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#121 Deb aka Resume Lady

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE (supermom @ Jan 29 2010, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is it--that the names of the perosns involved have not been put in the paper, yet?

A month ago, that 19 year old girl who hit and run and then hit again and again, her name was put in the paper right away.

Whats the double standard, here?



The media has said that because she hasn't been charged with a crime yet her name hasn't been released. Was the 19-year old hit/run driver charged right away?
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE (Deb B @ Jan 29 2010, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The media has said that because she hasn't been charged with a crime yet her name hasn't been released. Was the 19-year old hit/run driver charged right away?

I believe they arrested her as the ambulance took her to the hospital. Dumb broad ran her car into a pole after repeatedly hitting a human being with her car--while she was drunk.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE (Deb B @ Jan 29 2010, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The media has said that because she hasn't been charged with a crime yet her name hasn't been released. Was the 19-year old hit/run driver charged right away?

Yes, she was. she was arrested by the folsom PD, and then while in custody, Sac city arrested her for the hit & run on the horse carriage downtown.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:58 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Jan 29 2010, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, she was. she was arrested by the folsom PD, and then while in custody, Sac city arrested her for the hit & run on the horse carriage downtown.

uhhh--I think the horse carriage thing was a different person than what I was talking about. Folsom PD--I could be wrong---was not involved in the arrest.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE (supermom @ Jan 29 2010, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe they arrested her as the ambulance took her to the hospital. Dumb broad ran her car into a pole after repeatedly hitting a human being with her car--while she was drunk.


If she was arrested/charged right away, that would explain why her name was released right away.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE (mylo @ Jan 29 2010, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That could have been Dave, it could have been me, or my wife, and my child. I'm with Chris. Unless there's some off-the-wall circumstances that make this reasonably plausible, it sounds like this person is better off out of society. She's a risk to herself and others and has proven it 5 times.


Can you imagine how my little Jeep Wrangler would have faired in that accident? Not so good.. I think about that all the time... that was so damned close..., I still don't how I made it out of there within mere inches...

That durango held up pretty good, I think if and when I ever buy a replacement car, I'm going to get something safe like that



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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Jan 29 2010, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
can you enlighten as to the difference, i.e. if being sentenced to death and then the sentence is carried out doesn't fit with your "deserves to die" please explain in which manner you feel her death should come about. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one on here that would like to have a better understanding of your meaning.


I really don't care how she dies... she just needs to, whether it's getting hit by a car or being shot or put to death. I am making the broad statement that she no longer deserves to live. Maybe if she is Christain her god will kill her... I really don't care, I just think she is a waste of flesh and has no right being here. Good enough? And, yes there is a little bitterness here. And this is why. When I was 16, I had only been driving for a couple months, I was the first and only one on the scene of a horrific accident. It involved a speeding car and another car getting hit with such force that the driver was decapitated. I was 16, it has effed with me ever since, I will never forget those images. This was before cell phones, I didn't know what to do and no one else was around. Dave, please do, if this is still bothering you, go talk to someone about it. I didn't for a long time, and it did do irreversible damage to me.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (chris v @ Jan 29 2010, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really don't care how she dies... she just needs to, whether it's getting hit by a car or being shot or put to death. I am making the broad statement that she no longer deserves to live. Maybe if she is Christain her god will kill her... I really don't care, I just think she is a waste of flesh and has no right being here. Good enough? And, yes there is a little bitterness here. And this is why. When I was 16, I had only been driving for a couple months, I was the first and only one on the scene of a horrific accident. It involved a speeding car and another car getting hit with such force that the driver was decapitated. I was 16, it has effed with me ever since, I will never forget those images. This was before cell phones, I didn't know what to do and no one else was around. Dave, please do, if this is still bothering you, go talk to someone about it. I didn't for a long time, and it did do irreversible damage to me.


I hear ya, I was extremely angry at that lady, especially.. MOST especially because there were innocent children involved!!, it makes my blood boil when someone, anyone endangers a child's life angry.gif

talking about this all with everyone here over the past few days has really been helping me.... thanks everyone


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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:18 AM

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Can you imagine how my little Jeep Wrangler would have faired in that accident? Not so good.. I think about that all the time... that was so damned close..., I still don't how I made it out of there within mere inches...

That durango held up pretty good, I think if and when I ever buy a replacement car, I'm going to get something safe like that



You escaped being in the accident because you're a good defensive driver, aware of your surroundings and reacted (sped up to avoid the collision). Had you been texting (I know YOU don't) or fumbling with a CD player or reading or shaving or any number of other things that people get away with until it's too late..... you wouldn't have fared so well. People who multitask while driving don't understand how it only takes seconds to get into an accident, and then it's too late to take it back.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:30 AM

QUOTE (Deb B @ Jan 29 2010, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People who multitask while driving don't understand how it only takes seconds to get into an accident, and then it's too late to take it back.



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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:54 AM

QUOTE (Robert Giacometti @ Jan 28 2010, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This thread is detoriating fast.

Lets all take a moment and say a prayer for ALL those involved, including Dave.

The poor husband must be going through hell right now, he has a son who he loves, fighting for his life because of a negilent accident caused by the woman he loves. What a torment that must be for this poor man. On top of all this he has other children who are injured as well, probably crying out for their mother as well.

Do we really need to critique every word this poor guys says?

Let the police handle all of this, none of us knows for sure if the lady really did have too much to drink or if she really did have vicodin in her system. None of us knows if she suffered some reaction from taking any medication, that made her do the things she has never done before.

If indeed something happened that might explain everything, I couldn't imagine the torture and agony that this lady will suffer through for the rest of her life.

These life lessons should make us stop and think, hug those we love, be greatful for what we have and have faith that the system will do its job.

Well said Robert!

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (chris v @ Jan 29 2010, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really don't care how she dies... she just needs to, whether it's getting hit by a car or being shot or put to death. I am making the broad statement that she no longer deserves to live. Maybe if she is Christain her god will kill her... I really don't care, I just think she is a waste of flesh and has no right being here. Good enough? And, yes there is a little bitterness here. And this is why. When I was 16, I had only been driving for a couple months, I was the first and only one on the scene of a horrific accident. It involved a speeding car and another car getting hit with such force that the driver was decapitated. I was 16, it has effed with me ever since, I will never forget those images. This was before cell phones, I didn't know what to do and no one else was around. Dave, please do, if this is still bothering you, go talk to someone about it. I didn't for a long time, and it did do irreversible damage to me.

OK, thanks for clarifying, sorry you had to experience what you did.


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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:03 PM

Gawd, this is aweful! Since having a kid of my own, it breaks my heart and I actually have a physical reaction when I hear or see kids injured or suffering.

As someone that has had two family members killed by drunk/high drivers in two separate incidents, I 100% understand the "she deserves to die" feelings. It's my first instinct, too. However, in my old age I've also become much more aware about how much a person's entire life is affected by the interaction with their parents and their experiences as a child.

If this woman is a loving mother that, for whatever reason, slipped-up at the wrong place and time, then I doubt the world and her children would be a better if she were to die. Their physical and emotional healing would benefit from having their mother around to help them get through it.

I don't know anything about the people involved. I just think our system of punishment is so focused on revenge and making people "pay" that we fail to realize that the punishment may not always be in the best interest of society.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:21 PM

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She deserves to die... hopefully she'll have to live with this forever.

Well, which is it?
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (supermom @ Jan 29 2010, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you know what a TBI is?

That's what this kid has-from the sound of the injury. Even if s/he survives the bleeding--there will be permanent, irreparable damage. The extent won't be known for possibly up to a year, in many cases.


I don't know what "bleeding inside the brain" means in this child's case but if it helps...

When my brother was 4 year old, he injured his head in an accident and had bleeding in his brain. It's bleeding of teh brain in the skull with no way to drain, so it builds up pressure in the brain. That can cause death if you don't catch it. You may recall this is what Natasha Whatshername, Liam Nielson's wife, died from a few months ago. But that doesn't seem to be the case here as teh child is in the hospital. If caught in time, this is 100% treatable and no long-lasting damage is done to the person.

It does require skull surgery to drill a hole and drain out the blood. No doubt, this is serious business, but, if caught in time, it is not a death sentance or even brain damage causing. Some time (1-2 days) in ICU is needed, then a few more in the hopital, but once the skull heals up, only a scar remains to remind the person of the injury.

My brother has no effects from his accident.

So keep this in mind - the child may come out of this okay. Which is good news. smile.gif




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