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[rpo]

Since when has religion not been taught? I learned about the history of Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism at FHS my frosh year.

I remember the exact same thing happening 15 years ago as well. In fact, I clearly remember having a pop quiz about the Mormon religion that a good friend, who was a lifelong Mormon, failed. We joked about it for at least a week. That was in the 7th grade.

[rpo]

My answer is this.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse

But yes, let's move on.

Why should children be taught about gay history in public schools, when religion can't? I'm just saying.....this is going to open a door for that as well.

Are you not going to explain why you keep trying to falsely link homosexuality with pedophilia?

[cw68]

As a parent and former student, I'm thinking that something along the lines of "Mr. Joe Schmoe did XYZ." then where you might say, "He and his wife, Anne, met while whittling sticks... " would be replaced by, "he and his partner, Jim, met while whittling sticks... "

The first one needs no explanation, so why would the second one? A few words can say a lot. Parents, families, communities and life experience can provide context and explanation. Do we teach heterosexualism in school? Conversely, homosexualism needs not to be taught.

End of story.

[swmr545]

As a parent and former student, I'm thinking that something along the lines of "Mr. Joe Schmoe did XYZ." then where you might say, "He and his wife, Anne, met while whittling sticks... " would be replaced by, "he and his partner, Jim, met while whittling sticks... "

The first one needs no explanation, so why would the second one? A few words can say a lot. Parents, families, communities and life experience can provide context and explanation. Do we teach heterosexualism in school? Conversely, homosexualism needs not to be taught.

End of story.

Don't you realize tho that when you say "his partner Jim" you are teaching about gay sex?

[cw68]

Don't you realize tho that when you say "his partner Jim" you are teaching about gay sex?

Gay pedophile sex, no doubt.

[Barb J]

As a parent and former student, I'm thinking that something along the lines of "Mr. Joe Schmoe did XYZ." then where you might say, "He and his wife, Anne, met while whittling sticks... " would be replaced by, "he and his partner, Jim, met while whittling sticks... "

The first one needs no explanation, so why would the second one? A few words can say a lot. Parents, families, communities and life experience can provide context and explanation. Do we teach heterosexualism in school? Conversely, homosexualism needs not to be taught.

End of story.

Exactly! Great post CW
Barb

[Chris]

Great article by Michael Medved on this subject. Chris

Gay Education Malpractice

http://www.thedailyb...alpractice.html

[ducky]

Great article by Michael Medved on this subject. Chris

Gay Education Malpractice

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/19/gay-history-law-in-california-is-new-peak-of-educational-malpractice.html

I wrote another post, but I guess it got lost somehow. Sorry if this is a repeat.

This article is doing nothing more than speculating what might be taught, but it doesn't address what age levels it would be taught at. That's what I was asking, too.

I would have a problem with people in history being retroactively "outed" based on nothing but rumors and the fact that they were "a confirmed bachelor" or "old maid." Now, if there were writings in the person's own hand or something more to go on to be accurate, that would be different. I would have a problem with my child watching the R rated movie with Sean Penn. I think that's a stretch to say our children would be made to watch that. I've always had a form sent home to ask whether I would allow my child to watch anything over a PG rating.

If this is going to be more along the lines of what CW68 proposed, I can't get riled up over it.

[Chris]

This article is doing nothing more than speculating what might be taught, but it doesn't address what age levels it would be taught at. That's what I was asking, too.

Oh really, just speculation...? You and I both know it will happen and even more...! Look how great our CA "medical marijuana" law and it's resulting pot farms and dispensary's are doing....! Look how "reasonable" gun laws always result in laws that say you can have a hand gun but you can never have one in reality (D.C., Chicago, Heller decision...etc....). This is all really an attack on conservatism, organized religion, and those of us who are religious in this country. Sure, now we can emphasize the fact that Walt Whitman was gay above his poetry and his service to our soldiers in the Civil War. Let's switch this up, what if the Catholic or Mormon Church proposed a law that that emphasized the "Catholicism" or the "Mormonism" of said historical figure before their accomplishments as a person of historical significance....? How long do you think that would last...? We both know that that law would never have even been brought to the floor for a vote let alone a committee before it was laughed off by the legislature and the liberal press here in CA. Chris

[caligirlz]

Oh really, just speculation...? You and I both know it will happen and even more...! Look how great our CA "medical marijuana" law and it's resulting pot farms and dispensary's are doing....! Look how "reasonable" gun laws always result in laws that say you can have a hand gun but you can never have one in reality (D.C., Chicago, Heller decision...etc....). This is all really an attack on conservatism, organized religion, and those of us who are religious in this country. Sure, now we can emphasize the fact that Walt Whitman was gay above his poetry and his service to our soldiers in the Civil War. Let's switch this up, what if the Catholic or Mormon Church proposed a law that that emphasized the "Catholicism" or the "Mormonism" of said historical figure before their accomplishments as a person of historical significance....? How long do you think that would last...? We both know that that law would never have even been brought to the floor for a vote let alone a committee before it was laughed off by the legislature and the liberal press here in CA. Chris

I totally agree with you Chris.

However, your line of reasoning with the example of religion will be rejected by the gay lobby, because "religion is a CHOICE, and homosexuality is not". Even though there is no other evidence in nature, of a homosexual human reproducing another homosexual. I am aware of the alleged research showing that "homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them." However, there is still no human homosexual gene, and human homosexuals do not reproduce homosexuals.
***Disclaimer: this does not make me a homophobe. I'm not afraid of homosexuals. Nor is this hate speech. ****

[ducky]

I totally agree with you Chris.

However, your line of reasoning with the example of religion will be rejected by the gay lobby, because "religion is a CHOICE, and homosexuality is not". Even though there is no other evidence in nature, of a homosexual human reproducing another homosexual. I am aware of the alleged research showing that "homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them." However, there is still no human homosexual gene, and human homosexuals do not reproduce homosexuals.
***Disclaimer: this does not make me a homophobe. I'm not afraid of homosexuals. Nor is this hate speech. ****

Is there a genius gene? We all know they exist, too, although there is no proof that geniuses reproduce geniuses. In fact, I've heard it skips a generation:)

[caligirlz]

Is there a genius gene? We all know they exist, too, although there is no proof that geniuses reproduce geniuses. In fact, I've heard it skips a generation:)

don't know. I haven't studied that topic.

[ducky]

Oh really, just speculation...? You and I both know it will happen and even more...! Look how great our CA "medical marijuana" law and it's resulting pot farms and dispensary's are doing....! Look how "reasonable" gun laws always result in laws that say you can have a hand gun but you can never have one in reality (D.C., Chicago, Heller decision...etc....). This is all really an attack on conservatism, organized religion, and those of us who are religious in this country. Sure, now we can emphasize the fact that Walt Whitman was gay above his poetry and his service to our soldiers in the Civil War. Let's switch this up, what if the Catholic or Mormon Church proposed a law that that emphasized the "Catholicism" or the "Mormonism" of said historical figure before their accomplishments as a person of historical significance....? How long do you think that would last...? We both know that that law would never have even been brought to the floor for a vote let alone a committee before it was laughed off by the legislature and the liberal press here in CA. Chris

I do think it's speculation until I know for a fact what is going to be taught. There are some examples in that article that I don't think would be appropriate at all, but I also don't see it happening.

Your examples of religion remind me of what I was taught when I had to do my California mission project versus what my son learned when he did his. The version I was taught was how the Monks were doing the Native Americans a big favor by bringing them religion and everybody lived happily ever after. My son learned what was more the truth which is that the Native Americans weren't treated well and didn't like being forced to convert to Christianity and having their culture taken away from them.