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#121 TawnyK

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 08:53 AM

QUOTE(chris v @ Dec 19 2007, 08:51 AM) View Post
So basically, what you are saying is I have no backbone and can be persuaded into anything because she is a spoiled brat who gets everything. Not in this lifetime. While I do tend to get very set in my ways, the more I think about stuff, the more I can see the other side. Andrea is a very strong willed woman but at no point has she ever forced anything on me. She is not the type of woman that will just sit back and be quiet about stuff, she will always voice her opinion no matter what. If anything I am the one who is extremely stubborn. Quite honestly because I get so set in my ways once I decide something I never even think about it again. I have been thinking about this topic a lot in this last week.... smile.gif




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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:11 AM

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... Andrea is a very strong willed woman but at no point has she ever forced anything on me.

I have a strong willed woman at home. I love it! It is never boring around my house.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:13 AM

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I have a strong willed woman at home. I love it! It is never boring around my house.


I wouldn't have it any other way. A submissive, quiet, woman is no fun.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:14 AM

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:28 AM

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I have a strong willed woman at home. I love it! It is never boring around my house.


I bet! But what does your wife think about your having this woman at your house?


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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE(ngilbert @ Dec 19 2007, 10:28 AM) View Post
I bet! But what does your wife think about your having this woman at your house?

I have to keep them seperated.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE(chris v @ Dec 19 2007, 08:51 AM) View Post
So basically, what you are saying is I have no backbone and can be persuaded into anything because she is a spoiled brat who gets everything. Not in this lifetime. While I do tend to get very set in my ways, the more I think about stuff, the more I can see the other side. Andrea is a very strong willed woman but at no point has she ever forced anything on me. She is not the type of woman that will just sit back and be quiet about stuff, she will always voice her opinion no matter what. If anything I am the one who is extremely stubborn. Quite honestly because I get so set in my ways once I decide something I never even think about it again. I have been thinking about this topic a lot in this last week.... smile.gif



It's not possible to know someone on a talk board....so I used the word "SOUNDS".

My wife is not at all reserved or meek; she is very strong willed too. So, I know a little bit about strong willed women.

My comments were to give honest input, as was the intention of this topic being on the board in the first place. I'm sure you had expected some comments which were not to your liking, weren't you?
Just going by the your posts, I had an impression that maybe wasn't correct, or maybe it was...I have no way of knowing.

However, this is such an important decision, and that is why you two are debating if you should have another baby or should not. It's not like going out and buying a car.....this will be a human being. And although I'm sure you know that, it does seem that there are certain people in this world, that idealize having babies, more than they think about how they will support them and the changes it will make in their lives.

I knew a couple who had two sons, and then 12 years later had two girls. This was because his wife felt her kids would soon be gone and she couldn't handle that thought, so wanted more babies. Did it turn out good for them? In their case no. But that was their case. Had they been a more stable couple, I'm sure they would have coped and been fine. But, she had some issues she had never dealt with and sooner or later, they affected the marriage.

This is a very personal topic, which the two of you have brought to the board and which some of us may be faced with at some time in our lives. Some of us have marriages with people that are more in tune with what we want and think, so no convincing is necessary, most the time. When people are in conflict about things, it's tends to point to underlying problems. One party or the other may have some issues that they aren't ware of, which need to be addressed. For example, are either of you feeling old and like you will be alone after your son is grown? Is there a feeling that having another child will make you feel young again? That may sound far fetched, but many people have these feelings and they are worth thinking about.


But I guess what bothered me is this thing with a partner being of the mind they think they know what is better than the other partner. Sort of like they have the answers and know everything, so they do the major thinking in their relationship.
For instance....why is it so important to your wife what color socks you wear???? You see, that right there is being too dominant to me. I don't tell my wife what to wear and she darn well knows not to tell me what color socks I should wear. There just sounds like too much of a power thing going on here, between you and your wife. She SOUNDS like she wants complete control over what you do. Does she buy your clothes? Does she tell you how you should cut your hair?....What sort of shoes to wear?....How much beer to drink or what kind? I mean really Dude, she tells you what COLOR SOCKS TO WEAR???? You must be really unsure about socks! And why is THAT such a big deal to your wife, anyway?

Maybe I'm just a dumb arse man that feels like a woman should not be telling me what to do, to the point I'm wearing the color of socks she wants. But if you like that, knock yourself out! I know I could never get away with telling my wife what she should wear....no way! Do you tell your wife what to wear????

I'm sure that most here don't really have any vested interest in whether or not you and your wife have more children, but you DID pose the question and so, posters gave you what you wanted, did they not? You can use the input to be offended and allow it to get to your ego, or you can use it how it was supposed to be used....as something to reflect upon. And that does it for me, really, I'm done here. I wasn't trying to be mean, just honest.

As a side note, if your wife is that good at convincing people of what is good for them, she REALLY needs to get into politics, because we are in bad need of some changes in this country. LOL!

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 07:42 PM

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It's not possible to know someone on a talk board....so I used the word "SOUNDS".

My wife is not at all reserved or meek; she is very strong willed too. So, I know a little bit about strong willed women.

My comments were to give honest input, as was the intention of this topic being on the board in the first place. I'm sure you had expected some comments which were not to your liking, weren't you?
Just going by the your posts, I had an impression that maybe wasn't correct, or maybe it was...I have no way of knowing.

However, this is such an important decision, and that is why you two are debating if you should have another baby or should not. It's not like going out and buying a car.....this will be a human being. And although I'm sure you know that, it does seem that there are certain people in this world, that idealize having babies, more than they think about how they will support them and the changes it will make in their lives.

I knew a couple who had two sons, and then 12 years later had two girls. This was because his wife felt her kids would soon be gone and she couldn't handle that thought, so wanted more babies. Did it turn out good for them? In their case no. But that was their case. Had they been a more stable couple, I'm sure they would have coped and been fine. But, she had some issues she had never dealt with and sooner or later, they affected the marriage.

This is a very personal topic, which the two of you have brought to the board and which some of us may be faced with at some time in our lives. Some of us have marriages with people that are more in tune with what we want and think, so no convincing is necessary, most the time. When people are in conflict about things, it's tends to point to underlying problems. One party or the other may have some issues that they aren't ware of, which need to be addressed. For example, are either of you feeling old and like you will be alone after your son is grown? Is there a feeling that having another child will make you feel young again? That may sound far fetched, but many people have these feelings and they are worth thinking about.
But I guess what bothered me is this thing with a partner being of the mind they think they know what is better than the other partner. Sort of like they have the answers and know everything, so they do the major thinking in their relationship.
For instance....why is it so important to your wife what color socks you wear???? You see, that right there is being too dominant to me. I don't tell my wife what to wear and she darn well knows not to tell me what color socks I should wear. There just sounds like too much of a power thing going on here, between you and your wife. She SOUNDS like she wants complete control over what you do. Does she buy your clothes? Does she tell you how you should cut your hair?....What sort of shoes to wear?....How much beer to drink or what kind? I mean really Dude, she tells you what COLOR SOCKS TO WEAR???? You must be really unsure about socks! And why is THAT such a big deal to your wife, anyway?

Maybe I'm just a dumb arse man that feels like a woman should not be telling me what to do, to the point I'm wearing the color of socks she wants. But if you like that, knock yourself out! I know I could never get away with telling my wife what she should wear....no way! Do you tell your wife what to wear????

I'm sure that most here don't really have any vested interest in whether or not you and your wife have more children, but you DID pose the question and so, posters gave you what you wanted, did they not? You can use the input to be offended and allow it to get to your ego, or you can use it how it was supposed to be used....as something to reflect upon. And that does it for me, really, I'm done here. I wasn't trying to be mean, just honest.

As a side note, if your wife is that good at convincing people of what is good for them, she REALLY needs to get into politics, because we are in bad need of some changes in this country. LOL!

ok, he used to wear black socks with SHORTS!! There are usually REASONS I tell him, well ... lets say, show him, other options. biggrin.gif There is no way in hell I could get him to go back to wearing black socks... So I can't control everything.

With him it is not that I control him, it is that I make him step out of his box and do something "off the beaten path" so to say. biggrin.gif

We are pretty young. A lot of people are just starting out at our age. We are not even 30! We still get asked if we are the 1st kids sister/brother. Well not as much this year as the last few years, but still not even 30. (and no, not 29 either)

So when he sad he was worried about being "free", we have PLENTY of time to be free.

He just needs time to think... time to make it logical, time to PROCESS CHANGE. wub.gif


Don't get me wrong, I love all of you for the input you have given us. You have made both of us think about "the other side" of what we wanted. You have given both of us a lot to think about. I love all of the examples you have shared, and even when I don't agree with it, it helps with the decision.

You guys are all very cool!! THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

No matter how it turns out! smile.gif
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 07:56 PM

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ok, he used to wear black socks with SHORTS!!



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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:20 PM

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The world desperately needs more women like you. Thumbs up!


I agree... us guys don't always know whats best for us, so it's a good thing you women keep us straight.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:41 PM

This is like watching "Reality TV"-living life in the public eye.

As this goes into the double digits number of pages you may need to introduce something spicy to keep the post count up. Could one of you possibly admit to being a food critic or "working your way through college" as a comcast customer service rep?
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 11:22 PM

WRabbit, Andrea tells Chris his black socks don't look so hot with his shorts, and (for an example that is quite true) he tells her she's sexiest is high heels. Result= Andrea owns ALL high heels. EVEN her flip flops have a heel, and Chris stops wearing black socks with shorts. Give and take, take and give.

It's safe. It's healthy. They compliment each other and balance each other out. I think that's the true sign of a good thing, Maybe that's just what my generation feels is a good thing?

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 11:30 PM

This doesn't fly as well as it used to....



Neither does this one....can you even imagine???



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Posted 19 December 2007 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE(TawnyK @ Dec 20 2007, 01:30 AM) View Post
can you even imagine???


Yes, since we're getting personal, I can imagine it. Been there, done that (but for health reasons, not because of "doubt, inhibitions, or ignorance").

"Desirable"? Makes you smell like a medicine chest. laugh.gif

As for the advice to the "little woman," sure, have dinner waiting, but when he doesn't come home for it, don't complain? Uh-huh. Sure. It's a good thing things have changed. NOBODY would be having babies (at least legitimate ones) because marriage would be a thing of the past.

I was raised in the fifties, and my father was at home with my mother and me every night. His recreation was taking us out to a movie now and then. I'd wonder if that was satire, but likely not. It's just that Dad was a prince.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 11:50 PM

QUOTE(Ronda @ Dec 19 2007, 11:45 PM) View Post
Yes, since we're getting personal, I can imagine it. Been there, done that (but for health reasons, not because of "doubt, inhibitions, or ignorance").

"Desirable"? Makes you smell like a medicine chest. laugh.gif


Thought you were on sabbatical Chad? All these multiple ID's are really getting hard to track.

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