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#121 Jolene

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE(cw68 @ Mar 27 2008, 10:48 AM) View Post
If anyone is remotely interested in getting a glimpse into an austistic mind, I would recommend reading the novel The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time by Mark Haddon. An excellent read.


Thanks for the reccomendation! I will definitely check that out.

Schuyler's Monster by Robert Rummel-Hudson is a great read, too and focuses on the fight that special needs parents have to go through, starting with the diagnosis and following through to dealing with medical and schooling professionals.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:26 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Mar 27 2008, 02:16 PM) View Post
Sorry. It's just that this story seemed to be a combination of 'the boy that cried wolf' and the girl who reports a rape and then recants the story (some of the parent's statements were pretty graphic). I'm not necessarily blaming the parents...just pointing out why some people show frustration with these kinds of stories. Hope that clarifies.


No one was crying wolf. Kacie was in danger, and it took a long time for the help that she needed to come along.
Overwhelmingly, people were not, in fact, frustrated with this 'story'. People were concerned, and did whatever they could to help bring her home.

#123 ChipShot

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE(EDH Jen @ Mar 27 2008, 02:26 PM) View Post
Kacie was in danger

Was she?? I'm being serious. Will you share the details if you are allowed to?? I think many people are curious about this whole ordeal since it was made such a public issue.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Mar 27 2008, 03:00 PM) View Post
Was she?? I'm being serious. Will you share the details if you are allowed to?? I think many people are curious about this whole ordeal since it was made such a public issue.

Are you trying to bait, here?

How can you be serious about a question like this?

Any child --whether they run away or noy--are in danger when not supervised for a long period of time.

When you add to that a young lady who could easily be thought to look over the age of 18 with a very serious disability--that spells trouble.

Your posts are ranging from ignorant to baiting to absurd. Step down. Take a class about autism--before you make any more ridicuous and insensitive statements.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE(supermom @ Mar 27 2008, 03:09 PM) View Post
Are you trying to bait, here?

How can you be serious about a question like this?

Any child --whether they run away or noy--are in danger when not supervised for a long period of time.

When you add to that a young lady who could easily be thought to look over the age of 18 with a very serious disability--that spells trouble.

Your posts are ranging from ignorant to baiting to absurd. Step down. Take a class about autism--before you make any more ridicuous and insensitive statements.



Not only that, but the public isn't entitled to the sordid details of her disappearance just because the search for her was so public. The search effort was public to bring her home. Period.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Mar 27 2008, 03:00 PM) View Post
Was she?? I'm being serious. Will you share the details if you are allowed to?? I think many people are curious about this whole ordeal since it was made such a public issue.



I think your the only one really pushing the issues of details - other than yourself and a few others eveyone else has wished the family well and when and IF they do tell the story we will know

Frankly I don't want to know the story its not my business she is home and safe, if my hard earned tax paying money was spent to bring her home "GREAT-- MONEY WELL SPENT THIS MONTH" she is home safely with her family and that is all I care about...




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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:07 PM

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I think your the only one really pushing the issues of details - other than yourself and a few others eveyone else has wished the family well and when and IF they do tell the story we will know

Frankly I don't want to know the story its not my business she is home and safe, if my hard earned tax paying money was spent to bring her home "GREAT-- MONEY WELL SPENT THIS MONTH" she is home safely with her family and that is all I care about...

But doesn't the public need to know if a strange man or men is/are on the prowl so other people don't become victims? This is rhetorical.

My point is some info needs to be made public as to what occurred. As to the appropriate time that info is made public, let law enforcement decide that. It's their baby now.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:08 PM

All I need to know is she was found. I'm happy to hear a happy ending. I don't know why anyone would feel owed any other details.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:17 PM

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But doesn't the public need to know if a strange man or men is/are on the prowl so other people don't become victims? This is rhetorical.

My point is some info needs to be made public as to what occurred.

You are correct. But that's OK. I'll get the info that I seek eventually. I feel like we deserve a little clarity/closure over what really happened. And I do prefer clarity over agreement.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Mar 27 2008, 04:17 PM) View Post
You are correct. But that's OK. I'll get the info that I seek eventually. I feel like we deserve a little clarity/closure over what really happened. And I do prefer clarity over agreement.



A little clarity/closure isn't quite what you implied you needed in asking EDH Jen if she will share details later. If a crime has been committed, that information will be made public at the appropriate time by law enforcement officials.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 05:04 PM

I am a little confused, or maybe that's what happens with stories like this, the "facts" are just confusing. I thought originally the reports were that Kacie had a developmental disability. Then I read or heard that she is a student at Pondo in the ED program (emotionally disturbed). Now everyone is referring to autism. I suppose in the scope of everything it doesn't really matter, but I am curious. Anyone know what type of disability she has?

I am very happy she is safe and home. I honestly believe if it weren't for this thread the ball wouldn't have started rolling. Hats off to all, especially Jen, I believe.


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Posted 27 March 2008 - 05:36 PM

In my opinion, there should be a concern that this young lady is getting the supervision she needs, in the future. In light of the fact that she has a disability of some sort, indicates there is a need for closer supervision than in the case of a normal child/teen.

If, in fact, there was a case of her neglect, by her parent or guardian, then one would hope Family Services would get involved and her parents be counseled.

Curiosity is a normal human condition and one should not be scolded for it. If people have a right to know, or not, people are interested in more details than just the fact that she is Ok and safely at home.

It's just human to be interested with knowing the "WHY" of a situation.

However, the person giving that information has to be the party directly involved; it isn't another persons place to tell details that are not theirs to tell. That can result in a lawsuit.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE(Resume Lady @ Mar 27 2008, 04:40 PM) View Post
A little clarity/closure isn't quite what you implied

Don't infer what my "implication" was. That's not for you to judge and/or characterize. I have my reasons for wanting more insight as to what actually took place here. If you don't like that, then that is not my problem.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE(supermom @ Mar 27 2008, 02:09 PM) View Post
Are you trying to bait, here?

How can you be serious about a question like this?

Any child --whether they run away or noy--are in danger when not supervised for a long period of time.

When you add to that a young lady who could easily be thought to look over the age of 18 with a very serious disability--that spells trouble.

Your posts are ranging from ignorant to baiting to absurd. Step down. Take a class about autism--before you make any more ridicuous and insensitive statements.


Where has it EVER been brought up that the girl is Autistic? I have not seen or read anything to that effect except in your posts. Does developmentally disabled mean that? What about the bi-polar thing? I for one think the bi-polar disorder is WAY over diagnosed sort of like ADD. Parents have a kid that is hard to handle and they build a crutch with all these disorders and start the meds.

I'm glad the girl is OK but there are large parts missing to this story. Me and Chipshot are the only ones to bring up the hard issues here meanwhile everybody else is just happy to go along with the story "as is" and move on. No accountability on the parents just happy she is ok. Yeah, I'd let my autistic kid with a 10 yr old mentality out with a friend at night, sure.

I can't wait until the FBI let's us in on "the rest of the story" as Paul used to say....


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Posted 28 March 2008 - 05:58 AM

Autism is a broad diagnosis, has numerous different level/degrees.

Developmental disability is a term typically used for what used to be referred to as mentally retarded.

Bi-polar is the new term for what used to be referred to as manic-depressant.

That's why I am just curious as to why references have been made in all 3 areas while speaking of Kacie. Again, it really isn't important I suppose, just satisfies my curious little mind.

As glad as I am that Kacie is home and safe, I do wonder why a child with any of the above diagnoses would be out with a friend alone, a friend who may not be so trustworthy and she'd apparently been missing over night once before...there has to be a lot more to this story. We are all jumping to conclusions, making statements based on pieces of info....but given ONLY the info that we have been given, I know, as a parent, I would have made different choices for my child. Again, that is based soley on the info we have, which can NOT be everything there is.





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