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#121 SacKen

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Oct 25 2006, 09:55 PM) View Post

... IMHO, she has chosen to position herself as the disident on almost every issue, therefore she will be ignored by her colleagues and have little chance at affecting policies. You could look at it from this perspective, Kerri is the glue that holds the majority togther. Without her on the council, there could be possibly even more ideas and discussions, because they wouldn't have to work around her. ...

I interpret this two ways. Either everyone else on the council agrees with each other and Kerri is the only one with different ideas and agendas or the others vote together almost out of spite against Kerri, regardless of their true feelings. I certainly hope it isn't the latter! Unfortunately, since you make the point that her not being there would spark more discussion makes me think that this is the case!

Whichever it is, IMHO it tells me that the rest of the council needs to be mixed up a bit and we need Kerri there because she is the only one that will question the decisions that are made! I don't want a room full of people that all have the same thoughts, ideas and agenda to be running my city!

It makes me wish that there were a couple unknown fresh faces running that weren't buddies with existing members.
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#122 Robert Giacometti

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(folsom500 @ Oct 26 2006, 03:29 PM) View Post

Hmmm- Robert- as you are the one that has dissed Kerri the most and would wish that she had not considered reelection - as you yourself have chosen NOT to enter the race-- I just wonder why you could not respond to this post about the only alternative... which is NOT a good choice...

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I think that is the same with Marylin Maggio's entry as candidate on the school board- but alas - that is a different topic ( have to look to see if one is in this forum) - --
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Ok, I'm guilty! You got me....I've been biting my tongue over your post and hoping you would go on vacation for 10 days!

I'll share my thoughts later (hopefully tonight) when I have time.





#123 Robert Giacometti

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE(SacKen @ Oct 26 2006, 04:54 PM) View Post

I interpret this two ways. Either everyone else on the council agrees with each other and Kerri is the only one with different ideas and agendas or the others vote together almost out of spite against Kerri, regardless of their true feelings. I certainly hope it isn't the latter! Unfortunately, since you make the point that her not being there would spark more discussion makes me think that this is the case!

Whichever it is, IMHO it tells me that the rest of the council needs to be mixed up a bit and we need Kerri there because she is the only one that will question the decisions that are made! I don't want a room full of people that all have the same thoughts, ideas and agenda to be running my city!

It makes me wish that there were a couple unknown fresh faces running that weren't buddies with existing members.


Ken,

You have assumed one thing and overlooked another....your assuming Kerri is the one who is doing what is best for the city and you have overlooked the possibility it actually might be her who has been the source of all the discord at city hall.

I'll try my best to explain....do your best to keep an open mind!

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 05:10 PM

I always have an open mind and never assumed anything about who had the city's best interest in mind. What I will never assume is that either side is always right. So that leads me to believe that in some cases Kerri is right. If the others are consistently always against her, even in the "rare" (as you seem to imply) case that she is right, then I start to see a pattern that can't be explained as simply coincidence.

What I do know is that Kerri typically has a good explanation that uses logic and reasoning to back her decisions, such as the math to back her dislike of the turf replacement. Maybe the others do as well, but I don't seem to hear their explanations as much. Both on this forum and when I watch the council meetings on TV, Kerri usually has plenty to say about a topic and doesn't hide her reasons. I don't seem to get that feeling with some of the others.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:12 PM

I've just made an observation that some of the posters on this thread have not met any of the candidates or don't claim them as friends...

If you don't know any of the candidates and you are curious as to why some of the posters do, it's because they are probably more active in the community than those that don't know any of the candidates...

I think most of them would return your email if you sent them a note... and probably would even return your phone call now especially the ones running for office....

While I know most of the council, I don't claim to be an insider here... but if memory serves me... Kerri ran as part of a slate of 3 council candidates about 8 years ago... one of the other 3 was Steve Miklos... so if they had a falling out... so what who cares....

Just because another council critter endorses a candidate doesn't mean his opinion has any more merit than yours or mine....

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(EDF @ Oct 26 2006, 07:12 PM) View Post

I've just made an observation that some of the posters on this thread have not met any of the candidates or don't claim them as friends...

If you don't know any of the candidates and you are curious as to why some of the posters do, it's because they are probably more active in the community than those that don't know any of the candidates...

I think most of them would return your email if you sent them a note... and probably would even return your phone call now especially the ones running for office....

While I know most of the council, I don't claim to be an insider here... but if memory serves me... Kerri ran as part of a slate of 3 council candidates about 8 years ago... one of the other 3 was Steve Miklos... so if they had a falling out... so what who cares....

Just because another council critter endorses a candidate doesn't mean his opinion has any more merit than yours or mine....

I've had exchanges with the candidates and I accepted a resolution at a council meeting, but I wouldn't say that I know them or am friends with them, even though I've had friendly exchanges with them. That said, I feel I know enough about them to feel comfortably knowledgable about my vote. Seek information and you shall find.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE(EDF @ Oct 26 2006, 07:12 PM) View Post

Just because another council critter endorses a candidate doesn't mean his opinion has any more merit than yours or mine....


Same reason why we really shouldn't take into account newspaper endorsements. Its THEIR opinion... not MINE. Just do some research... and choose the best candidate that you think will represent your beliefs and the good of the city.

Only 12 days to go!

#128 Kerri Howell

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 08:08 PM

Yes, I strongly urge all of you to call the candidates, email them (us), or talk to them in person. Please be informed when you cast your vote. If you are not informed on an issue or a candidate, don't just vote to fill the number of positions that are indicated on the ballot.

As much as I would like to resond to Robert's comments, I sent him an email the other day, telling him I would never again respond to him on a blog. I have known him for a long time. He knows my phone numbers and home address. He responded that he was too busy to respond to me. I am sure that had nothing to do with the fact that he was too busy at the time preparing a ridiculous, erroneous and probably slanderous letter to the Telegraph about me, and yet he still has time to bash me here, but still no time for a response to my email. Keep that in mind when you are reading a bunch of fluff from someone who does not have the intestinal fortitude to even respond to a private email.

EDF - thanks for the communication earlier this week! Just for the record, there was no slate 8 years ago. Me, Cyndi and Steve were all endorsed by the same people. There was no slate. Cyndi and I were commisserating, but Steve was not part of the group and me and Cyndi had no communciation between supporters. Though I must admit, that campaign, and the following four years on the Council together have made Cyndi and I life long friends. We talk or email every week or so. She is now living on the East Coast -which is where I am from (ok, DC and Boston are not real close, but closer than Folsom and either Boston or DC) She was just back to visit for our birthdays, visit her Mom, say Hi to friends and endorse my campaign.

Thanks again to all who posted here, for or against - VOTE on Nov 7

Kerri

To all of you who are voting for me, THANKS, I will work hard for all of us.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 08:20 PM

I went down to the Folsom Telegraph and asked Gloria Beverage (the editor) why Ernie Sheldon was allowed to put two articles in and she told me that he had actually tried to put in three. She said that he is so hard headed that he would not take a no answer that she finally allowed him to put in two. A person is supposed to only have 250 words and with two articles he went way over that. I asked her if she was going to allow me to put in two articles of rebuttle and she said that she guessed that she would have to let me. I am not sure if I will be putting any in, but might.

She also said that Roberts article had to be sent back to him to have it cleaned up some and that she had to edit it after that.

Go figure.


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Posted 26 October 2006 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE(camay2327 @ Oct 26 2006, 09:20 PM) View Post

I went down to the Folsom Telegraph and asked Gloria Beverage (the editor) why Ernie Sheldon was allowed to put two articles in and she told me that he had actually tried to put in three. She said that he is so hard headed that he would not take a no answer that she finally allowed him to put in two. A person is supposed to only have 250 words and with two articles he went way over that. I asked her if she was going to allow me to put in two articles of rebuttle and she said that she guessed that she would have to let me. I am not sure if I will be putting any in, but might.

She also said that Roberts article had to be sent back to him to have it cleaned up some and that she had to edit it after that.

Go figure.


I can't believe that someone would be so picky about the number of words in a letter to the editor that they would go down to the Telegraph and complain. It is quite childish. I can just imagine the conversation.

"Wa wa... Ernie got 2 letters. I want two letters. Wa Wa! I want 500 words... not 250 words... wa wa!"

You may say "go figure" about both Robert's and Ernie's letters... but I think we can say the same about you. Just think about what Gloria is saying about you after you left... if she said that about Ernie and Robert.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:04 PM

As both a soccer mom and a woman I found Ernie Sheldon's letter offensive. I'm really glad he pointed out I shouldn't vote for Kerri just because she's a woman. Lord knows I couldn't have ever figured that out myself. I mean, I couldn't possibly have any issues important to me besides chauffering children to soccer games and fixing my makeup.

I'll be voting for you, Kerri, because you'll be representing me as a resident, not as a gender.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE(Kerri Howell @ Oct 26 2006, 09:08 PM) View Post

Me, Cyndi and Steve were all endorsed by the same people.


Wow! This is some grammar. You're running for what? Hopefully, you're not running for the school board. sad.gif


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Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE(OnceAMarine @ Oct 26 2006, 10:12 PM) View Post

Wow! This is some grammar. You're running for what? Hopefully, you're not running for the school board. sad.gif



A partial quote from Miklos' answer to the questionnaire "... and be tained by ones opinion..."

Should be "... one's opinion..." Contrary to the rule for its, the genitive of the pronoun one always uses an apostrophe.

It can happen to anybody. It's a blog. Lighten up.

#134 Robert Giacometti

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 10:29 PM

QUOTE(folsom500 @ Oct 24 2006, 02:14 PM) View Post

Robert- Considering THE single OPTION that voters are left with in this election- you sure picked a poor time to not get in the race- and your reasoning of keeping the pool of candidates small with only Gordon as THE option surely doesnt float my boat.. He is nothing more than a self centered- ill informed - good ole boy wantabe. with no or very little self expression of how he could help the City and council ( see his poorly answered question on this forum- and Yes I have met him at the Folsomforum social ) .. as he has said himself he 'is well connected' to Miklos and touts that as one of his biggest ( my words) assets in this race...
Heck even his signs are joined at the hips of Miklos signs in some locations..

If we had two options- or at least one other responsible , viable option, then maybe something might change in the make up of the council - but likely Kerri , as she should, would be voted in regardless...

Cheers
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Since I truly believe the most important outcome of this election is that Kerri NOT be returned to the council and since Michael has been committed to running, had support and endorsements, the only thing I could do was sit out.

You don't have to agree with me, but please accept I'm doing what I truly believe is right.



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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE(camay2327 @ Oct 27 2006, 01:20 AM) View Post

I went down to the Folsom Telegraph and asked Gloria Beverage (the editor) why Ernie Sheldon was allowed to put two articles in and she told me that he had actually tried to put in three. She said that he is so hard headed that he would not take a no answer that she finally allowed him to put in two. A person is supposed to only have 250 words and with two articles he went way over that. I asked her if she was going to allow me to put in two articles of rebuttle and she said that she guessed that she would have to let me. I am not sure if I will be putting any in, but might.

She also said that Roberts article had to be sent back to him to have it cleaned up some and that she had to edit it after that.

Go figure.

Whatever.... I just viewed it as one big letter since in one paragraph he said "don't vote for this person" and the other was "vote for these three".





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