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[Priscilla]

M&P15, Remington 870 and two Glock 22's

Without looking tell me which is considered an assault rifle.

Also, from what I remember he had ILLEGAL high cap. magazines.

He used a AR-15 assault rifle (50 shots a minute)....pleae explain (since im not educated on the matter) why ANY civilian would need a weapon such as the one used in Aurora

[supermom]

Yes - the mother was stupid. She should have taken responsibility for the situation she was in. I take these unconfirmed media reports with a grain of salt, but the news reported Adam and his mother had been fighting. They have also reported that the mother and father had discussions on how to take care of Adam. Friends report that the mother used guns to try to teach responsibility to Adam AND he was a troubled child. Now that's a great combination. You know how I learned responsibility? I got a job. Did Adam have one? I don't know. Was he able to hold one? I doubt it.

Aspergers not associated with violence? I'm not so sure about this. I know a child with Aspergers how has problems controlling his anger to the point I try to keep my children away from him for their safety.

This is different for everyone, but my mom told me "as long as you live under my roof you live by my rules."


The mother had guns in a home where a person with mental issues who had violent tendencies lived. Is she to blame? Yes! When my first child started walking I got rid of my guns. Why? Because I take responsibility for my actions.

Sorry- your "friends" article is full of bs. completely biased.

Have you ever babysat a child with any type of autism?

You definitely have to keep them in your line of sight, constantly. (in case you feel like asking me, the answer is yes, I have).

As for autism kids.... you better believe they have entire blocks of time that they are introverted. and different kids with aspbergers have different response to stimuli that appear violent but are actually body jerks. Not violence. And that misconception often scares the crud out of ignorant people. different asbergers kids also have other problems, as well.. These problems are not consistent. They are not by the book.

Sometimes, these kids can have aspbergers and then have other mental conditions that are untreated because the doctors just cant communicate to the patient well enough to treat it.

If you have never been normal how can you tell a doctor what is wrong?

And since a kid who babysat this guy at 10 years old never knew him as a young man when most psychotic personality disorders present themselves, then how can you possibly take this article for anything other than a piece of crud inflammatory sensationalism? We dont have that kids mental diagnosis in front of us. Let's try to keep that in mind before trying to blame mommy.

There is no way to control certain types of psychotic breaks when they happen. And it doesnt necessarily mean there is going to be any forewarning of a change in his normal behavior or personality.

This guy could have been a typical "genius" level kid with the zero ability to socially interact who was moved around different schools because they didnt have a school that had a section that dedicates itself to autism array disorders (like Folsom schools do).

In other words, you really dont know if his behavior was normal or not- prior to this mental break. Anything could have happened. We need more info.

[chris v]

He used a AR-15 assault rifle (50 shots a minute)....pleae explain (since im not educated on the matter) why ANY civilian would need a weapon such as the one used in Aurora

Again. Illegal magazine. If I had a high capacity mag for my handgun I could potentially fire the same amount. Sooooo... Where are you going with this?

[Priscilla]

Again. Illegal magazine. If I had a high capacity mag for my handgun I could potentially fire the same amount. Sooooo... Where are you going with this?

Im trying to understand why a civilian would need an assault rifle? Simple question. CAN SOMEONE ANSWER

[camay2327]

No one needs an assult rifle, no one.

[supermom]

Im trying to understand why a civilian would need an assault rifle? Simple question. CAN SOMEONE ANSWER

Yes, firing practice. period. you can never know how to do it if you never do it. And you dont have to have former army training to be a great shooter ready and prepared to become a patriot when your country is invaded

[Priscilla]

Yes, firing practice. period. you can never know how to do it if you never do it. And you dont have to have former army training to be a great shooter ready and prepared to become a patriot when your country is invaded

Are you effing kiding me? Are you willing to tell that to the parents of the 20 kids that are dead

[chris v]

Are you effing kiding me? Are you willing to tell that to the parents of the 20 kids that are dead

Sorry you're to blinded by your emotions. Bottom line, the mom of the shooter and the shooter is the one who is responsible. Not the gun.

[Priscilla]

Sorry you're to blinded by your emotions. Bottom line, the mom of the shooter and the shooter is the one who is responsible. Not the gun.

Im not blinded pal....why wont you answer my question Chris V? Why would you or I need to own an assault rifle?

[chris v]

Im not blinded pal....why cany you answer my question Chris V? Why would you or I need to own an assault rifle?

Why shouldn't we? Just because you are against them why can't I have mine. They are fun to shoot, some hunting rifles are classified as assault rifles. There are plenty of laws and regulations put into effect that make these guns very safe. They are legal and if used legally they are no more deadly than any other gun. Now you tell me why I can't have them. And, no, this shooting or any other is not a valid excuse.

[Priscilla]

Why shouldn't we? Just because you are against them why can't I have mine. They are fun to shoot, some hunting rifles are classified as assault rifles. There are plenty of laws and regulations put into effect that make these guns very safe. They are legal and if used legally they are no more deadly than any other gun. Now you tell me why I can't have them. And, no, this shooting or any other is not a valid excuse.

Im speechless. The fact that you used the word "fun" a few days after this massacre makes me physically ill. Im all for having the right to bear arms but the 2nd amend needs to be tweked. There is no reason to own an assult weapon. Goodbye sweet america

[chris v]

Im speechless. The fact that you used the word "fun" a few days after this massacre makes me physically ill. Im all for having the right to bear arms but the 2nd amend needs to be tweked. There is no reason to own an assult weapon. Goodbye sweet america

I didn't say they are fun to shoot at kids. Get a grip. I dont understand why i cant say they are fub to shoot. I get that you don't like this, but now answer my question.

[Priscilla]

I didn't say they are fun to shoot at kids. Get a grip. I dont understand why i cant say they are fub to shoot. I get that you don't like this, but now answer my question.

But kids are being shot with these rifles-thats my point. So you have fun shooting your assault rifle, no one is stopping you...just like no one is stopping the massacre killings

[2kids4me]

Ugh. Do people honestly believe eliminating guns will solve this problem? Maybe that is part of the problem. People in denial, short-sighted, and looking to blame an inanimate object for someone's behavior. I wish this problem could be solved as simply as gun control. Sigh.

[chris v]

But kids are being shot with these rifles-thats my point. So you have fun shooting your assault rifle, no one is stopping you...just like no one is stopping the massacre killings

A kid in EDH was killed by a pellet gun last year, do we outlaw those too? It's just funny to me because you have no idea what you are talking about yet you want to ban assault rifles. Foolish.

In reality, assault rifle is a misnomer as it connects an action with a weapon. Any assault involving a rifle by definition means one is using an assault rifle. The M-1 Garrand rifle was a semi-automatic rifle used by American infantry throuought World War II for example. They certainly made assaults with this rifle. The same is true for the British Lee-Enfield 303 and Mauser bolt action rifles of the Commonwealth and German armies, respectively.One needs to understand that the term assault rifle has different meanings depending on the context, particularly in the US. The term "assault rifle" likely originated with the German Army which fielded a fully automatic rifle in World War II named the Sturmgewehr. Translated, this means literally "storm gun" or "storm rifle"; storm here being used as in storming the enemy. However, no other army has ever used the term "assault rifle" to describe weapons used by soldiers. The US Army and Marine Corps for example have always referred to rifles, including the fully-automatic M-16 and M4, as simply "rifles" or "weapons". Size of bullet doesn't define "assault rifle" either. The M-16 and M4 indeed fire a relatively small bullet, the 5.56 mmX45mm NATO round which weighs just 62 grains, although the cartridge is fairly large. On the other hand, the most widely produced fully automatic rifle in the world, the Kalashnikov AK-47, fires a bullet weighing 123 grains. Really, "assault rifle" is a term used principally in the US and outside the military to define just about any type of rifle that is semi- or fully-automatic. Those new to the US should understand that the term is generally used by the media and anti-gun advocates. And, again, beyond this there is no weapon or ballistically defined "assault rifle."