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#121 Robert Giacometti

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE(gorilla @ May 11 2007, 09:57 AM) View Post
they tend to get punchy here, you can tell who's a hardcore conservative and who's normal based on the posts they make here. don't let that the aholes get you down, they're everywhere so you can't really avoid them no matter where you go. It is hard to tolerate the Rush boobs, but they probably have a hard time with Cyndy Sheehan too although she's not on a daily show ranting and raving but then again she doesn't have as much money as Rush to afford a program on which to spread his propaganda bs. You are absolutely right that W is the worse president ever, but you just now insulted the hero of these people, now they're really going to be mad at you. ignorance is bliss.


Since I don't have your ability tell who is who, maybe you could enlighten me on who is a hard core conservative and who is normal. Maybe you could clarify who are the aholes as well?


I'm looking for some supporters who will argue with those on this forum who have called me a liberal, maybe I could get your help in that?


#122 ngilbert

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE(supermom @ May 11 2007, 10:57 AM) View Post
So if your conservative because you like Rush, and your liberal because youu like Sheehan----

then what of us who think they both blow extremely hot air?


Good question. Say what you will about Nixon, but I think he pegged it with "silent majority". After that they used to call us "soccer moms" and then they changed it "value voters" and then after that it was changed to "NASCAR dads" but I haven't heard what the new one is yet.

Oh, and at one time Pat Buchannan was calling us "peasants with pitchforks", but that one was kind of classist if you ask me (even though I do indeed own a pitchfork).

How about "innocent bystanders"? whistle.gif





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#123 ngilbert

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ May 11 2007, 10:59 AM) View Post
I'm looking for some supporters who will argue with those on this forum who have called me a liberal, maybe I could get your help in that?


Robert - You are such a big liberal!

(sorry man, that was the best I could come up with on short notice) smile.gif
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Posted 11 May 2007 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ May 11 2007, 10:59 AM) View Post
Since I don't have your ability tell who is who, maybe you could enlighten me on who is a hard core conservative and who is normal. Maybe you could clarify who are the aholes as well?
I'm looking for some supporters who will argue with those on this forum who have called me a liberal, maybe I could get your help in that?



As they used to say in law school, if you don't know who the class ahole is, it's probably you!


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Posted 11 May 2007 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE(bellaj @ May 11 2007, 12:09 PM) View Post
As they used to say in law school, if you don't know who the class ahole is, it's probably you!
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In Law school, it's hard to tell them apart. smile.gif
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#126 bishmasterb

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 11:49 AM

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In Law school, it's hard to tell them apart. smile.gif

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE(supermom @ May 11 2007, 09:54 AM) View Post
???????????

I hate to see SpecialEDF's anti teacher rantings go unchecked.

#128 supermom

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE(dori2u @ May 11 2007, 12:59 PM) View Post
I hate to see SpecialEDF's anti teacher rantings go unchecked.



Oh, well.... Ok then. Today is the last day of teacher appreciation week. How many of you


sent an apple to your child's teacher? tongue.gif

#129 Al Waysrite

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE(bellaj @ May 11 2007, 12:09 PM) View Post
As they used to say in law school, if you don't know who the class ahole is, it's probably you!
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When I went to law school they told us to look to the left, then to the right. Those people would probably flunk out before we finished. I'm guessing you were the one on my left.

#130 Robert Giacometti

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE(bellaj @ May 11 2007, 12:09 PM) View Post
As they used to say in law school, if you don't know who the class ahole is, it's probably you!
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I'm sensing you and your classmates may have disagreed on this one.

BTW, GB is a wonderful community, quiet, good schools and safe neighborhoods. I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I suspect some here, are hoping you find hapiness there!

#131 supermom

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 02:12 PM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ May 11 2007, 02:04 PM) View Post
I'm sensing you and your classmates may have disagreed on this one.

BTW, GB is a wonderful community, quiet, good schools and safe neighborhoods. I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I suspect some here, are hoping you find hapiness there!

Ya know I jusst don't get this line of reasoning. I thought all students hated the teachers kiss a**ers and then the bell curve-ruiners. After that was the grade smoochers and the jocks that flirted with the teachers. 'Coarse most people would be embarrassed to admitt if they were one of the above!!!

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE(Al Waysrite @ May 11 2007, 01:33 PM) View Post
When I went to law school they told us to look to the left, then to the right. Those people would probably flunk out before we finished. I'm guessing you were the one on my left.



huh? trust me, I didn't flunk out.

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#133 bellaj

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 01:11 PM

QUOTE(mylo @ May 11 2007, 12:44 PM) View Post
In Law school, it's hard to tell them apart. smile.gif


Ain't that the truth!

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 09:46 PM

Bellaj,

What kind of a question is that? To me, you're a closet conservative. If you're a true liberal, why would you move to what's been historically a conservative area?

If you have problems with conservatives, there's a great town about 20 + miles from here!! Davis. Better yet, I think Berkeley would be a great place for you!

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 02:10 PM

FWIW:

From what I can tell, there is a mixture of liberals and conservatives here in Folsom. I don't think we have anyone that is far, far to the right ( like you might see in Orange County) or far, far to the left ( like you might see in Berkeley). I came here expecting more Conservatism and have encountered mostly moderates that lean left or lean right. I think, with the influx of people from the Bay Area, we have more leaning left than we used to, but I've only been here for a year.

As for asking the original question, I don't think it's as loaded as you're all suggesting. I lived in a very conservative community for a long time. Being a left-leaning moderate in that environment was difficult because many people, while friendly, just didn't share my views and values. And there were a fair amount of bigots and liberal-bashers there. It did get tiresome, especially when I took great pains in my classroom to make sure that everyone's perspectives were honored and respected by all students whether they aligned with my own or not.

Once in a while, I'd encounter a liberal student in class. It was uncomfortable for me when the liberal student would express a personal view, such as atheism, in the context of medieval European theocracy (a 7th grade standard in social science), and a conservative student would disregard the academic argument in favor of a moral one in which the liberal child was subjected to the conservative student's moral judgements (i.e. all atheists go to hell and whatnot). Likewise, I could not abide someone with a liberal agenda imposing it on conservative students ( i.e. religious people are sheep following a figment of their imagination called "God"). I am religious, myself, and can appreciate the values associated with the conservative perspective, but I also think everyone should be free to make up his or her own mind without the snap judgements of others.

I don't have a problem with students engaging in rational debate, but when the majority intimidates the minority, the flow of ideas and the continuum of thoughts can just clog. It's very sad. I think Bella's concerns are reasonable, and it's a valid question to pose. It would be just as reasonable for a mom moving to Davis or Madison or Berkeley asking what she might encounter living in those liberal areas if she is conservative and concerned about the contradictory messages her children might experience in the majority view.

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