
Folsom High Paints Football Field Blue
#121
Posted 12 August 2013 - 05:55 PM
#122
Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:20 PM

#123
Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:36 AM
Kimberly Purcell
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#124
Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:55 AM
I'm just thankful our colors aren't orange & black.
#125
Posted 14 August 2013 - 12:16 PM
There are no words for how awful that looks. JMHO.
It just looks so gimmicky.
#126
Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:40 AM
Looks terrible in the aerial shot. I also wonder if the blue color will fade faster than green. Overall, a silly, expensive decision by those involved. But hey, it's not their money...
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#127
Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:54 AM
Wow. That is hideous.
Frankly, I don't care where the money came from, it should be considered income to be used for any needs in the schools. My kid just started Kindergarten. It's the first time I get to experience this joke of a public school system myself. The teachers can't even print things out because they are given one ink cartridge to last the year. They only get $150 for supplies for the entire year. The district just expects parents to cover the rest.
The effing taxes I already paid are supposed to cover the rest.
And how much was spent on this field? *sigh*
#128
Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:07 AM
I know I'll be remembering this when they want me to vote for a bond measure.
#129
(Cheesesteak)
Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:41 AM
I hear quite a few people saying that this was paid for, at least in part, with "booster" money. From what I've seen and read, that's not true. The Telegraph reports that the $700,000 was "funded by cellular tower revenue."
#130
Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:15 AM
Here's a new aerial shot of the field. Note the soccer field lines.
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It reminds me of bubblegum for some reason.
#131
Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:15 PM
#132
(Cheesesteak)
Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:38 PM
The take I get from all of the wasteful spending comments is that we shouldn't have a football field. These turfs wear out eventually, and need to be replaced, if not now eventually. The expected lifespan was up. The blue color did not cost any more than green would have, at least based on one supplier website. Grass fields arguably cost more over the long run with watering and maintenance than synthetic fields. Every new high school that puts in a new football/ soccer field seems to be going the direction of synthetic. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Note: I am not a Bulldog parent or in any way affiliated with the school or program. My kid plays soccer. I'm just being devil's advocate here.
No - I'm not saying that. You do bring up a good point, though. I thought that 10 years seemed "short" for a full turf replacement - and, having recently been on the field at Folsom - didn't think the turf was bad. So - I looked around a bit and saw that artificial turf fields have a lifespan of about 10 years.
Now - I'm really not that good at math anymore - but, with the skills I still posses - that's about $70,000 per year for a turf field (using the replacement cost for this field). That, of course, excludes any other maintenance that's required for a turf field. So - I looked at that too. As it turns out - artificial turf fields actually require quite a bit of maintenance - and it can be very expensive.
I found this interesting, from the University of Arkansas Division of Agriculture - comparing natural versus artificial grasses for sport fields: http://turf.uark.edu...ves/021109.html
Of note - they did an annual cost comparison . .
Long-term costs
Long-term costs are less with natural turf fields compared to synthetic turf fields. Artificial fields need replacing every 8-10 years, whereas a natural turf field does not need as frequent renovation and can be renovated at a much reduced price compared to an artificial field. In a 16-year scenario, Fresenburg came up with an annual average cost for each field type as follows: the natural soil-based field, $33,522; the sand-cap grass field, $49,318; the basic synthetic field, $65,846; and the premium synthetic field, $109,013
One thing's for sure, though, you need artificial turf if you want the color to be smurf blue.
Another thing is the heat. For any of you with kids in any sports program - the heat on these artifical turf fields is often 40-60 degrees hotter than abient temperatures. See, e.g. http://aces.nmsu.edu/programs/turf/documents/brigham-young-study.pdf Many artifical turf fields now have irrigation systems installed in order to maintain a safe (cool) surface temperature. Apparently - once the surface temp reaches a certain point - skin contact can cause skin damage (above 120 degrees I beleive). So - now we're watering artifical turf . . .
Sure - natural turf has disadvantages - you can't really play when it's raining or really wet (tear up the turf) - you need to water and mow and fertiize. I'm only trying to point out that artifical turf fields are "cost free" like many would have you beleive.
Your mileage may vary . . .
#133
Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:57 PM
The take I get from all of the wasteful spending comments is that we shouldn't have a football field. These turfs wear out eventually, and need to be replaced, if not now eventually. The expected lifespan was up. The blue color did not cost any more than green would have, at least based on one supplier website. Grass fields arguably cost more over the long run with watering and maintenance than synthetic fields. Every new high school that puts in a new football/ soccer field seems to be going the direction of synthetic. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Note: I am not a Bulldog parent or in any way affiliated with the school or program. My kid plays soccer. I'm just being devil's advocate here.
I'm certainly not saying we shouldn't have a football field. I have no basis to say it wasn't time to replace the synthetic turf. I haven't seen any official confirmation that the blue turf did NOT cost more than green turf. I also haven't seen any numbers for the special underlayment that was used or if it was any different than what Cordova's field got. I know school board members have read this and you would think if that weren't true they'd quickly correct the misconception. The numbers used in The Folsom Telegraph article don't match up with what was budgeted.
The special CUSHdrain used at FHS is supposed to drain more quickly and prevent injury. I suppose the drainage issue would be important if Folsom had one. I don't remember there being any problem with the old turf in that respect. I wouldn't have a problem with a turf underlayment that is supposed to prevent injuries such as concussions, especially since it is supposed to be a multipurpose field for things such as soccer where they don't wear helmets, but if that can't be proven scientifically then the school paid extra for a gimmick.
It keeps being said that the money from the cell tower rental was earmarked for this purpose, but was that a law or a choice? If they can make an exception to borrow from the cell tower fund to fill a budget gap, they could certainly use excess to go to other school district needs.
#134
Posted 15 August 2013 - 01:41 PM
Once money is earmarked, it WILL get spent on that thing. The way I read the original article, the blue color was a luxury, and the logical conclusion is that having a blue field comes at the expense of funding other things such as teacher supplies, the cost of which is instead externalized to parents who already pay taxes on property and on bonds. There may be hard-to-quantify benefits of having blue turf ("pride"?), but it remains a fair question whether those presumed benefits outweigh the real financial cost.
#135
(Cheesesteak)
Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:00 PM
Well my daughter who is on the soccer team found out they may not be able to use the field now! Rules say they have to play on green. If they can't get a waiver---her team is NOT happy that they weren't considered in the decision. Hopefully they will be able to get the waiver, guess we'll find out with boys soccer because it is first.
I looked at the CIF rules and National HS Rules and can't find anything that mandates a "green" field. The only rules for the fields are dimensions (size) and slope.
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