to recall that the City of Sunnyvale has been the "model" for combined public safety departments for quite some time. And, I'm sure I could find some more examples if I spent some time researching the issue.

The bottom line is that there has to be a more cost-effective way of providing public safety services. It now comprises about two-thirds of the City's General Fund (again, going by memory). I seem to recall Vallejo getting into trouble once their public safety budgets began approaching 80 percent of their General Fund.

Folsom has had the luxury of being General Fund rich for quite some time, and as a result has allowed the budgets of its public safety departments to expand unchecked. (For example, the Police Department went almost $1 million over budget last year.) But, with the drastic reduction in General Fund revenues the past two to three years, the City can no longer afford to fund their public safety departments at the same rates as they have in the past. Unfortunately, however, the majority of the cuts in the City budget has come from other areas. This, I believe, can all be attributed to the political influence of the public safety unions (and the Police Chief). But, if the economy continues to remain stagnant, as predicted for the next couple years, and with the rising costs of employee costs, something will have to give. Either public safety will have to become more efficient, or other city services will have to be cut drastically.

[knowfolsom]

You might recall late last summer there was topic going regarding DUI's. I made a post predicting there might be some breaking news that might make headlines. I can't find that thread anywhere. Maybe, I'm just looking under the wrong heading, but I will keep looking.

Robert here's your quote from your reply to Irish 1 last summer



"QUOTE (irish1 @ Sep 1 2009, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What might that be implying...? More to the point, perhaps..?

Heck, most everybody who knows what Is, Is, knows exactly what I am talking about.

So when is the news going to be released? The Bee should have some front page Section B news soon right?"





It's under a DUI Checkpoint Thread. I found it by searching DUI Checkpoint

I myself was initially surprised when it didn't come out in the media. However when I heard how it was covered up, it didn't surprise me at all. In fact the impression I got from Irish 1's post was he knew exactly what you were talking about, but may not want to have spilled the beans given his position with the department.

So that's the date, maybe some budding investigative journalist can jump start their career with this one. I would try requesting case numbers from the PD for that date in question and figure out the one that's missing.

[the_professor]

Robert here's your quote from your reply to Irish 1 last summer



"QUOTE (irish1 @ Sep 1 2009, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What might that be implying...? More to the point, perhaps..?

Heck, most everybody who knows what Is, Is, knows exactly what I am talking about.

So when is the news going to be released? The Bee should have some front page Section B news soon right?"





It's under a DUI Checkpoint Thread. I found it by searching DUI Checkpoint

I myself was initially surprised when it didn't come out in the media. However when I heard how it was covered up, it didn't surprise me at all. In fact the impression I got from Irish 1's post was he knew exactly what you were talking about, but may not want to have spilled the beans given his position with the department.

So that's the date, maybe some budding investigative journalist can jump start their career with this one. I would try requesting case numbers from the PD for that date in question and figure out the one that's missing.

You do realize the more outlandish your accusations the more evidence you need to bring to the table.

[Robert Giacometti]

Robert here's your quote from your reply to Irish 1 last summer



"QUOTE (irish1 @ Sep 1 2009, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What might that be implying...? More to the point, perhaps..?

Heck, most everybody who knows what Is, Is, knows exactly what I am talking about.

So when is the news going to be released? The Bee should have some front page Section B news soon right?"





It's under a DUI Checkpoint Thread. I found it by searching DUI Checkpoint

I myself was initially surprised when it didn't come out in the media. However when I heard how it was covered up, it didn't surprise me at all. In fact the impression I got from Irish 1's post was he knew exactly what you were talking about, but may not want to have spilled the beans given his position with the department.

So that's the date, maybe some budding investigative journalist can jump start their career with this one. I would try requesting case numbers from the PD for that date in question and figure out the one that's missing.

Thanks for finding that thread. This proves the issue wasn't just manufactured before an election, since it was referred to 14 months before this election.

We the community are owed an explanation or statement of some kind.

[supermom]

Thanks for finding that thread. This proves the issue wasn't just manufactured before an election, since it was referred to 14 months before this election.

We the community are owed an explanation or statement of some kind.

Huh.

So, have you actually directly contacted these accused persons and asked for an explanation? Or are we assuming the the accused persons should bite into an anonymous web site's chatroom and verify or deny these claims?

Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sound like a realistic expectation...

[Robert Giacometti]

Huh.

So, have you actually directly contacted these accused persons and asked for an explanation? Or are we assuming the the accused persons should bite into an anonymous web site's chatroom and verify or deny these claims?

Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sound like a realistic expectation...

What I'm trying to do is raise the awareness within the Community. Maybe if enough within the community start asking questions, it might prompt a response or action by the community.

Don't you want to know the truth?

[supermom]

I do.
I directly sent an email to her askeing for her input and directed her to this thread. She refused to respond. That was nearly a year ago. As far as I know, she never addressed this publicly, either.

This is worrisome to me. Any public official who is politely informed of such accusations against them and does not make a concerted effort to clear her name or find follow professional ethical guidelines and hand such accusations over to authorities for examination makes me feel the person is not fully trusting the legal system in the town they represent.

My faith in this person as a "good guy" is seriously damaged, now. So much so, that I cannot in good conscience vote for her into any office, again. She needs to address this.

[supermom]

Wow, I can't believe how much of this thread was deleted and much of it by quite a few posters who said nothing that falls nto the rules of the forum for reasons of being censored.