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[Rich_T]

Loneliness. Companionship. Fantasy. Finances. There are lot's of reasons, outside of procreation. Perhaps even more so, if there weren't little feet paddling floors and shrill laughter skippering across walls and window panes.

I accept that non-religious people have their own variety of ideas on the purpose of monogamous relationships.

People would still pair up, but the idea of marriage as we understand it would become unnecessary, since it's really there for the creation of families. I never said that kids are the only benefit of marriage - there are others, as you mention - but creating families is all that ultimately matters to the institution as a whole.

We're at the point in society at which everyone is deciding for themselves why we have marriage. Lots of confusion. It only gets annoying when people tell other people they're wrong (and even evil), when it's actually just a matter of opinion, not a matter of discrimination.

[EDF]

This is one reason why the "gay activists" are going to irritate a lot of people who don't really care one way or another...

What we can't stand is the gay activist trying to shove their life style down our throats...

and here's a video to show you just how hateful they can be...

watch how this poor gal held her fire as this guy berates her..

http://www.breitbart...hru-Bully-Fired

[nomad]

This is one reason why the "gay activists" are going to irritate a lot of people who don't really care one way or another...

What we can't stand is the gay activist trying to shove their life style down our throats...

and here's a video to show you just how hateful they can be...

watch how this poor gal held her fire as this guy berates her..

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/02/Chick-Fil-A-Drive-Thru-Bully-Fired

Had me some Chick Fil A last night! Nice people and good food too.

[caligirlz]

and here's a video to show you just how hateful they can be...

watch how this poor gal held her fire as this guy berates her..

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/02/Chick-Fil-A-Drive-Thru-Bully-Fired

what a class A jerk!

[mac_convert]

I was glad to read his company let him go. The girl held such a dignified front.

The liberal news has made a big deal about a quote Cathy made to a Christian reporter. I side with Cathy's view and don't believe marriage should be redefined. I believe homosexuality is a sin, but those who may or may not live the life style may not view it in my terms. I think all couples should be provided the same benefits, but let's leave the definition of marriage alone!

what a class A jerk!

[tsukiji]

That guy just makes people in general look bad.

He was right to be fired. Even if it's on his personal time, it reflects badly on the company to have a CFO behave in this manner. Immature, inappropriate, misdirected, childish and meaningless. One should demand more of a CFO.

[supermom]

I wonder if he will sue the company for firing him? He was on break, and didn't appear to be in a uniform. I think free speech rights can be challenged for employment?

[ducky]

I wonder if he will sue the company for firing him? He was on break, and didn't appear to be in a uniform. I think free speech rights can be challenged for employment?

Do CFO's have a uniform? I mean, other than a suit maybe.
I don't know, supermom. I think one of the CFO's responsibilities is managing a company's financial risks.
Because of the controversy, I think a case could be made that he put his company at serious financial risk being a sanctimonious jerk.

[nomad]

I wonder if he will sue the company for firing him? He was on break, and didn't appear to be in a uniform. I think free speech rights can be challenged for employment?

CFO's of companies don't usually wear a uniform and don't take breaks since he is (was) a salaried employee.

Let's say you own a company and this gumball was out taping himself getting a free water and the verbally assaulting an innocent woman just doing her job. Would you think he represents your business in a manner your customers would find acceptable? And he is (was) the CFO. CFO, a position of high integrity and respect. So he's out there doing this and putting it on You Tube for all to see until he realizes he might have had too big of an ego and made a mistake. OOPS! Too late, everyone has a copy now. Not such a tough guy anymore now is he. This is called a career limiting move and he executed it perfectly.

Companies have rules and guidelines about behavior outside of the work place because a jerk like this puts the company in a bad light even if he was on a "break." Sorry, can't sue for being a jerk and the company firing you.

Apparently this guy was also a prof at the University Of Arizona too, but not currently. This guy, teaching kids. What an example. But what can you expect from the liberal spewage from academia these days. Just pitiful.

[The Average Joe]

He was fired. Most states require no cause for firing someone. A strong case could be made that he put the company at risk of losses. And don't forget, many people are fired for social media postings in their off time.

The following is a statement from Vante:

Vante regrets the unfortunate events that transpired yesterday in Tucson between our former CFO/Treasurer Adam Smith and an employee at Chick-fil-A. Effective immediately, Mr. Smith is no longer an employee of our company.

The actions of Mr. Smith do not reflect our corporate values in any manner. Vante is an equal opportunity company with a diverse workforce, which holds diverse opinions. We respect the right of our employees and all Americans to hold and express their personal opinions, however, we also expect our company officers to behave in a manner commensurate with their position and in a respectful fashion that conveys these values of civility with others.

We hope that the general population does not hold Mr. Smith's actions against Vante and its employees.

[supermom]

It sickens me the company feels they need to go that far to protect their own interests. Especially the public announcement. The guy is on a break. He is not in a uniform, or company car, and did not announce whom his employer is. In no way is he representing the company. This is a violation of free speech and expression. A major labor law complaint.

I'm not saying the guys actions were not despicable but he did not beak any laws, or represent the company in his actions. This should have been handled differently.

For that reason alone, I think he Should sue. Not because his beliefs. But because the company should not be able to fire him for havng beliefs and verbalizing them when he is not actively on the clock.

And I do believe that if the company policy allows someone to leave the work premises while on a break, they should not be punished for free speech rights. No matter how differently the company feels about it.

This was not a hate crime, or a sexual misconduct, or an alcohol related driving caught on video...etc, etc. It was just a rant. And frankly the guy behaved like he was overdue a dose of zoloft or something...

[Rich_T]

For that reason alone, I think he Should sue. Not because his beliefs. But because the company should not be able to fire him for havng beliefs and verbalizing them when he is not actively on the clock.

And I do believe that if the company policy allows someone to leave the work premises while on a break, they should not be punished for free speech rights. No matter how differently the company feels about it.

He wasn't fired for expressing his opinion. He was fired for bad behavior unbecoming of a company officer, that reflects poorly on the company. And the company has every right to do that. The former CEO of my company was similarly fired for bad behavior (nothing to do with gay marriage or free speech in general, and it was nothing illegal). The incident also shows bad judgment, and that's a big turn-off to any company.

You seem very sue-happy, based on this and the swim team thing. I don't know whether that is scary or just plain frustrating.