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[rda]

I don't think it works that way RDA. The purchase agreement was between myself and Becks. They advertised $500 in free groceries. I didn't even receive the coupon until after my couch was delivered. They are definitely liable to make good on the promotion.

Yeah well, tell that to the judge and see how far it gets you. Like they say, wish in one hand and............The world is built on the fine print. Even on the case mentioned (car dealer in Florida???) I seem to remember the dealership saying they would make good on it by sending them 25.00 a month as long as the client sent them their receipts for gas. I believe it was "in good faith" meaning not a court order but a PR move. I doubt a court would side with the customer on such a case. Rebates and these types of incentives are always full of fine print and limited liabilities. This new company has an insurance policy that kicks in if the model (less than 10% follow through???) breaks down and suddenly more people actually participate. It seems like their business model built upon people being flakey has been working for them for many years.

I sent my first coupon in 8 weeks ago so I should get my visa card tomorrow.......

[jmreed97]

Yeah well, tell that to the judge and see how far it gets you. Like they say, wish in one hand and............The world is built on the fine print. Even on the case mentioned (car dealer in Florida???) I seem to remember the dealership saying they would make good on it by sending them 25.00 a month as long as the client sent them their receipts for gas. I believe it was "in good faith" meaning not a court order but a PR move. I doubt a court would side with the customer on such a case. Rebates and these types of incentives are always full of fine print and limited liabilities. This new company has an insurance policy that kicks in if the model (less than 10% follow through???) breaks down and suddenly more people actually participate. It seems like their business model built upon people being flakey has been working for them for many years.

I sent my first coupon in 8 weeks ago so I should get my visa card tomorrow.......

Like I said... We will find out if myfreetravel goes bad because I am going to fight for my money until a Judge tells me I'm out of luck. I wonder if the insurance covers the unpaid liabilities they currently have.

[jmreed97]

Well, you're only partially correct. The $25.00 a month you get is a Visa gift card that can be used in any way you want. You don't have to use it at the grocery store. Yes, I believe you can maybe feel like you were lured in with a false promise, but did you really think they'd just hand you 600.00 in groceries when you walked in?

I have a business associate who sells these promotions and I think they're great. I am using them with my business. Beck's gets no kickbacks from the stores. They pay for each certificate and the deal is real. The profit comes from advertisers who have ads that will be stuffed into the envelope each month with your visa card and online when you register. It's free money for simply doing something you're already doing, buying 100.00 worth of groceries a month. The only "catch" is you have to pick your store (any store you want) and each month you spend less than 5 minutes and a .44 stamp and .02 envelope to mail in the receipt. For that, you get 25.00 a month for a year or 2 years or whatever your deal is.....It's not like a 2 for 1 coupon where you have to buy certain items. You can buy anything you want.

If spending 4 minutes and .50 a month to get $25.00 seems like a hassle, then it's a rip-off to you. My clients are very happy to get free money. Some people are just not into coupons.

LOL!! So are you still using these certificates for your business RDA?

Now I know why you hope Becks isn't liable... because that would mean YOU ARE LIABLE TOO!!

Also as an FYI for everyone, myfreetravel has lost it's A+ rating with the BBB and has had 90 formal complaints in the last year.

I predict they will be out of business within 3 months. I hope I'm wrong...

[rda]

LOL!! So are you still using these certificates for your business RDA?

Now I know why you hope Becks isn't liable... because that would mean YOU ARE LIABLE TOO!!

Also as an FYI for everyone, myfreetravel has lost it's A+ rating with the BBB and has had 90 formal complaints in the last year.

I predict they will be out of business within 3 months. I hope I'm wrong...

No, I'm not using them at all since the 1st company went belly up. I'm now a wait and see customer of the new company.

I gave out about 34 of the old coupons with my business, all about 6-8 months ago and to this day have not had one phone call asking what's up. So I guess their business model of people not following up is accurate.

I used mine with my carpet cleaning business and if they paid 40.00 for scotchguard treatment, I gave them a coupon. If/when anyone calls me to complain, I'll offer them a replacement coupon from the new (better?) coupon, free scotchguard treatment the next time I clean their carpets, or a refund of the 40.00. Apparently nobody even sent them in or forgot about them after they got no response.

[jmreed97]

No, I'm not using them at all since the 1st company went belly up. I'm now a wait and see customer of the new company.

I gave out about 34 of the old coupons with my business, all about 6-8 months ago and to this day have not had one phone call asking what's up. So I guess their business model of people not following up is accurate.

I used mine with my carpet cleaning business and if they paid 40.00 for scotchguard treatment, I gave them a coupon. If/when anyone calls me to complain, I'll offer them a replacement coupon from the new (better?) coupon, free scotchguard treatment the next time I clean their carpets, or a refund of the 40.00. Apparently nobody even sent them in or forgot about them after they got no response.

Glad things are working out for you RDA...

Looks like there are a lot more people following up with Becks. Perhaps it has to do with the type of business you have. I had my carpets cleaned 6 months ago and I have no idea what company it was or what number I would call if today I had a complaint. On the other hand, I can tell you where every piece of furniture in my house came from. With BBZ it took 16 weeks before I realized something wasn't right with the first company. What percentage of those 34 cards were given to your regular customers?

There is clearly something wrong with their business model otherwise BBZ would still be around.

[fthomas]

My wife made it to court today and presented our case to the judge. The whole thing lasted about 35 minutes and the judge asked both parties lots of questions. It appeared that he understood everything but in the end he said he would have to take the case under advisement, do some research, and would mail his ruling to both parties. I wish I had better news to report today but the good news was he didn't rule against us right away. I'm not sure how long it will take for a ruling but be assured as soon as we hear something you all will hear it too. In the meantime I'll still be surfing the web for any more news on this situtation. Keep your fingers crossed!

And jmreed97 - I agree with you and this was stated today in court. Our agreement was with Bassett and we did not receive our gas certificate and a copy of the Terms and Conditions until three weeks after purchasing our furniture.

[blahdc]

If spending 4 minutes and .50 a month to get $25.00 seems like a hassle, then it's a rip-off to you. My clients are very happy to get free money. Some people are just not into coupons.

The "hassle" is not spending 4 minutes and 50 cents a month it is not getting your $25.00.... not getting what you were promised....and being told to jump through hoops! Your clients are very happy of the idea I'm sure but wait 4 months then ask them how happy they are again. If the company were to actually follow through this thread would have never been created. So I call BS.

[jmreed97]

My wife made it to court today and presented our case to the judge. The whole thing lasted about 35 minutes and the judge asked both parties lots of questions. It appeared that he understood everything but in the end he said he would have to take the case under advisement, do some research, and would mail his ruling to both parties. I wish I had better news to report today but the good news was he didn't rule against us right away. I'm not sure how long it will take for a ruling but be assured as soon as we hear something you all will hear it too. In the meantime I'll still be surfing the web for any more news on this situtation. Keep your fingers crossed!

And jmreed97 - I agree with you and this was stated today in court. Our agreement was with Bassett and we did not receive our gas certificate and a copy of the Terms and Conditions until three weeks after purchasing our furniture.

Best of luck to you on your case! The fact that the judge is going to do research before ruling is a great sign! Please keep us posted. I am of course, still jumping through the (always moving) hoops of the new company.

[folsom2008]

I sent my first coupon in 8 weeks ago so I should get my visa card tomorrow.......

I guess there is no any visa card in the mail, rda?

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

My wife made it to court today and presented our case to the judge. The whole thing lasted about 35 minutes and the judge asked both parties lots of questions. It appeared that he understood everything but in the end he said he would have to take the case under advisement, do some research, and would mail his ruling to both parties. I wish I had better news to report today but the good news was he didn't rule against us right away. I'm not sure how long it will take for a ruling but be assured as soon as we hear something you all will hear it too. In the meantime I'll still be surfing the web for any more news on this situtation. Keep your fingers crossed!

And jmreed97 - I agree with you and this was stated today in court. Our agreement was with Bassett and we did not receive our gas certificate and a copy of the Terms and Conditions until three weeks after purchasing our furniture.

It is typical for a judge to not announce a ruling in Small Claims Court. I was in court last month, and even though the defendant didn't bother showing and it was clear the judge felt I had a sound case, he didn't make an official ruling at the time. The ruling came by mail approximately 1.5 - 2 weeks later (I don't check my PO Box every day, so I'm not exactly sure).

[jmreed97]

So today I was listening to the radio in the car (107.9) and I heard a commercial for Beck's... They are advertising the free grocery promotion again?!?!

Don't they realize that no one has received a gift card from the last promotion?


Idiots...

[SacDJ]

Idiots??

Not so fast. The "other" company has a history of clean (for the most part) business practices and perhaps they have faith they'll come through. Time will tell. I'm waiting for my proof in the mail anyday now.

[jmreed97]

Idiots??

Not so fast. The "other" company has a history of clean (for the most part) business practices and perhaps they have faith they'll come through. Time will tell. I'm waiting for my proof in the mail anyday now.

Check their better business bureau report. They lost their A rating because of the string of complaints (89 in the last year). Also, they are changing the terms and conditions of the redemption without notice. And no one on this forum has received a visa card yet.

I stand by my "idiots" comment...

Wednesday is the end of the 4-6 weeks after August 31st (the original terms and conditions said 4-6 weeks from postmark which was 3 weeks ago for me). We will see if anyone has a visa card by then.

http://www.bbb.org/c...iet-il-53000910

[SacDJ]

My company rep, a man in a suit mind you, has told me the new company will come through. I have no reason to doubt him. I'll assume they're legit until proven otherwise. The clock is ticking and I'm waiting for 2 cards at this point. They cashed my $9.95 processing check within 24 hours so I know they have a bank account and at least one employee who can sign their name.

As for calling Beck's "idiots", as a business owner, I find it interesting when someone slams a business that provides a service, product, jobs and tax revenue to a community. "Ill-advised" to jump into bed with another company so fast perhaps, but "idiots" is not a term I'd use for a successful and contributing member of our region.

[jmreed97]

My company rep, a man in a suit mind you, has told me the new company will come through. I have no reason to doubt him. I'll assume they're legit until proven otherwise. The clock is ticking and I'm waiting for 2 cards at this point. They cashed my $9.95 processing check within 24 hours so I know they have a bank account and at least one employee who can sign their name.

As for calling Beck's "idiots", as a business owner, I find it interesting when someone slams a business that provides a service, product, jobs and tax revenue to a community. "Ill-advised" to jump into bed with another company so fast perhaps, but "idiots" is not a term I'd use for a successful and contributing member of our region.

I understand your opposition to my phrasing, however my disgust is not in regards to Becks "jumping into bed with another company so fast." It is the fact that Becks is aware of the ongoing problems with myfreetravel (the new company). Despite this knowledge, they decided to run the promotion again.

Lets hope your man in a suit knows what he is talking about. We should recall that BBZ (the original bankrupted company) had men (I'd bet they wore suits too) touting the legitimacy of their identical program.

If this new company sends me a gift card by Wednesday, I will apologize for the comment. But as a customer who purchased two couches in February under a "free groceries" promotion, I am quite angry they are running the promotion again when I have not yet received a single $25 gift card.